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No that's not me. None of those videos are me. I was still living out of state when that tornado wreck happened. I just remembered being shown those video's during my training so I grabbed them for an example. The video above was from a Union Pacific train near Harvard IL in 2008. I had my tornado experience in KS several years later. And mine wasn't nearly as cool as that. The tornado hit us in the middle, flipped a bunch of cars off the rails, sent us into emergency mode, and traveled down the rails for a bit before moving on. Nothing exciting.

In the event of accidents like that, as long as the wrecked cars weren't filled with a TIH/PIH chemical of some type, you could still in theory, pass through relatively easy, as long as the cars aren't stacked like tossed firewood. If they are filled with a TIH/PIH chemical, you will likely be dead before you know it.

(NOTED: Not advocating trespassing, just talking in the tone of intel gathering. Remember train vs. pretty much anything = train winning).
However, on another note, railroad crossings might be the only way to cross certain waterways if bridges become congested and clogged with dead cars, etc. Often these crossings are away from main throughways far enough that not ever Tom, Dick, and Harry will be rushing to use it. For instance at the Kansas/Missouri state line near I-70 there is at least 2 River crossings with in walking distance of the highway.


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Brekar --- good reminder about the dangers of some cargos on derailed trains.

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Article on the practical uses of intel gathering for a local riot: Intro to Intelligence for Preppers (Ferguson Riots)

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The roll of intelligence for small teams:

http://citizenmilitem.com/?p=289

From the link:
What is Intelligence

Intelligence, in the context of this discussion, is the act of reducing uncertainty. For militias, neighborhood protection teams, mutual assistance groups and other small groups, intelligence is crucial in economy of effort.

“Economy of effort” is essentially “getting the most bang for your buck.”
Imagine the mission of: “Protect your home from looters after the storm”. Without any information, you don’t know where to focus observation, what to plan for, etc…. As we develop intelligence, we can reduce uncertainty, and better defend your home. If you know that the most likely looters will be young disenfranchised Swedish immigrants from the housing projects north of your neighborhood, you can be aware of what to look for. If you know the terrain of your area, then you can determine that the Swedish looters will come from one or two avenues of approach. This allows you to focus your observation there. Etc…

Pre-planning

While in “peacetime” or “DEFCON 4”, or “condition blue”, or whatever the operative term for “No immediate operations or threats,” there are a number of intelligence functions that should be carried out to be prepared for operations.

INTELLIGENCE PREPARATION OF THE BATTLEFIELD
One of the first tasks an intelligence section should carry out is Intelligence Preparation of the Battlefield (or IPB)
In IPB, you determine the area of operations (AO), area of interest (AI), Map terrain features and determine lanes of movement, and avenues of approach. Where are obstacles, etc…


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I went out to see first hand an old 4x4 trail that I have not been to in a long time. I collected some good info on the natural springs and possible camp areas. Lots of damage to the forests from the drought, fires and bark beatles but there are some really nice areas to camp at. Was cold (34F) and windy (20+ mph) up there with a light dusting of snow and any puddles or pools of water in the road were frozen. The road no longer goes all the way through so it is mostly forgotten by locals.

Heading up into the scrub covered hills about 3,000 feet in elevation and climbing steadily

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More trail to climb and then it starts a more horizontal traverse across the mountain range

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Some areas were still treeless
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Steadily gaining elevation as confirmed by the GPS stating the obvious "Driving on unpaved road" :mrgreen:

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Found a really nice spot to conduct a mock bugout and it is not a bad hike away from the road

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The snow was light but still a welcome sight

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One reason it has yet to melt

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A little bit of rockfall on the road

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Steep dropoffs

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Another camping area

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The end of the trail

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All that movement while you are gathering is sure to catch someone's eye. Ever think about hiding the truck?
Another source of intel: http://www.borderlandbeat.com/

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All that movement while you are gathering is sure to catch someone's eye. Ever think about hiding the truck?
Another source of intel: http://www.borderlandbeat.com/


Bright silver sure isn't stealthy! :mrgreen:

I would opine that in the current times I look like any other offroader, bow hunter etc. so more lkely to be ignored. However, in different times maybe I might want some sort of wrap to tone down the visibility? It would also make sense to hide the truck close by (camo netting?) and proceed on foot or a mountain bike.

