2018 Hurricane Season

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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by NT2C » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:38 pm

crypto wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:27 pm
I seem to remember reading something about the NC legislature banning the use of sea level rise data for coastal planning purposes, too
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People were told to prepare to evacuate communities up and down a stretch of coastline already identified as particularly vulnerable to rising sea levels due to climate change.
They're called 'barrier islands' for a reason. People who build on them are effing idiots.
Agreed, I'm in Charleston, and those that live on some of the new developmets out there are rather torqued with the fact that federal flood insurance will not be given. I can understand some homes that have existed there for a few generations being covered, but the new housing isnt. Then you see stupid stuff like this:
"Developers are facing legal opposition and a race against the tides in the fight to construct homes on the rapidly eroding Captain Sam’s Spit." https://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/The ... ne-shrinks
Just think about that for a minute. We gotta hurry and build houses before the island washes away. It takes a special kind of stupid.


Anyways looks like it'll just be a wet one for Charleston this time... :)
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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by SCBrian » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:19 pm

crypto wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:27 pm
I seem to remember reading something about the NC legislature banning the use of sea level rise data for coastal planning purposes, too

Sea level rise, is one thing. Building a house on a sand bar is another. :rofl: Of course neither should be done.
I have no problem if they want to build there as long as #1 - the Govt doesn't supplement/offer flood insurance/any insurance. #2 - they post a bond high enough to remediate the area to it's natural state after the houses float away. #3 - Post a bond to clean up the afore mentioned toilet flush and debris.
Also - Bond is non refundable, cant "Bankrupt" yourself out, etc. Some of the home builders around here are known for building subpar or houses just at code, and as soon as they start falling apart go bankrupt for a week, then re-open under a new name.

Anyway, I'll be here (Charleston) during the storm and will update as needed. Home is on a rise, minimal threat from trees, and survived Hugo, which was worse. I expect the garage to flood a little (It does everytime there is an extended rain) but otherwise, should be ok.
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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by MPMalloy » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:10 pm

crypto wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:27 pm
I seem to remember reading something about the NC legislature banning the use of sea level rise data for coastal planning purposes, too
If that's not Gov't for ya, I dunno what is.

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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by MPMalloy » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:54 am

From NPR: Hurricane Florence, A Large Category 2 Storm, Closes In On North Carolina Coast
Hurricane Florence's heavy rains and tropical storm-force winds began hitting North Carolina's Outer Banks Thursday morning, leading the way for a storm packing 110-mph winds. Florence has weakened a bit over 24 hours, but it's also grown even larger – and it will likely dump torrential rain over North and South Carolina through Monday.

"Little change in strength is expected before the center reaches the coast, with weakening expected after the center moves inland," the National Hurricane Center said. Florence is currently a strong Category 2 storm.

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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by crypto » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:25 am

Not a whole lot, just checkin in on folks in harms way this week, I have some friends and family out that way, but pretty far inland. They're more worried about mudslides and road washouts than flooding.

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crypto wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:27 pm
I seem to remember reading something about the NC legislature banning the use of sea level rise data for coastal planning purposes, too
If that's not Gov't for ya, I dunno what is.

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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by absinthe beginner » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:52 am

As usual, unprepared idiots lose their minds as mob stores at the last minute.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... plies.html

Chaos erupts in North Carolina Walmart as residents stock up on supplies in preparation for 'monster' Hurricane Florence

North Carolina residents rushed to stack up on food, water, toilet paper and other necessities ahead of Hurricane Florence

Although the storm was downgraded to a Category 2 Wednesday night, is it expected to bring devastation to the Carolinas and parts of Georgia Friday

A rowdy crowd was shown in a Facebook video shared by an employee at the supermarket off Glenn School Road in Durham

Police officers were made their rounds around the Walmart to ensure the safety of shoppers

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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by majorhavoc » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:13 am

This from the big box mob before a disaster of undetermined magnitude even happens.

Imagine what unprepared people will do in the days following a major disaster that has actually occurred. Especially if it looks like a governmental response will not be coming anytime soon.

A hurricane is scary. A desperate mob is much more so, at least to me.

Contrast this with SouthernZombie's prudent preps he discusses over in the Atlantic tropics thread. viewtopic.php?f=22&t=121929

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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by MPMalloy » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:11 am

What are actual pre-disaster effects of gun sales? Has any one heard of that being studied? I've heard before of "runs on guns" after a disaster.

