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Re: UK Swine Flu Thread

Post by sheddi » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:37 pm

andygates wrote:Don't you bloody start as well. I'm losing my sense of humour over all this FUD. :roll:

I've had it confirmed that you can have both jabs at the same time.
Chill Andy, K9's just ragging you. I'm sure you'll be fine.

Then you can laugh at the rest of us from your server room as we all post how we're feeling like death warmed up :lol: :lol:
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Re: UK Swine Flu Thread

Post by andygates » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:27 pm

Update, and it's all over the beeb, swine flu vaccinations have started. The first ones go to very vulnerable patients and their care staff; shortly GPs will be contacting the 'at risk' folks on their lists. That means the same people who normally get offered seasonal flu jabs - the young, old, pregnant, wheezy - we've gone over the list before.

If you're not registered with a GP and you're in one of those groups, now's a good time to get around to it.
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Re: UK Swine Flu Thread

Post by andygates » Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:01 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8321202.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The number of new cases reported in England over the past week has nearly doubled to 53,000. In Scotland, there was a slight rise to 14,650.

It comes as more and more people are being admitted into intensive care and the number of deaths hit 128 in the UK.

Ian Dalton, head of flu planning at the NHS, said if the rises continued critical care would be expanded.

Plans have been drawn up over the last few months to double the number of intensive care beds to over 4,000.

And with the UK well into the second peak, concerns are being raised about the sustained pressure that will be put on the health service.

Mr Dalton said: "If current trends continue we are going to have to surge capacity. My message now is that the NHS must be ready."

In England, there are 99 people in critical care beds - the highest since the pandemic began.

But it is the rate of admission to these specialist beds which is causing particular concern.

During the summer, about 1 in 10 patients in hospital with swine flu ended up in critical care, compared with one in five now.

Sir Liam Donaldson, the government's chief medical officer, said the pattern emerging on intensive care wards was "mystifying".

There are no signs the flu strain has mutated to become more deadly - indeed the latest worst-case scenario for total deaths over the winter has been reduced from 19,000 to 1,000.

But Sir Liam said: "What we are starting to worry about is the sustained pressure over the winter.

"The NHS has never before had a run from mid July to March and April with intensive infectious disease like this."

Latest estimates suggest there could be another 35,000 admissions in the coming months - more than 5,000 of which could require intensive care support.

Sir Liam also said while the 1,000 death-toll was low even compared to the normal number of deaths from seasonal flu, which normally stands at about 6,000 to 8.000, the tragedy was that the victims of swine flu were often young.
As we know, a doubling is a clear sign of free, exponential infection in a generous pool of targets.

Good to see the death estimates being run down. But note that this is already a historic run of disease - certainly not nothing.
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Re: UK Swine Flu Thread

Post by sheddi » Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:05 am

According to the BBC, vaccine should be arriving with local GPs this week.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8325363.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
BBC wrote:GPs to receive swine flu vaccines

Swine flu vaccines are starting to arrive at GP surgeries so that 12m "priority" patients can be immunised. The supplies will allow UK family doctors to start offering the jab to people with health problems or damaged immune systems and pregnant women.

Vaccinations began last week for seriously ill hospital patients and the health staff caring for them.

Meanwhile an advertising campaign about how easily the H1N1 virus can spread has been launched in newspapers. Under the slogan Catch It, Kill It, Bin It, it shows a father travelling home from work, sneezing and spreading germs as he goes.
More at the link.

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Re: UK Swine Flu Thread

Post by sheddi » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:59 am

I've posted a BBC article about some issues with vaccination in Germany, over in the main thread:
http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopi ... 2#p1124692" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here in the UK, vax seem fairly uncontroversial, unless I've missed something?
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Re: UK Swine Flu Thread

Post by sheddi » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:25 pm

The UK swine flu case rate continues to rise as the vaccination programme is rolled out.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8331719.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
BBC wrote:'Further rise' in swine flu cases

There has been a further rise in swine flu infections, latest figures show. The number of new cases in England has increased from 53,000 last week to 78,000. In Scotland, it went up by more than 5,000 to nearly 20,000. The numbers are still short of the peak seen in the summer, but there are signs patients are becoming sicker with hospitals under more pressure.

Meanwhile, the death toll has reached 137 across the UK - up nine from last week's total.

It comes as the vaccination programme has just got under way. Over the next two months nearly 14m of the most vulnerable people, including those with health problems and pregnant women, will be getting the jab. But even with the roll out of the immunisation programme the NHS has still be told to brace itself for surge in cases over the winter.

As many as 12% of the population are predicted to get the virus in the coming months - although for children it could be as high as one in three. Sir Liam Donaldson, the government's chief medical officer, said hospitals were being tested the most at the moment.

