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Underwater shelter

Post by velojym » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:58 am

Whether zeds, MZBs, or others who might find you tasty, seems like it'd be hard for a low-tech horde to find you if you built a nice, comfy little bugout shelter and sank it in a lake.
If it was deep at all, you'd need SCUBA or really well trained lungs.

I was thinking of something like a couple of (unused) propane tanks big enough to stand in, or anything that could take the pressure of your selected depth, resting on pilings, connected by a strong 'wetroom' which would act as the main entryway.

Obviously, for stealth purposes, you can't moor or anchor a boat just above the house when you get there, so maybe a modified jonboat or the like, tanked and valved to be sinkable on demand, with compressed air to raise it back up (by filling bladders) when time to leave. It can be driven by an electric system derived from the 'scooters' popular with divers, and the entry way could be made large enough to park the boat if you're feeling ambitious.


Power could be provided in a few ways. If in an area that experiences tidal pressure, maybe that could be harnessed. Solar, wind, or even a stealthy connection to an existing land house could be run underground and into the lake. Water surrounding the shelter can be treated to be drinkable, and some food could be had by fishing in the 'foyer'. Crab/lobster traps, too, depending on location.
You could have a stealth garden onshore, too, if coming and going isn't a problem. Or, if not too deep, maybe even a greenhouse facility inside the shelter.

This is 'pie in the sky', sure. But seems like a fun idea to pursue, if nothing other than a mental exercise.
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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by majorhavoc » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:19 am

I'd contribute to this thread but doing so would involve disclosing details and hints about the location of my Jules Verne-esque Nautilus-type submersible.

Suffice it to say that a submarine is the answer to your technical concerns, particularly one powered by harnessing the nearly unlimited potential made available by unlocking the mysteries of the atom.

Beyond that, the sea is a bountiful garden that can provide for all of man's needs. Dealing with the occasional kraken or mutinous crew is but a small price to pay for such abundance.

Now if you'll excuse me, I must return to brooding over the helm of my magnificent vessel.

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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by 00dlez » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:24 am

I think the thing you are looking for is called a submarine - http://www.maritimesales.com/PI12.htm
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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by velojym » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:39 pm

A sub would be sweet, but propulsion on a boat big enough to be comfortable would be a lot more expensive, I would think.

Been a LONG time since I read Jules. I need to pick that one up again. :clap:
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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by raptor » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:43 pm

00dlez wrote:I think the thing you are looking for is called a submarine - http://www.maritimesales.com/PI12.htm
O jeez a used ex-Soviet Subarmine that has been decommission for 25 years and is thus 50 +/- years old. Can you say deferred maintenance, leaks and lord knows what.

Still it would be fun to go get a state boat registration for it or USCG documentation to register it just see what they would say.

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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by TacAir » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:55 pm

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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by Zimmy » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:46 pm

Shit, I just started on my earth-ship bunker/house. Now I'll have to wait for global warming to submerge it.
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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by 00dlez » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:51 pm

Zimmy wrote:Shit, I just started on my earth-ship bunker/house. Now I'll have to wait for global warming to submerge it.
Just build it on a beach and wait?
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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by Benbrutal » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:53 pm

If you have a pond on your BOL, which is a good idea anyway, you could have what appears to be a floating dock with an entrance to an underwater emergency bunker. I wouldn't want to live permanently under water without one of those small Toshiba nuke plants, but it could work out as an emergency hide.
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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by Stercutus » Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:03 pm

This Submarine is Sold and we do not have more information about who bought it or where it is.
Please do not write requesting a submarine since we will not reply
The photos are here for peoples curiosity only.
Good luck with that.

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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by norcalprep » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:22 pm

There's always the Migaloo http://www.migaloo-submarines.com

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Post by LowKey » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:01 am

Stercutus wrote:
This Submarine is Sold and we do not have more information about who bought it or where it is.
Please do not write requesting a submarine since we will not reply
The photos are here for peoples curiosity only.
Good luck with that.

The best part about an underwater lair is the electric eel guard dogs.

The worst part is the septic system. Gives new meaning to the term "floaters". :gonk:
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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by Close_enough » Sat Aug 27, 2016 9:33 pm

norcalprep wrote:There's always the Migaloo http://www.migaloo-submarines.com

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You beat me to it.

Though, the ability to temporarily submerge would be an effective defence against anything without ASW capabilities.

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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by jor-el » Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:34 pm

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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by ineffableone » Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:15 pm

This reminds me of the airship BOL thread.

While a nice fantasy, an underwater or in the air BOL just doesn't seem practical unless your ultra wealthy and can afford some of those billion dollar toys.

I did enjoy looking through the Migaloo site, amazing there are people wealthy enough for a company to provide subs and floating islands for them. But for most of us, that sort of thing is just beyond reach.
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Re: Underwater shelter

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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by norcalprep » Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:54 pm

ineffableone wrote:This reminds me of the airship BOL thread.

