Is prepping spreading in your area?

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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by XtraBright » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:23 pm

I never dreamed of "our" topic to hit actual news, but here it is .. and i was baffled by that article in a major paper ! :shock:

Here is the google translation:
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Here is the german source:
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Prepping is not really a european mindset with our social security and the endless faith into the power of the government .. and i end my political statement here according to the forum rules.

So this is a surprise for our area.
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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by Glennbo » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:12 am

There is no prepping in my area, or amongst the people I know as far as I can tell. They're totally complacent. It makes me sick.

Sometimes I start to think that I'm the crazy one for prepping. On an intellectual level I know I'm not. But emotionally I'm surrounded by people who only care about things that are useless for prepping, they seem to be having a lot of fun, and as time goes by it appears as though they are right.

I've invested a lot of money on prepping. And I'm not rich. Sometimes I wish I would have bought a cool gaming or entertainment system instead of BOB supplies that I might never use.
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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by raptor » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:13 pm

Glennbo wrote: I've invested a lot of money on prepping. And I'm not rich. Sometimes I wish I would have bought a cool gaming or entertainment system instead of BOB supplies that I might never use.

Honestly... I hope you (or anyone else) never need your BOB and it stays in your closet gathering dust. :wink:

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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by Vicarious_Lee » Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:08 pm

In the last year-and-a-half I've had countless coworkers come up to me and ask me about prepping. They're generally scared of prepping, and they're definitely scared of not prepping, and they're intimidated by me prepping, and they really just want some reassurance.

Almost all of them think I'm bugging out at the first sign of anything, because almost all of them have said they would be coming to my house if anything happens. The way TV is presenting it just completely overwhelms people, so I start small.

Being a prepper menas never having to say "I'm out!" If nothing bad ever happens, you won't have to run to the grocery store at 10PM for toilet paper, children's ibuprofen, sugar, etc. That's worth it all by itself.
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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by WhoShotJR » Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:18 pm

Vicarious_Lee wrote:Being a prepper menas never having to say "I'm out!" If nothing bad ever happens, you won't have to run to the grocery store at 10PM for toilet paper, children's ibuprofen, sugar, etc. That's worth it all by itself.

Not only that, but it gives one the flexibility to buy items when they're on sale. It's more convenient and cheaper.

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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by KnightoftheRoc » Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:38 am

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Glennbo wrote: I've invested a lot of money on prepping. And I'm not rich. Sometimes I wish I would have bought a cool gaming or entertainment system instead of BOB supplies that I might never use.

Honestly... I hope you (or anyone else) never need your BOB and it stays in your closet gathering dust. :wink:
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As, I hope, mine does. However, prepping has allowed me to actually SAVE money, so the game system, or some other "goodies", becomes a bit more possible, within the confines of my budget. I'm managing to prep on a minimum wage job, a disability income, and food stamps (not all mine, this is a total). Buying food in bulk, case quantities, or while the sales are on allows me to use the food stamps to maximum benefit. This frees up the limited cash for other things, like the rent, utilities, or the things we all use that FS don't cover, like toilet paper.

There are preps others are focusing on that I don't, like firearms- I did my buying there a long time ago, and I'm pretty comfortable with what I have, and what it can do for me. But, if I found a sale on ammo in a caliber I use, with the savings mentioned above, I could probably scrape together the cash for an extra box or two to add to the stack.

I think an overlooked asset to the prepping mindset is that you eventually meet others sharing the same interests. Networking with those people, like we do on ZS, can lead to barter arrangements pre-PAW, where everyone involved benefits, and associations are made that can be a huge asset in the PAW. Trading a few of your baby bunnies for some other guy's chicks can allow you both to expand your food production abilities, for example. Now, you can both have rabbit OR chicken, instead of eating the same meat at every meal. It's nice to have the eggs, too.
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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by Stercutus » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:30 am

If you really want the ultra cool gaming system you wish you had bought five years ago look in Craigs list or the flea market. Five year old gaming systems and games go for 10-20% of new ones. And they were the latest and greatest thing 5 years ago. Right after Christmas is the best time.

I don't play games on gaming systems myself but the kids do. We have never bought a new gaming system and they have never known the difference.
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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by Silent Kube » Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:38 am

They've been playing a commercial here lately in which a couple is out in their yard barbecuing etc. as a tornado looms in the distance. They are just carrying on with their lives as normal. The point of the commercial is that if you're ready for an emergency then you don't have to panic when it arrives. I've used it to help explain my outlook on life to family members that think I'm crazy.
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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by Maast » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:46 pm

Silent Kube wrote:They've been playing a commercial here lately in which a couple is out in their yard barbecuing etc. as a tornado looms in the distance. They are just carrying on with their lives as normal. The point of the commercial is that if you're ready for an emergency then you don't have to panic when it arrives. I've used it to help explain my outlook on life to family members that think I'm crazy.
You know, its funny, I've been seeing a lot of "be prepared" type commercials too. I can't remember there ever being commercials like this before, other than the "duck and cover" commericals from the 50s (which was 15 years before my time).