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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by absinthe beginner » Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:20 pm

Meanwhile, Hong Kong is facing a monster typhoon.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/soc ... worst-most

Super Typhoon Mangkhut: city’s residents prepare for worst as most powerful storm since records began edges closer to Hong Kong

Hongkongers began preparing for the worst on Thursday, boarding up windows, building flood defences, and stocking up on essential items as Super Typhoon Mangkhut edged ever closer to the city.

Predicted to be the most powerful storm since records began, with maximum sustained winds of up to 240km/h (149mph), the tropical cyclone is forecast to pass within 100km (62 miles) of the city on Sunday morning.

The Hong Kong Observatory warned that conditions were expected to deteriorate significantly later in the week, with very hot weather forecast for Friday and Saturday, followed by frequent heavy rain, squalls, and rough seas predicted for later this weekend.

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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by absinthe beginner » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:34 pm

Mangkhut: Thousands evacuate as storm bears down on Philippines
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/09/ ... 13248.html

A super typhoon roared towards the Philippines on Thursday prompting thousands to evacuate ahead of its heavy rains and fierce winds set to strike at the weekend before moving on to China.

Typhoon Mangkhut, which has already blasted through the Northern Mariana Islands and Guam, is speeding across the Pacific Ocean with winds that can gust as high as 255 kilometres per hour.

Authorities said some 10 million people in the Philippines are in the storm's path, not including millions more in heavily populated coastal China.

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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by absinthe beginner » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:59 pm

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/soc ... ning-chaos

Super Typhoon Mangkhut and six other storms threatening chaos around the world – from Hurricane Florence to Tropical Storm Olivia

As Hong Kong braces for the what could be the most intense storm to hit the city since records began, six other storms are also brewing, or have raised alarm, in other parts of the world.

Super Typhoon Mangkhut is joined on the tempestuous list by Barijat, Florence, Olivia, Isaac, Helene and Joyce. Tropical Depression Paul recently blew out.

On Thursday, the Hong Kong Observatory cancelled all cyclone warnings as Tropical Storm Barijat moved towards the vicinity of Leizhou Peninsula, in the southern part of China.

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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by MPMalloy » Sun Sep 30, 2018 2:19 am

From MSN: Residents living in unsafe, unsanitary conditions weeks after Hurricane Florence
NEW BERN, N.C. — Nearly two weeks ago, when Hurricane Florence pummeled the Carolinas, the storm destroyed the trailer Army veteran Paganda Howard lived in with her husband and two daughters. Now she's like many others in this historic colonial town, forced to live with family in cramped and outright hazardous conditions.

Howard is currently staying at her sister's home, where a tree slumps against the roof and walls are warped by water damage. The family of four has joined her sister and six nephews, crowding into the modest three-bedroom home where clothing sits in wet piles and mold appears to coat the bathtub and vents.

Many families are forced to live in unsanitary or unsafe conditions because they have no other choice right now. But Howard said finding adequate housing in New Bern has always been a challenge — the storm only served to show how dire circumstances have become for some.

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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by Stercutus » Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:19 pm

Years back we got hit with a TS at NTC. Other than the flooding everything was muddy for a good 36 hours. Deserts don't take to rain well.
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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by MPMalloy » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:17 am

From FEME, via an email: Hurricane Willa (CAT4):
...WILLA RAPIDLY STRENGTHENS INTO A MAJOR HURRICANE...
...NEW WARNINGS AND WATCHES ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTHWESTERN
MEXICO...


SUMMARY OF 300 PM MDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...17.0N 107.0W
ABOUT 250 MI...400 KM SSW OF CABO CORRIENTES MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...115 MPH...185 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNW OR 330 DEGREES AT 6 MPH...9 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...963 MB...28.44 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
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CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

The government of Mexico has replaced the Tropical Storm Watch
along the Pacific coast of Mexico from Playa Perula to San Blas
with a Tropical Storm Warning. The government of Mexico has also
issued a Tropical Storm Watch from north of Mazatlan to Bahia
Tempehuaya.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Hurricane Watch is in effect for...
* San Blas to Mazatlan

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Playa Perula to San Blas

A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for...
* North of Mazatlan to Bahia Tempehuaya
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Hurricane Willa (CAT-4) (Advisory #9 as of 5:00 a.m. EDT) • About 175 miles SSW of Cabo Corrientes, Mexico • Moving N at 7 mph • Maximum sustained winds 155 mph • Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 30 miles • Tropical-storm-force winds extend out 90 miles.