While a nice fantasy, an underwater or in the air BOL just doesn't seem practical unless your ultra wealthy and can afford some of those billion dollar toys.

I did enjoy looking through the Migaloo site, amazing there are people wealthy enough for a company to provide subs and floating islands for them. But for most of us, that sort of thing is just beyond reach.
I would rate the chance of a zombiepocalypse occurring as the same as if I were to suddenly come into billions of dollars (tax free hopefully, but I'm not picky). If I am currently preparing for zombies, it would behoove me to also prepare for my eventual financial windfall.

Thus, the Migaloo!

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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by Wraith6761 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:18 pm

raptor wrote:
00dlez wrote:I think the thing you are looking for is called a submarine - http://www.maritimesales.com/PI12.htm
O jeez a used ex-Soviet Subarmine that has been decommission for 25 years and is thus 50 +/- years old. Can you say deferred maintenance, leaks and lord knows what.

Still it would be fun to go get a state boat registration for it or USCG documentation to register it just see what they would say.
Ah c'mon, the Soviets had amazing quality control.... :roll:

It'd be worth it to see the looks and reactions you'd get surfacing that thing near a CG cutter though...once it's properly registered of course.
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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by quazi » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:35 pm

Not quite as cool, but way more feasible, might be a beaver lodge kind of shelter.

Beaver's build their lodges with the only entrance being underwater, so you have to swim into it.

You could build a pretty hardcore bunker with only small holes for air exchange above ground, and the entrance under the water. Something like a concrete geodesic dome with plenty of reinforcement maybe? If someone came across it there would be no readily apparent way in. Even if it was really tough, I would put a lot of work into camouflaging it, as if some raider or even bored teenagers came across it they might feel a strong urge to find out what's inside the weird structure. Beaver lodges to a pretty good job of keeping things out, but I've seen ones that have been ripped open by other animals. (Beavers usually build more than one lodge, and if the one they're in gets attacked they swim to a backup.)

The idea doesn't appeal to me, as I don't want to risk hypothermia every time I enter or leave my shelter. Someplace warmer it might actually work fairly well.

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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by KGBrick » Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:34 pm

Wraith6761 wrote:
raptor wrote:
00dlez wrote:I think the thing you are looking for is called a submarine - http://www.maritimesales.com/PI12.htm
O jeez a used ex-Soviet Subarmine that has been decommission for 25 years and is thus 50 +/- years old. Can you say deferred maintenance, leaks and lord knows what.

Still it would be fun to go get a state boat registration for it or USCG documentation to register it just see what they would say.
Ah c'mon, the Soviets had amazing quality control.... :roll:

It'd be worth it to see the looks and reactions you'd get surfacing that thing near a CG cutter though...once it's properly registered of course.
I think I'll do that the first few times via remote control...

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Post by raptor » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:14 pm

KGBrick wrote:
Wraith6761 wrote:
raptor wrote:
00dlez wrote:I think the thing you are looking for is called a submarine - http://www.maritimesales.com/PI12.htm
O jeez a used ex-Soviet Subarmine that has been decommission for 25 years and is thus 50 +/- years old. Can you say deferred maintenance, leaks and lord knows what.

Still it would be fun to go get a state boat registration for it or USCG documentation to register it just see what they would say.
Ah c'mon, the Soviets had amazing quality control.... :roll:

It'd be worth it to see the looks and reactions you'd get surfacing that thing near a CG cutter though...once it's properly registered of course.
I think I'll do that the first few times via remote control...
Honestly I think it would be funnier to submerge next to them.

I would assume you could on be boarded for a "courtesy" safety and MSD check pretty much every time you tied up or left the harbor...assuming of course the thing did not sink once the dock lines were untied.

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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by KGBrick » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:35 pm

raptor wrote:
KGBrick wrote:
Wraith6761 wrote: Ah c'mon, the Soviets had amazing quality control.... :roll:

It'd be worth it to see the looks and reactions you'd get surfacing that thing near a CG cutter though...once it's properly registered of course.
I think I'll do that the first few times via remote control...
Honestly I think it would be funnier to submerge next to them.

I would assume you could on be boarded for a "courtesy" safety and MSD check pretty much every time you tied up or left the harbor...assuming of course the thing did not sink once the dock lines were untied.
That plus I expect you'd get to join some exclusive watch lists, be shadowed by CG/USN/foreign equivalent vessels everywhere you go, and maybe there would be some bright regulatory types inventing new rules just for your pleasure. I wonder how they'd get you to surface for "safety" checks while you're at sea and submerged, though? :v: Anyone still use signalling/"practice" depth charges?

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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by Close_enough » Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:32 pm

quazi wrote:.

You could build a pretty hardcore bunker with only small holes for air exchange above ground, and the entrance under the water. .
A retractable snorkel/periscope would be a very nice touch on a subaquatic shelter. Besides, the whole point of a bunker is to sit tight and wait out the crisis.

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Re: Underwater shelter

Post by Dawgboy » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:29 pm

There is a cheaper way to that floating island...

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