I wonder if they know something I dont....

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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by stressrelief 28.5 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:48 am

ZombieGranny wrote:With the price of food lately, it seems I'm always answering questions about canning, gardening, or chickens.

Had a discussion just the other day with a man in the meat section of the grocery store, about skinning chickens instead of plucking them. Sent him in search of the WhizBang chicken plucker plans on the internet. Also included was the problem of family members not liking to eat animals when they knew their names.
I saw a man killing chickens a little while back. He was skinning them and taking out the breast and legs only..I thought it was a waste of resources, my Grandmother would have put a knot on his head. LMBO I also have family members who think I should be locked up for the protection of the general public.I have almost quit trying to tell anyone they need to prep. About the only time I say anything now is if I am asked .I had a few people show up at my house a couple of months back, that werent invited. They saw me at the barn and just came walking up. I was just about to break another rabbits neck, when they explained they were there to save my soul.I told them as I broke the rabbits neck I could do two things at once and for them to go right ahead.As I turned to look at them they were heading back to their car.I expected to get a visit from PETA for a while after that.If anyone is intrested those fried rabbits were very good.

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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by Frank » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:00 am

Glennbo wrote:There is no prepping in my area, or amongst the people I know as far as I can tell. They're totally complacent. It makes me sick.

Sometimes I start to think that I'm the crazy one for prepping. On an intellectual level I know I'm not. But emotionally I'm surrounded by people who only care about things that are useless for prepping, they seem to be having a lot of fun, and as time goes by it appears as though they are right.

I've invested a lot of money on prepping. And I'm not rich. Sometimes I wish I would have bought a cool gaming or entertainment system instead of BOB supplies that I might never use.
i feel you on this one...i'd like to think i walk a line between a prepper, and one of those people who don't care. I know better, have a more alert mindset, and a shit-ton of supplies..but i still do things i "shouldn't", still have fun, still spend money on things i don't absolutely need.
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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by Stercutus » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:10 am

i feel you on this one...i'd like to think i walk a line between a prepper, and one of those people who don't care. I know better, have a more alert mindset, and a shit-ton of supplies..but i still do things i "shouldn't", still have fun, still spend money on things i don't absolutely need.
I am not sure I understand this mindset. You should have fun and spend your money as best you see fit. Otherwise what is the point? If you really have to have that Dale Earnhardt commemorative cowboy hat go get it and next month buy the extra month of rice and beans you think you need.
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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by Frank » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:01 am

Blacksmith wrote:
i feel you on this one...i'd like to think i walk a line between a prepper, and one of those people who don't care. I know better, have a more alert mindset, and a shit-ton of supplies..but i still do things i "shouldn't", still have fun, still spend money on things i don't absolutely need.
I am not sure I understand this mindset. You should have fun and spend your money as best you see fit. Otherwise what is the point? If you really have to have that Dale Earnhardt commemorative cowboy hat go get it and next month buy the extra month of rice and beans you think you need.
im just saying..it doesn't have to be one or the other. from what i read thats maybe how he/she's feeling
(i dunno though. i've been up for 2 days, im having trouble with comprehension)
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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by Silent Kube » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:02 am

I'm totally with you Frank. What's the point of surviving if you're not living?
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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by Frank » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:18 am

Silent Kube wrote:I'm totally with you Frank. What's the point of surviving if you're not living?
exactly kube 8)... i have a strange mindset..hard to explain...
Blacksmith wrote: If you really have to have that Dale Earnhardt commemorative cowboy hat.
but i really want that tanto, chipaway bowie, Dale Earnhardt, high carbon stainless steel commemorative knife from the HSN
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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by Frank » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:21 am

OT

i'm not sure prepping is spreading, but Mall-Ninjary is skyrocketing at dangerous levels...you guys should hear the conversations at the local surplus :roll:
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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by Glennbo » Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:08 am

I'm currently at about 3-4 months of food, water, fire-making, etc...supplies. But I wanted to reach for 6 months or a year's worth. Now I'm kind of bogged down at four months worth, and I've lost the motivation to prep further, as the peace of mind I've gotten from my current supplies seems adequate.

But now my medical supplies are reaching their expiration dates and I'll need to totally replace them soon, as well as some other perishables. And it's a little dispirititing to throw out expired supplies and replace them with more of the same that will probably be thrown out again, etc...when the people around me during that time never made that expenditure. So it looks like they were right! :x

But perhaps this train of thought is hijacking the thread into the "how much is enough" category. :|
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Post by Stercutus » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:33 am

But now my medical supplies are reaching their expiration dates and I'll need to totally replace them soon, as well as some other perishables. And it's a little dispirititing to throw out expired supplies and replace them with more of the same that will probably be thrown out again, etc...when the people around me during that time never made that expenditure.
I am confused? Why are you throwing out training aides and donation items? :?
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Post by J.C. » Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:24 pm

