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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:44 am 
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What is EMP? The inflatables are coast guard approved, but was wondering. thx.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse

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Ugh..u douche. :lol:


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I'm pretty confident that the manual activation would still work (on the assumption that it is similar to the design of airline lifevests), but don't enough about the automatic activation to hazard a guess...I have checked with some sources, and the probability of EMP during PaddleFest is rated at "pretty freakin' low"...

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Just when you thought it was safe to go swimming....

http://www.instructables.com/answers/ho ... ke_an_EMP/

....well, ya never know.


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Foldable kayak here I come!~

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_t ... kayak&aq=f

I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the Folbot Cooper. :)


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Bster13 wrote:
Foldable kayak here I come!~

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_t ... kayak&aq=f

I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the Folbot Cooper. :)


Damn that's expensive! Here are some plans to build one yourself: http://www.vhcbsa.org/camping/kayak.pdf
Much cheaper in a similar style: http://www.tucktech.com/
Another Style: http://www.tackletour.com/reviewportabote.html
There's a lot of them... http://www.pakboats.com/ Neat idea!

Also, I've always bee a fan of the Adirondack Guide Boat myself... One of these days I'm going to build one.

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Yes, I've seen some of the build your own ones...I guess I don't want to invest the time, nor do I trust my craftsmanship vs. the Folbot Cooper out in the Long Island Sound! :p

I plan on using this Kayak during our ZS outings on flat water lakes as well as more choppy stuff around NYC, the Hudson River, Conn. coastline and actually anywhere...this things packs to the size of a backpack! :) So I'm more comfy with spending the $ on this type of thing.

Can u imagine this being your bug out bag and paddling from Manhattan to Connecticut up the coast during a disaster when the roads are filled with traffic? haha.


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If EMP thoughts qualify one as douchey.... sign me up! LOL I hadn't even thought about that tho, anyways I already ordered a regular vest. In camo, natch.

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I might could come, depending on if anyone wants to split a canoe.

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This sounds awesome. Do any of the river segments run fast and narrow enough to make life hard for a 17' sea kayak? I would expect not, or you wouldn't be bringing novices along, but it pays to make sure. There's an outside chance I might just build myself a solo canoe before then, too, and a trip like this could provide motivation.

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I might could come, depending on if anyone wants to split a canoe.

I probably won't be canoeing, but I could offer a rideshare.


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I'm planning on bringing a 16.5in foldable canoe, so it better work for your 17 footer or I'm in trouble, haha.


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Bunsen wrote:
This sounds awesome. Do any of the river segments run fast and narrow enough to make life hard for a 17' sea kayak? I would expect not, or you wouldn't be bringing novices along, but it pays to make sure. There's an outside chance I might just build myself a solo canoe before then, too, and a trip like this could provide motivation.

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I might could come, depending on if anyone wants to split a canoe.

I probably won't be canoeing, but I could offer a rideshare.

No fast segments, although some of them are pretty narrow and turn-tastic...



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I'm planning on bringing a 16.5in foldable canoe, so it better work for your 17 footer or I'm in trouble, haha.

I would advise getting a canoe longer than 16.5 inches...but that's just me... :wink:


I've gone through with a 18 foot canoe that is 38 inches wide, so it shouldn't be a problem...

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Whoops, I meant 16.5 foot foldable kayak, not canoe, thx.


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No fast segments, although some of them are pretty narrow and turn-tastic...
Turns I can handle. As long as I'm not being driven into them by a fast current, I should be able to get the kayak through anything a similar-length canoe can navigate.

Now for the other pressing issue: What to drink? Are glass containers allowed? Is any of the water around the campsites cold enough to get a beer down to drinking temperature (below 60°F is good enough for some ales)? Or am I just going to have to bring a plastic bottle of bourbon? :)


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Now for the other pressing issue: What to drink? Are glass containers allowed? Is any of the water around the campsites cold enough to get a beer down to drinking temperature (below 60°F is good enough for some ales)? Or am I just going to have to bring a plastic bottle of bourbon? :)

Glass containers are allowed, but I'll probably bring canned beer, to avoid the heartbreak and hassle of broken bottles...I will likely bring some booze in glass though...

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Count me in! Looks like I'll be splitting a rental with someone too, though I love the idea of a foldable one to paddle to locations north of New York City when necessary.

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Some of the inflatables are really tempting too, I keep going back and forth between that and a solid kayak (portability vs. performance). I think any inflatable would suck for kayaking with other folks in solid boats (like, most paddlers wouldn't even want you along), but I suspect for solo use, paddling with other inflatables, or a low-key trip like this paddlegeddon you'd be fine. The Dick's Clothing and Sporting goods in Poughkeepsie has an interesting inflatable kayak for sale, the Coleman Fastback- which is tagged $200 on the shelf. Meanwhile, a Potomac ES100 solid kayak is available there in a nice seaweed green for about the same price... but of course you need a means to attach it to your vehicle (and my Miata would be an obvious no-no).

For video of a whole bunch of those Coleman kayaks in action, look here (how's your Spanish?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfil6GRE3TI

Decisions, decisions...

For the cheapest inflatable that I'd have the guts to bring on this trip, dig this... http://www.amazon.com/Intex-68305E-Chal ... 356&sr=8-7 Just because I'd have the guts to try it, does NOT make it a good idea! If I go the solid-kayak route, I'm ordering one of these for those times I might want a boat in my Miata.

Don't forget you still need at a minimum, a paddle and a pfd... Dick's has a nice looking paddle for around $40.


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Count me in! Looks like I'll be splitting a rental with someone too, though I love the idea of a foldable one to paddle to locations north of New York City when necessary.

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Went to the doctor's yesterday. He poked my incisions, reaffirmed that I still have another 5 weeks in a sling (he tacked on some extra days for haaate). I specifically asked him about the trip, and he gave me one of those cockeyed looks and said "We'll see."

Yeah. So, if I come, I can't be doing some stuff. Swimming might even be out of the question. Someone feel like paddling me around while I drink, hurl insults at the other canoes, and/or cause general mischief? I mean we'll play it by ear, and I'll try to paddle as best I can...

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Sure Deschain. This way if u start messing with fire on the boat I'll just capsize the damn thing. :p


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Well my Folbot Cooper foldable kayak is being built as we speak and should be here some time at the end of next week. That will give me some time to figure out how to put it together and go for a few test paddles. :)

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I made a map of the area that we'll be paddling in, if anyone is interested in viewing or having one made for the trip...the site linked to below makes a nice waterproof map for $9.95...

http://www.mytopo.com/review.cfm?mytopoid=3539258A95

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I'm ready!!!

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Reading through this I'm seeing a definate trend towards solo watercraft.
Is it just that kayaks are so much sexier? :wink:

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Kayaks and kayakers like wine coolers...solo canoes are the way to go...just sayin'

Both I and my solo canoe like bourbon, sometimes bacon-infused bourbon! :twisted:

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