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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by flybynight » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:53 pm

At 600 PM MDT (0000 UTC), the center of Hurricane Willa was located
near latitude 20.2 North, longitude 107.2 West. Willa is moving
toward the north near 8 mph (13 km/h), and this general motion
is expected to continue through tonight. Willa is forecast to
accelerate toward the north-northeast and move over or very near the
Islas Marias early Tuesday and then make landfall along the west-
central coast of mainland Mexico in the hurricane warning area
Tuesday afternoon or evening.

Maximum sustained winds are near 150 mph (240 km/h) with higher
gusts. Willa is an extremely dangerous category 4 hurricane on the
Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale. Gradual weakening is forecast
during the next day or so, but Willa is expected to be a dangerous
major hurricane when it reaches the coast of Mexico. Rapid
weakening is expected after landfall Tuesday night and Wednesday.

Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 35 miles (55 km) from
the center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 125
miles (205 km).

The estimated minimum central pressure is 933 mb (27.55 inches).


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
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STORM SURGE: An extremely dangerous storm surge is likely along
portions of the coast of southwestern Mexico in southern Sinaloa
and Nayarit, especially near and to the south of where the center of
Willa makes landfall. Near the coast, the surge will be accompanied
by large and destructive waves.

RAINFALL: Willa is expected to produce storm total rainfall
accumulations of 6 to 12 inches, with local amounts to 18 inches,
across portions of western Jalisco, western Nayarit, and southern
Sinaloa in Mexico. This rainfall will cause life-threatening flash
flooding and landslides.

Farther inland, Willa is expected to produce rainfall amount of 2 to
4 inches across portions of Zacateca, Durango, southeast Chihuahua,
and Coahuila in Mexico, with local amounts to 6 inches possible.
This rainfall could cause life-threatening flash flooding.

WIND: Hurricane conditions are expected within the hurricane
warning area beginning Tuesday afternoon, with tropical storm
conditions expected by early Tuesday. Tropical storm conditions are
expected within the tropical storm warning areas tonight and
Tuesday.

SURF: Large swells generated by Willa will continue to affect
portions of the coast of southwestern and west-central Mexico
during the next few days. Swells should begin to affect portions
of the coast of the southern Baja California peninsula later today.
These swells are likely to cause life-threatening surf and rip
current conditions. Please consult products from your local weather
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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by Langenator » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:23 am

What's left of Willa should be moving through central Texas today. Yay. More rain.
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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by MPMalloy » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:02 pm

From NPR: Super Typhoon Yutu, 'Strongest Storm Of 2018,' Slams U.S. Pacific Territory
The storm is now moving away from the Mariana Islands — though that does not mean it is finished. Super Typhoon Yutu continues to beat a path northwest and has the potential to threaten the Philippines or Taiwan in the days to come.
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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by RickOShea » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:55 pm

BREAKING: Third lineman dead after hit-and-run crash

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Florida Highway Patrol says a third lineman has died after Wednesday night's hit-and-run crash in Chipley, Florida. 22-year old Ryan Barrett was in critical condition after the accident. He has since passed away...

...According to the Chipley Observer, a vehicle veered off the roadway and hit the linemen. The crew was working to restore power to the Chipley area, which has been without power for 14 days....

...According to a new release from the Florida Highway Patrol, Goedtke has been charged with felony DUI manslaughter, felony vehicular homicide and felony leaving the scene of an accident. Additional charges are pending.
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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by MPMalloy » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:09 pm

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Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:55 pm
BREAKING: Third lineman dead after hit-and-run crash

https://www.wkrg.com/news/northwest-flo ... 1547625038


Florida Highway Patrol says a third lineman has died after Wednesday night's hit-and-run crash in Chipley, Florida. 22-year old Ryan Barrett was in critical condition after the accident. He has since passed away...

...According to the Chipley Observer, a vehicle veered off the roadway and hit the linemen. The crew was working to restore power to the Chipley area, which has been without power for 14 days....

...According to a new release from the Florida Highway Patrol, Goedtke has been charged with felony DUI manslaughter, felony vehicular homicide and felony leaving the scene of an accident. Additional charges are pending.
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Re: 2018 Hurricane Season

Post by MPMalloy » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:07 am

Remote Hawaiian Island Nearly Vanished After Hurricane Walaka

You'll be seeing more things like this as climate change continutes time goes on.

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