Blacksmith wrote:
But now my medical supplies are reaching their expiration dates and I'll need to totally replace them soon, as well as some other perishables. And it's a little dispirititing to throw out expired supplies and replace them with more of the same that will probably be thrown out again, etc...when the people around me during that time never made that expenditure.
I am confused? Why are you throwing out training aides and donation items? :?
Depends on the supplies. Expired antibiotics aren't really much of a training aid.
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Post by Qwestor » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:28 am

I talked to a lady today whose sister is in panic mode about "the end of the world" next year. She is stocking up on everything she can and talking about getting guns. It seemed this lady thought her sister a little touched. I told her that I am not panicked about TEOTWAWKI, and her sister shouldn't be either (doesn't hurt to say that). Still her sister will be better prepared in case of an emergency than she will be, now who is crazy. :D

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Glennbo wrote:I'm currently at about 3-4 months of food, water, fire-making, etc...supplies. But I wanted to reach for 6 months or a year's worth. Now I'm kind of bogged down at four months worth, and I've lost the motivation to prep further, as the peace of mind I've gotten from my current supplies seems adequate.

But now my medical supplies are reaching their expiration dates and I'll need to totally replace them soon, as well as some other perishables. And it's a little dispirititing to throw out expired supplies and replace them with more of the same that will probably be thrown out again, etc...when the people around me during that time never made that expenditure. So it looks like they were right! :x

But perhaps this train of thought is hijacking the thread into the "how much is enough" category. :|

it might help to think of it as an insurance premium.... thats what it is really. I dont honestly expect much of anything to happen to society but i dont expect to have a house fire, auto wreck, or a heart attack either. Insurance isnt supposed to serve any practicle purpose either, its just supposed to fill in when you need it
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Glennbo wrote:I'm currently at about 3-4 months of food, water, fire-making, etc...supplies. But I wanted to reach for 6 months or a year's worth. Now I'm kind of bogged down at four months worth, and I've lost the motivation to prep further, as the peace of mind I've gotten from my current supplies seems adequate.

But now my medical supplies are reaching their expiration dates and I'll need to totally replace them soon, as well as some other perishables. And it's a little dispirititing to throw out expired supplies and replace them with more of the same that will probably be thrown out again, etc...when the people around me during that time never made that expenditure. So it looks like they were right! :x

But perhaps this train of thought is hijacking the thread into the "how much is enough" category. :|

it might help to think of it as an insurance premium.... thats what it is really. I dont honestly expect much of anything to happen to society but i dont expect to have a house fire, auto wreck, or a heart attack either. Insurance isnt supposed to serve any practicle purpose either, its just supposed to fill in when you need it
Exactly.
Besides, as far as food preps go, you're eating what you store, storing what you eat, right? Right? So, how can it possibly be a wasted expenditure? That stuff certainly isn't going to be getting any CHEAPER. As to how long/far ahead your food stores should go, at a maximum, I'd say that storing for further ahead than any expiration date would be overkill, but not before that. Storing food that will go bad before you get to eat it- bad idea, and a waste of money. Storing food to a point that you feel comfortable with- good idea, solid spending of money. Whether your comfort level is 6 months out, or 6 years out, go with what you feel is right. Your needs are going to be different from someone else's- Tornadoes may not be a factor for you, where someone else is going to be looking strongly at the possibility of them.
Prepping other things, like medical products, is another case, where you may actually see some items being replaced before they get used. Now, unless you are replacing a privately owned dialysis machine or something like that, it may seem like a waste of money, but- that's where the insurance analogy comes in. Medications, btw, should also be rotated like your food preps- using the oldest as needed, stocking as you use them with new. For regular prescriptions, this is an easier thing to stay on, like the food preps. For items that don't normally get used, like antibiotics stored "just in case", you're likely to see it more as wasted money. Don't- you must have needed them at some point to get the original prescription, right? In that case, they've already served their purpose, and you were just lucky enough to have some left over- that's all. Most first aid supplies, like bandages, remain useful for longer than you'll live, if they remain undamaged and unused. So, in reality, there's probably not that much, percentage wise, of your medical preps that will be replaced unused, even if that replacement DOES seem like a tough financial nut to crack when the time comes. Try to space out the required replacement times, so you don't have to get a whole slew of things at once.
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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by Silent Kube » Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:10 am

If anyone is interested, I found the commercial I was talking about on youtube. It's put out by fema of course. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87XXI4YeTPM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Is prepping spreading in your area?

Post by KnightoftheRoc » Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:55 am

Interesting (to me, anyway) update, and it's even on topic!
The recent earthquake in Japan, and the resulting tsunami caused me to worry- because I'm a father, and my daughter is in Hawaii, but I was unsure of exactly WHERE in Hawaii- ie; elevation and distance from actual coastline. Turns out she was plenty safe, she lives in an area other people would head to for this sort of thing, so she just hunkered down and talked to me on her cell phone. All is good.

However, we got to talking about being prepared for emergencies, and I gave her hell for not even owning a fire extinguisher- it's a new apartment, but SHEESH! She now wants to make up an emergency kit, and I'm steering her toward the BOB concept, and also here to ZS for some educational reading. I'm also advising her to wait about two weeks for things there to get back to normal, so shortages won't impact her purchases and steer her toward crap quality items.
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