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Expedient Winter Boots

Post by rpc » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:26 pm

During our recent cold snap, I decided it would be fun to go outside without shoes in subzero weather.

I made a pair of the expedient winter boots from Nuclear War Survival Skills and went for a walk around the yard. They were surprisingly comfortable and kept my feet warm. I was only outside for about 5 minutes with them, and even though I used only three sheets of newspaper per foot, and a thin grocery bag, they were quite adequate. I have details at my blog:

http://onetuberadio.com/2014/01/05/expe ... newspaper/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Expedient Winter Boots

Post by Mikeyboy » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:47 pm

rpc wrote:During our recent cold snap, I decided it would be fun to go outside without shoes in subzero weather.

I made a pair of the expedient winter boots from Nuclear War Survival Skills and went for a walk around the yard. They were surprisingly comfortable and kept my feet warm. I was only outside for about 5 minutes with them, and even though I used only three sheets of newspaper per foot, and a thin grocery bag, they were quite adequate. I have details at my blog:

http://onetuberadio.com/2014/01/05/expe ... newspaper/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That is a good blog article. Cool and quirky find.

Funny, when I was a kid growing up , we didn't have fancy waterproof boots. It was basically a sock, a plastic bag, then another sock on top of that and then you put your sneakers on and if need be another plastic bag over your sneakers. The only thing I don't like about the plastic bag on the outside was that it was slippery. The plastic bag not only keeps your foot dry, but it traps heat.

Homeless people have been using newspaper as insulation for years, that is why you see homeless people laying on newspaper or cardboard to protect themselves from the cold ground. They will also stuff their clothing with newspaper.

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Re: Expedient Winter Boots

Post by quazi » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:26 pm

I try to always keep a pair of heavy weight wool socks with me in the winter. All by themselves they're decent footwear in dry-cold. They don't work as well in wet-cold. The biggest problem, in my experience, isn't them getting wet but snow sticking to them.

I've often carried extra plastic bags for improvised waterproofing like you describe, but I've never actually tested it out.

When I first moved to Fairbanks I didn't expect it to get cold so fast, and didn't have appropriate cold weather gear. I had to ride my bicycle out to the shooting range for a class I was taking. I tried riding my bicycle out there the night before and froze my ass off. I also never found the range because I crashed my bicycle into a sign and flattened both tires in what passes for the bad part of town. I was freezing and it was dark so I ended up calling a friend of a friend with a truck to come rescue me. ("Where are you?" he asked me. "I'm by a bunch of buses on South Cushman." "Where?" "...I'm by the yellow porn shop.:oops:")

Determined not to freeze my legs off, I decided to try the trick of using newspaper as insulation. I was tired from staying up late repairing my bicycle tires, so instead of putting the newspaper inside my jeans I duct taped it to the outside.

The next morning I missed the range and ended up lost out on the dikes. I ran into some helpful drug addicts coming home from a party. They offered to give me a ride to the range, and I accepted, but it turned out that my bicycle did not fit in their SUV, so we drove along with the person in the front passenger seat holding the handlebars through the window and me in the rear passenger seat holding the seat. It worked pretty well, despite there being about 8" of new snow from the previous night. I made it to the range, and had a good time despite people being a little bit weird about handing a firearm to someone who is wearing newspaper chaps and just got out of a car full of tweakers.

This is my roundabout way of saying that newspaper does make good insulation.

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Re: Expedient Winter Boots

Post by Mad Mike » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:14 pm

Mikeyboy wrote:
rpc wrote:During our recent cold snap, I decided it would be fun to go outside without shoes in subzero weather.

I made a pair of the expedient winter boots from Nuclear War Survival Skills and went for a walk around the yard. They were surprisingly comfortable and kept my feet warm. I was only outside for about 5 minutes with them, and even though I used only three sheets of newspaper per foot, and a thin grocery bag, they were quite adequate. I have details at my blog:

http://onetuberadio.com/2014/01/05/expe ... newspaper/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That is a good blog article. Cool and quirky find.

Funny, when I was a kid growing up , we didn't have fancy waterproof boots. It was basically a sock, a plastic bag, then another sock on top of that and then you put your sneakers on and if need be another plastic bag over your sneakers. The only thing I don't like about the plastic bag on the outside was that it was slippery. The plastic bag not only keeps your foot dry, but it traps heat.

Homeless people have been using newspaper as insulation for years, that is why you see homeless people laying on newspaper or cardboard to protect themselves from the cold ground. They will also stuff their clothing with newspaper.


Yep, and I have seen newspaper used in the attics of older homes; it works but leaves a bit to be desired for fireproofing. :ooh:

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Re: Expedient Winter Boots

Post by KnightoftheRoc » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:21 pm

Mad Mike wrote:
Mikeyboy wrote:
rpc wrote:During our recent cold snap, I decided it would be fun to go outside without shoes in subzero weather.

I made a pair of the expedient winter boots from Nuclear War Survival Skills and went for a walk around the yard. They were surprisingly comfortable and kept my feet warm. I was only outside for about 5 minutes with them, and even though I used only three sheets of newspaper per foot, and a thin grocery bag, they were quite adequate. I have details at my blog:

http://onetuberadio.com/2014/01/05/expe ... newspaper/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That is a good blog article. Cool and quirky find.