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Another source of intel: http://www.borderlandbeat.com/


A lot of their material comes from here: http://www.trackingterrorism.org/

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...or one of the other open source collections. I chose the drug war because of your location and because it is like a forever war in that the demand signal drives the market.

my comment was meant in a "have you thought about?" sort of way, like many points made here I am guessing. Knowing the terrain and speed will keep you out of some potential trouble as it seems like you are exploring routes and places. Some creativity and terrain appreciation would allow you to mostly disappear when you stop without having to carry heavy camo nets, but they are available on the surplus market. A few items would break up the outline, cut down on shine, and simple bed sheets can be dyed any shade you want to mimic your environment. It's the movement itself that can be most risky. If you worked into the MCOO, you can quickly see what travel points will become impossibly congested. In your area, they are probably already known by most people. Congest them on your overlay and determine trafficable gaps. Consider what percentage of the mass would make the same choices. Large numbers of people can make things go bad quickly for some of the smallest reasons so panic ought to scare people living near large cities. People that make it out, I would think, would be apprehensive about running into others at first, especially with the old and never going away 'have and have not' issues.

Hopefully, there will be more about trains as well. As a youngster, I used the RR tracks for a lot of foot travel and the occasional wheeled movement across state lines.

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Quick note on Railroads and intel gathering. One way to pick up on new activity in your area is to watch the FCC license grants. For instance the railroad folks are branching outside of the usual 150 MHz frequencies and have some new licenses in the 219 MHz range

Southern California Regional Rail Authority

12/16/2016 New Application Received Special Temporary Authority requested

1 - Fullerton, Fullerton (Orange) CA [Structure: Monopole] (map)
[Antenna 1 - HTT: 2.0m, Polarization: Vertical, Gain: 2.1dBi, Azimuth: 0.0°]
219.7875 Ant: 1 50p 17K8DXW 8K90DXW

2 - Galivan S1, Mission Viejo (Orange) CA [Structure: Monopole] (map)
[Antenna 1 - HTT: 2.0m, Polarization: Vertical, Gain: 2.1dBi, Azimuth: 170.0°]
[Antenna 2 - HTT: 2.0m, Polarization: Vertical, Gain: 2.1dBi, Azimuth: 315.0°]
219.5375 Ant: 1 50p 17K8DXW 8K90DXW
219.6875 Ant: 2 50p 17K8DXW 8K90DXW

3 - San Clemente, San Clemente (Orange) CA [Structure: Monopole] (map)
[Antenna 1 - HTT: 2.0m, Polarization: Vertical, Gain: 2.1dBi, Azimuth: 65.0°]
219.9625 Ant: 1 50p 17K8DXW 8K90DXW

4 - Serra, Dana Point (Orange) CA [Structure: Monopole] (map)
[Antenna 1 - HTT: 2.0m, Polarization: Vertical, Gain: 2.1dBi, Azimuth: 165.0°]
219.6375 Ant: 1 50p 17K8DXW 8K90DXW

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Recently purchased this trail-cam on deep discount at the local gun store. Wildgame innovations Blade X7. Appears to be discontinued but not a problem. It can accept external 6 volt power which means that can be solar/battery for long term use.

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Nice. I am a big fan of trail cameras. I use rechargeable AAs and find them able to watch an area for months at a time if necessary. I use lock boxes so they do not walk away and consider them an economy of force tool to observe areas that I do not have to step foot on except to reload batteries and a memory chip. I use lock boxes so that they do not walk away. I am posting some pics from this month. In the top pic, I had just dumped a glob of Thanksgiving dressing that I had frozen for this purpose. After it thawed I took it out and sat it on a stump in front of a camera. According to the DTG stamp I had not even made it back to the truck before some interloper attacked it. Later, I think he smiled at the camera. It would be interesting to see what a week of 24/7 observation on an offroad you travel would display. I would find it interesting.
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Yes! I was thinking of some areas that might be potential cache locations. I am using Sanyo/Panasonic Eneloop NiMh batteries in my unit.

