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ZS Jerry can

Post by Sicone » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:29 pm

Hey so I just did a Nato Jerry can restoration to carry a couple of gallons of gas. After I was done I though it would look nice with a ZS logo (hope this is not a major copyright infringment as its gonna sitp in the back of my car hidden from now on)
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Re: ZS Jerry can

Post by Gun_Nut_2k1 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:33 pm

Gas cans are required to be in a red, Diesel Yellow. You need to ask the Board for permission to use any copyrighted logo. If they don't defend their ownership then anyone could just use it at will. Or so they say. I love the can. It looks freaking cool. I would send them an email just to be safe.
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Re: ZS Jerry can

Post by Ufdyixcaff » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:14 am

Actually, the can just needs to identify its contents. Color coding is only one way of doing that.

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Re: ZS Jerry can

Post by Crimson Phoenix » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:52 am

In the sense of military usage, the style of handle and closure were the easiest identifiers. Olive-drab.com has a number of articles on the matter. However, I'm thinking a color-coded strip encircling the fuel can would be in order if you have multiple types of fuel to be stored. Otherwise I figure so long as you know which is fuel and which is water, that's what's important. I'm personally considering picking up a few 2.5 and 5 gal plastic jerry cans for water in the near future, as opposed to for fuel.

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Post by maldon007 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:41 am

I think if you sell the can at some point, and represent it as a ZS can, you could be liable for... something. But having it sit in your car, with a ZS logo, doesnt seem much different than the Disney World cut-out my wife made for her scrap book. Fair use maybe? Anyway, if your not using it "commercially" somehow, you only need to ask if you want to be courteous.

Then again, legal advice from internets = :(

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Post by Sckitzo » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:47 am

I thought the logo was fine for projects like this, meaning personal things for fun with no intention of selling or what not.

I may be completely off so I would shoot em a email and double check. Looks good though man :D

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Post by dukman » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:53 am

Suizen wrote:Actually, the can just needs to identify its contents. Color coding is only one way of doing that.
I think that depends on the laws of your state or even city. Some do require gasoline cans to be red.
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Post by Silent Kube » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:52 am

Other than being a poster on the forum, I have no official affiliation with ZS so take this with a grain of salt or two, but this doesn't seem too much different than slapping a ZS sticker on it. I'd remove it if you were to sell it though.
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Re: ZS Jerry can

Post by SwampRat » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:06 am

As far as color coding goes. Say I have a truck, just for instance. Would it be a good idea to put a big red can in the bed marked gas? Meh, probably not. Hell I'd paint it blue and stencil Potable Water on it. As long as it's your can, and your the only one to use it, who cares. Gotta keep the crooks guessing.

Good job on the can. I have been actually wanting to put one of these in my truck for a while, but I have to figure a way to lock them down first. No one has any respect for what's in the bed of a truck around here any more. I've had reese hitches, gas cans, lug nut covers :roll: and a loggin chain go missing while I was grabbing groceries. So make sure like you said, that thing is hidden.
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Post by Silent Kube » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:21 am

SwampRat wrote:Hell I'd paint it blue and stencil Potable Water on it. As long as it's your can, and your the only one to use it, who cares.
Until someone grabs it to try to put out a fire. :lol:

Also, blue is the color code for kerosene.
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Post by Gun_Nut_2k1 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:36 am

I have been wrong before. I know if you look at it from a safety stand point it is pretty negligent to not identify something as potentially dangerous as gasoline. That said I am on the fence now as to the "acceptable" use of the logo. It does seam that one could just slap a ZS sticker on whatever he might want to. It does not mean you are stealing intellectual property. It is also not like you are trying to make money on it. I guess I am vacillating on whether this is ok or not. Hmm. I just don't know. What I do know is it looks freaking bad ass and I want one. :mrgreen:
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Post by HurricaneDad » Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:13 am

Kube wrote:Also, blue is the color code for kerosene.
Ok, smart guy, what's the color code for potable water?


(actually, I don't know and want to change that)
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Re: ZS Jerry can

Post by Dogan » Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:39 am

Denevell wrote:
Kube wrote:Also, blue is the color code for kerosene.
Ok, smart guy, what's the color code for potable water?