Funny, when I was a kid growing up , we didn't have fancy waterproof boots. It was basically a sock, a plastic bag, then another sock on top of that and then you put your sneakers on and if need be another plastic bag over your sneakers. The only thing I don't like about the plastic bag on the outside was that it was slippery. The plastic bag not only keeps your foot dry, but it traps heat.

Homeless people have been using newspaper as insulation for years, that is why you see homeless people laying on newspaper or cardboard to protect themselves from the cold ground. They will also stuff their clothing with newspaper.


Yep, and I have seen newspaper used in the attics of older homes; it works but leaves a bit to be desired for fireproofing. :ooh:
Blown-in Cellulose insulation is simply finely ground up newspapers that has been treated with a fire-proofing agent (I believe it's sodium silicate, but I'm not sure). When I was a kid, I used to help my dad take excess newsprint from the printer's to sell it for recycling.
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Re: Expedient Winter Boots

Post by Mad Mike » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:18 am

KnightoftheRoc wrote:
Mad Mike wrote:
Mikeyboy wrote:
rpc wrote:During our recent cold snap, I decided it would be fun to go outside without shoes in subzero weather.

I made a pair of the expedient winter boots from Nuclear War Survival Skills and went for a walk around the yard. They were surprisingly comfortable and kept my feet warm. I was only outside for about 5 minutes with them, and even though I used only three sheets of newspaper per foot, and a thin grocery bag, they were quite adequate. I have details at my blog:

http://onetuberadio.com/2014/01/05/expe ... newspaper/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That is a good blog article. Cool and quirky find.

Funny, when I was a kid growing up , we didn't have fancy waterproof boots. It was basically a sock, a plastic bag, then another sock on top of that and then you put your sneakers on and if need be another plastic bag over your sneakers. The only thing I don't like about the plastic bag on the outside was that it was slippery. The plastic bag not only keeps your foot dry, but it traps heat.

Homeless people have been using newspaper as insulation for years, that is why you see homeless people laying on newspaper or cardboard to protect themselves from the cold ground. They will also stuff their clothing with newspaper.


Yep, and I have seen newspaper used in the attics of older homes; it works but leaves a bit to be desired for fireproofing. :ooh:
Blown-in Cellulose insulation is simply finely ground up newspapers that has been treated with a fire-proofing agent (I believe it's sodium silicate, but I'm not sure). When I was a kid, I used to help my dad take excess newsprint from the printer's to sell it for recycling.


I'm familiar with that, but I am referring to is plain old newspaper folded up & laid between the joists.

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Re: Expedient Winter Boots

Post by TacAir » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:39 am

"I made it to the range, and had a good time despite people being a little bit weird about handing a firearm to someone who is wearing newspaper chaps and just got out of a car full of tweakers."

And people wonder why I don't like to visit Squarebanks...
Thanks for the laugh, I can totally see that goes on 'up there'.
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Re: Expedient Winter Boots

Post by Mikeyboy » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:37 am

Mad Mike wrote:
KnightoftheRoc wrote: Yep, and I have seen newspaper used in the attics of older homes; it works but leaves a bit to be desired for fireproofing. :ooh:
Blown-in Cellulose insulation is simply finely ground up newspapers that has been treated with a fire-proofing agent (I believe it's sodium silicate, but I'm not sure). When I was a kid, I used to help my dad take excess newsprint from the printer's to sell it for recycling.



I'm familiar with that, but I am referring to is plain old newspaper folded up & laid between the joists.
I seen it in some old houses in Philly. Probably depression-era old guys DIY stuff. I remember my Dad and I opening up an exterior wall of our kitchen and finding a bunch of old newspapers from the 1950's stuffed between the studs. As a kid I though it was cool and I kept some pieces of it to read. My dad of course was PO'ed.

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Re: Expedient Winter Boots

Post by Mad Mike » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:10 pm

Mikeyboy wrote:
Mad Mike wrote:
KnightoftheRoc wrote: Yep, and I have seen newspaper used in the attics of older homes; it works but leaves a bit to be desired for fireproofing. :ooh:
Blown-in Cellulose insulation is simply finely ground up newspapers that has been treated with a fire-proofing agent (I believe it's sodium silicate, but I'm not sure). When I was a kid, I used to help my dad take excess newsprint from the printer's to sell it for recycling.



I'm familiar with that, but I am referring to is plain old newspaper folded up & laid between the joists.
I seen it in some old houses in Philly. Probably depression-era old guys DIY stuff. I remember my Dad and I opening up an exterior wall of our kitchen and finding a bunch of old newspapers from the 1950's stuffed between the studs. As a kid I though it was cool and I kept some pieces of it to read. My dad of course was PO'ed.

Another thing to consider about old houses. It was common to cut a slot in a bathroom wall & dump your old double edged razor blades into it - REAL dangerous to reach inside the wall & get sliced up by a bunch of rusty razors... :ooh:

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