For the people in CA after a big quake or in NOLA after Katrina it will seem like the PAW. It is not something that can be explained...only experienced... or not ... if you are lucky.teotwaki wrote: "During the immediate aftermath of Katrina there was a widespread feeling in the GNO area that the world had indeed ended. That we were living in the PAW. Even I felt this way initially."
How could the entire remaining United States be written off by anyone due to severe local weather in GNO??? No matter how slow the Feds were you'd have to know that they would be showing up at some point and take a very dim view of illegal acts. The timeline shows that it was a little over a week before thousands of troops showed up, not even close to PAW. It was a screwed up mess but not "living in a PAW".
The feds showing up did not solve the problem. There were simply more people available.
This is really getting this thread off topic. Feel free to PM me for pics and details; if you are interested.
Every state has abandoned property laws. Within each state many cities have their laws governing found/abandoned property.teotwaki wrote:Some good points mentioned but I was looking for relevant law that governs us in the here and now and how it applies after any major true PAW event, not an 8 day weather event.
Then as I pointed out in my post many of those laws may be overruled by State of Emergency declarations.
You need to look to the state laws where the SHTF event occurs.
I would note that in some instances like an "8 day weather event" just going into an unattended store may be considered felony looting due to the fact that the "8 day weather event" occurred and the store is unattended for that reason.
http://law.justia.com/codes/louisiana/2 ... /rs14-62-5
The State of LA, as do many other states, has a special extra penalty for looting during a State of Emergency. A State of Emergency declaration can possibly by in effect for a very long time.Looting is the intentional entry by a person without authorization into any dwelling or other structure belonging to another and used in whole or in part as a home or place of abode by a person, or any structure belonging to another and used in whole or in part as a place of business, or any vehicle, watercraft, building, plant, establishment, or other structure, movable or immovable, in which normal security of property is not present by virtue of a hurricane, flood, fire, act of God, or force majeure of any kind, or by virtue of a riot, mob, or other human agency, and the obtaining or exerting control over or damaging or removing property of the owner.
This assumes of course that you are not shot for looting.C. Whoever commits the crime of looting during the existence of a state of emergency, ...snip... shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than three years nor more than fifteen years without benefit of probation, parole, or suspension of sentence.
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/201 ... y_got.html
All the more reason to avoid Walmart in a SHTF event