(actually, I don't know and want to change that)
Tan is non potable, but IDK what potable is. I don't know if there IS a color, as it would be sensical to keep jerry cans for everything else and blivets, canteens for water .
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Post by KentsOkay » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:00 am

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Re: ZS Jerry can

Post by SwampRat » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:51 pm

quackfiend wrote:
Denevell wrote:
Kube wrote:Also, blue is the color code for kerosene.
Ok, smart guy, what's the color code for potable water?


(actually, I don't know and want to change that)
Tan is non potable, but IDK what potable is. I don't know if there IS a color, as it would be sensical to keep jerry cans for everything else and blivets, canteens for water .
Actually, Blue is the color code for potable water. Every one tends to have different color codes but in the maritime industry Blue is used to color potable water lines and holding tanks. This standard is also used in water treatment facilities. Also, ever buy a big 7 gallon water jug from wal-mart, they are blue as well. And the water jugs you get for office style water coolers are also blue. We don't have a color code for kerosene in the maritime industry though, because it's not something we use. I'm not arguing about the kerosene color code though, it is blue for sure. However in some occurrences it is also kept in white jugs, but that's an older code. There is also some debate that light blue should be for water and dark blue for kerosene, however in the maritime and in water treatment facilities we use dark blue for water. Some other codes are, red for gas, and interestingly enough red for fire mains, yellow for diesel, orange for lube oil, brown for hydraulic fluids, green for salt water, white for compressed air (or in some rare occurrences kerosene). Also another interesting tid bit is that "hydro" is not short fancy speak for water as in hydration but Hydro as in Hydraulic Fluid, had a guy make that mistake once.
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Also I just want to clarify that I was not suggesting the use of jerry fuel cans for water storage. The storage of water in any thing that had been designed for or previously used for fuel would be foolish and possibly dangerous.
I understand it would be careless and also possibly dangerous to label a gas can as a water can. I merely meant the suggestion as a way to camouflage your valuable fuel from getting stolen.


To the OP I am sorry to have side tracked your thread. Like I said before good job on the can, I hope ZS doesn't have an issue with the usage of logo. Because if they do then I guess I will have to tell them about the tattoo I got on me nether regions one drunken night a few months ago.
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Re: ZS Jerry can

Post by Dogan » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:57 pm

SwampRat wrote:Because if they do then I guess I will have to tell them about the tattoo I got on me nether regions one drunken night a few months ago.
Major derail: Seriously?

OP: If ZS wants, you may want to talk with them about sellin these, as a franchise/publicity sort of dealio. And nice job. I want one.
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quackfiend wrote:
SwampRat wrote:Because if they do then I guess I will have to tell them about the tattoo I got on me nether regions one drunken night a few months ago.
Major derail: Seriously?

OP: If ZS wants, you may want to talk with them about sellin these, as a franchise/publicity sort of dealio. And nice job. I want one.
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Re: ZS Jerry can

Post by Sicone » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:21 pm

I sent an email to trademark@zombiehunters.org so I'm waiting to hear something

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Post by oldsoldier » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:23 pm

If tan is for non potable water, I drank a shitload of that when in the Army....that was the color of the water jugs we had.
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Re: ZS Jerry can

Post by Clout » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:32 pm

My $.02 on the logo...

How is that different from me sketching a Patriots logo on the side of my cooler? Or my brother-in-law who has a Red Sox tattoo on his calf? Both are trademarks, but I'm sure the holder of each trademark would be enthused that we took the time to promote their image/ brand.

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Post by Dogan » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:40 pm

oldsoldier wrote:If tan is for non potable water, I drank a shitload of that when in the Army....that was the color of the water jugs we had.
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Post by m ellis allen » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:28 pm

Gun_Nut_2k1 wrote: That said I am on the fence now as to the "acceptable" use of the logo. It does seam that one could just slap a ZS sticker on whatever he might want to. It does not mean you are stealing intellectual property.:
the only difference i see between a sticker and someone painting the logo is that the sticker was paid for.

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