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...or one of the other open source collections. I chose the drug war because of your location and because it is like a forever war in that the demand signal drives the market.

my comment was meant in a "have you thought about?" sort of way, like many points made here I am guessing. Knowing the terrain and speed will keep you out of some potential trouble as it seems like you are exploring routes and places. Some creativity and terrain appreciation would allow you to mostly disappear when you stop without having to carry heavy camo nets, but they are available on the surplus market. A few items would break up the outline, cut down on shine, and simple bed sheets can be dyed any shade you want to mimic your environment. It's the movement itself that can be most risky. If you worked into the MCOO, you can quickly see what travel points will become impossibly congested. In your area, they are probably already known by most people. Congest them on your overlay and determine trafficable gaps. Consider what percentage of the mass would make the same choices. Large numbers of people can make things go bad quickly for some of the smallest reasons so panic ought to scare people living near large cities. People that make it out, I would think, would be apprehensive about running into others at first, especially with the old and never going away 'have and have not' issues.

Hopefully, there will be more about trains as well. As a youngster, I used the RR tracks for a lot of foot travel and the occasional wheeled movement across state lines.


I'll start out by saying that I agree with your reasons for practicing security measures whether or not they are actually needed at this time. I was just in the mindset that I am out in the forests legitimately poking around and the area is so deserted that there was little to worry about. I guess on the flip side that if a USFS ranger happened along I wouldn't want him to assume I was a drug smuggler due to my secretive behavior, LOL.

The mountain roads are hidden from general sight so I don't think I would be spotted from a distance. I was out there again today without running into anyone but that will be a separate post. :mrgreen:

One side benefit that came out of this activity was realizing that my radios were getting way less than normal of the USFS radio traffic. It turns out that their radio techs have been implementing a new radio communications channel plan this year. This site is a good source of Federal radio frequencies and the link I am showing is for California but can be switched to other states.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/? ... =4301#cats

Whether you have a scanner or a full transceiver if there is a USFS area near you it is straightforward to monitor their VHR radio comms.

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Can't really add anything to this discussion as militias are illegal in Alabama. I will say that their mission of "Commitment to Community" is so open ended it could mean anything. As always use caution when dealing with groups that train with firearms. It only takes one idiot to put a hole through your knee with an ND.


So are gangs, but they are still plentiful no?

A "group" doesn't have to be called a militia - name it "My hunting buddies" if you want....

The ND part is spot on. Just because someone has guns and gear doesn't make them an expert, or safe.

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Just because someone has guns and gear doesn't make them an expert, or safe.


I recently watched a video from Nutnfancy about the misuse of the term "tactical"


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Back in May 2016 I rode my mountain bike along the main river near me and also gathered as much info as I could on the potential risks of the dam that is upriver from me.

I found this USGS site that lisst flow data for many rivers and I can use it to get a sense of how this local waterway is handling the downpours that are hammering my area right now.

https://waterdata.usgs.gov/ca/nwis/current/?type=flow

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Back in May 2016 I rode my mountain bike along the main river near me and also gathered as much info as I could on the potential risks of the dam that is upriver from me.

I found this USGS site that lists flow data for many rivers and I can use it to get a sense of how this local waterway is handling the downpours that are hammering my area right now.

https://waterdata.usgs.gov/ca/nwis/current/?type=flow


The discharge rate of the dam is pretty impressive right now

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Downstream and closer to me the local creeks' and streets' runoff have added about 80% more flow rate (Toatal 7,140 cubic feet /second) but the gage height is only 5 feet, well below the height of the river channel

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The dam outflow has remained pretty constant but the local river level went up three feet and the flow rate is at 17,500 cubic feet/sec right now.

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Time to add some more notes. Another thread that I started made me realize that I should collect info on any California militia groups that I might run across.

California State Militia: http://www.cal-militia.com/ and https://www.facebook.com/californiastatemilitia/
Apparently their "Charlie Company" group will have a meeting in my area on May 2
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Southern California Militia (appears to be defunct): https://socalmilitia.wordpress.com/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b81jJiU1UV8


California 31st Defense Legion, formerly the California Watchmen: https://www.facebook.com/31stDL
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Oath Keepers, High Desert, San Bernardino County: https://www.facebook.com/Oath-Keepers-H ... 8/timeline

High Desert Militia: defunct?
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