cyruspace wrote: raptor wrote:
cyruspace wrote:Scanned the entire thread
Am I missing something?
Why would you store gas for an extended period of time?
You always use the older gas first
No need to buy stabilizer which saves money and you can monitor your storage cans because you are using them.
Unless you are storing a lot of gas and then you can't get through your rotation fast enough, but how many are looking to do that?
Different people have different needs. There are many reasons to stock gasoline. For instance a generator; it uses a lot of fuel and without fuel on hand, is useless.
Another reason is a bug out. A BOL may more than one tank of gas away. For instance my BOL is slightly more than an hour away...except during a hurricane evacuation when if I do not leave early it can take 12+ hours in bumper to bumper traffic to get there.
In my case my generator uses copious amounts of diesel so if I want to be able to operate it I have to have a lot of diesel on hand.
So there are many reasons to have a stock pile of fuel.
From a safety standpoint I personally try to minimize gasoline storage. I also refuel at half a tank. That is why I keep 20 gallons. I assume two cars at half a tank each will need 10 gallons each to get to a full tank. The extra 10 gallons in hurricane season is to give each car 5 gallons of extra gas in case we stuck in contraflow traffic.
Given your bug out needs you would still just use the old gas first. Why let any fuel deteriorate?
Your post made me think of something.
If you have a diesel vehicle then have a diesel generator so they use the same fuel?
If you have a gas vehicle then have a gas generator so they use the same fuel?
This would make fuel storage and rotation so much easier.
In a crisis you could decide fuel for vehicle or generator.
If you take preps seriously I believe it's always choose diesel
I believe diesel is safer to store then gas
I agree with "don't let it deteriorate" BUT there is the practical matter of fuel rotation being another chore that few of us have a lot of extra time and energy to devote to. If you want to pour a fuel container in your car every week and fill it up fresh, terrific. How many containers do you store? Or hope to store. For me it's about twenty. So assuming I did one container every week that would take me just under six months to do. But honestly, that's an inconvenient chore I don't like to do and consequently I have been trying to figure out ways to do it less frequently. So far the quarterly schedule has been something I have been able to mostly keep to. Knowing myself, if it was a weekly pain in the keister I would probably just blow it off until the gas was all on the verge of going bad, then have to run a bunch of low-quality fuel through my truck all at once. I'd just rather not do that.
Also, stop and think about a national crisis of the kind that our nation has previously seen. Many of our parents or grandparents remember fuel rationing during the war. If you got a certain amount of stamps and had to justify the use of each of those stamps, that puts a bit of a new spin on things doesn't it? In more recent memory there is the Oil Embargo of the early 1970's. It's easy to prep now.... but it may not always be. Do you have some fuel put back to meet a special need that might go on for an extended period? There may be a gap between when you are able to prep, and when you need to rely on your preps. I used this example on someone the other day... say the weather bureau is loudly announcing over every media outlet in your area that there will be a huge storm in three days. So you figure, great, in three days, I'll need an umbrella. But you get busy and kind forget about it for two days. Then you rush out to the store to get your umbrella the day before the storm hits... surprise, they are all out of umbrellas because everyone's been buying them up because they heard about the storm too. So you are in the awkward position of not needing an umbrella YET, but KNOWING you WILL need one, and still, being UNABLE to get one even though you have the TIME, but not the OPPORTUNITY due to factors outside your control. So right now, we all have a chance to buy more fuel than we need, one container per week... there might come a time when the only gas you will be able to get is just what it takes you to get to work every week. Or worse, you may have to not buy gas at all and take turns carpooling with a neighbor because it's $10 a gallon. During that time do you want to be filling up a fresh container every week? Or going out to fill twenty containers all at once? That attracts a lot of attention during a time when fuel is scarce. Maybe it's better to take two or four containers at once, which you can more easily get in the back of your car without drawing undue attention? And really doesn't look that out of place at the gas station. There might come a day when filling up containers at the pump will be unwise because of even that level of attention... If that happens, you may have to fill your tank, then drive home and siphon gas out of your tank and into the containers.
So Joe Blow who has one or two containers, and figures he can rotate them every week - sure, and in case he suddenly for whatever reason cannot get more gas, he's stuck with just one or two containers in reserve... and if the situation has caught him unawares, he has no practical opportunity to increase the size of his reserve.
You can say I'm lazy for not rotating gas every week, maybe you're right, I don't know. But I'm pretty sure if that had been my plan I'd have gotten tired of it by now and stopped, whereas rotating a few containers quarterly has been something I have been able to stick with and justify in my mind (and tired butt) as being both necessary and worth the effort. Prepper, know thyself. Part of my knowing myself is figuring out what I'm willing and able to commit to on a long-term, ongoing basis. Otherwise, it is so, so easy to let all the duties build up until they become almost insurmountable and one is tempted to just throw up hands and give up.
So last comment, currently we're experiencing an UNPRECEDENTED and I would almost guarantee TEMPORARY discount in prices at the pump. If anyone has had fuel in the back of their mind as something to store for extended bug-out or generator use, maybe now is a great time to enlarge their stored fuel reserve.