There has been growing demand on critical care beds in recent weeks with over 150 patients on intensive care wards in England alone. That represents one in five of the patients who end up in hospital - double the rate being registered in the initial months of the pandemic.

Sir Liam added: "The rise is sticking with the slow-burn scenario we have been seeing, but there could be a sustained pressure on the NHS this winter."
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Re: UK Swine Flu Thread

Post by sheddi » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:32 pm

The latest from the BBC's swine flu blogger covers the worrying increase in swine-flu-linked intensive care cases.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters ... _care.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
BBC wrote:It is curious that although the overall number of H1N1 swine flu cases has been fairly static over the past week, intensive care units continue to come under increasing pressure. The Chief Medical Officer for England, Sir Liam Donaldson, gave his weekly update to journalists via video link from Washington, where he's attending health meetings.

Sir Liam said: "there has been a snowballing of cases in intensive care units in recent weeks which is giving us real concern". He stressed that there was no evidence that the H1N1 virus was mutating. "It is unexplained," he said, adding that he'd met the chief medical officer for New Zealand in recent days who had pointed out that his country had seen a similar phenomenon over their winter. Half-way through their recent flu season there had been a fall in the severity of most cases in the community but an increase in severity in a minority of cases with complications.
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Re: UK Swine Flu Thread

Post by andygates » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:53 pm

It's something everyone is watching closely, that's for sure. :?
sheddi wrote:Here in the UK, vax seem fairly uncontroversial, unless I've missed something?
Nope, vax is uncontroversial. Plenty of people say they can't be bothered to get it, but that's as far as resistance goes. The -ahem- weirdness we see in the USA and the blogosphere doesn't hit here. Free shots on the NHS and a tradition of respecting docs both probably factor into that.
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Re: UK Swine Flu Thread

Post by andygates » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:41 pm

Hey up, we have our first couple of swiney patients staying in the isolation ward.
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Re: UK Swine Flu Thread

Post by sheddi » Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:13 pm

I haz a bug :(

Fatigue, headache, shivering, feel cold but aren't, a vague dizziness.

I'm hoping it's man flu, and will keep you posted on developments.

ETA:
22 hrs later and it's pretty much passed. It's either the wimpiest case of flu ever, or it was just a random passing bug.
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Re: UK Swine Flu Thread

Post by andygates » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:07 pm

My kid bruv and his spawn are going down with it. Elderly Mum is local to him too, so I may do the Chrimbo visit in a respirator. Will keep close tabs (well, Facebook tabs) on 'em.

In fact, I think I'll do the visit in a respirator anyway, just to mess with him. :twisted:
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Post by Morph » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:28 pm

andygates wrote:My kid bruv and his spawn are going down with it. Elderly Mum is local to him too, so I may do the Chrimbo visit in a respirator. Will keep close tabs (well, Facebook tabs) on 'em.

In fact, I think I'll do the visit in a respirator anyway, just to mess with him. :twisted:

Best thing to do it go onto the swine flu website, fill in that you have the symptoms of swine flu and go collect tamiflu from the chemist. the leaflet with it says to prevent infection take 1 tablet a day and a box should last 2 weeks. long enough todo the christmas visits!

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Andy, your a bad bad man, but I like your style :lol:
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Post by andygates » Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:56 am

Blech, Tamiflu's so nasty I'll skip it until/if I get sick. With luck work will be handing out the swine jab soonish. Still need to pop to the Army Surplus for an S10 though...
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Re: UK Swine Flu Thread

Post by sheddi » Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:31 am

A couple of interesting points made in this BBC blog.
The WHO said that the epidemic may have peaked in parts of the northern hemisphere. That seems to be the case in the UK and in the United States, which has had several weeks of falling levels of flu.

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I have picked up via BBC Monitoring that two patients in France, in different hospitals, have died from mutated H1N1 swine flu. ... But, as has been pointed out by me and by many of the wise men and women who post comments here, mutations are what we should expect with flu. Flu is an RNA virus in which genetic replication is pretty poor and which makes lots of mistakes. It's the reason that flu viruses drift and the reason we need a new flu jab every winter. The mutations reported in France have been seen in Norway and in several other countries, and the WHO put out some very clear advice on this recently. The French mutation has been found in two cities, but we need to know a lot more about it before becoming unduly alarmed.

To sum up, mutation and deaths are sadly unavoidable when it comes to H1N1 swine flu. But this pandemic is still reassuringly mild for the vast vast majority of those infected.
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Re: UK Swine Flu Thread

Post by andygates » Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:45 am

It's encouraging news.

We're not letting our guard down until about February ;)
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