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Mark your Calendars!

ZSNY will be hosting their second annual summer camping trip way the hell up in the Adirondack Park of New York State, from the 7th to the 9th of August; it will be a canoe/kayak trip over flat water.

If you have a boat, that's great...if you don't you can either rent one, or try to hitch a ride with someone else.

Lots more information and links and maps and scratch&sniff to come, but I wanted to post this not to get your attention, and give us a starting point for planning.

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Fair warning: This trip will include frequent references to Deliverance, as well as constant singing of "I'm On a Boat" by the chapter Vice President.

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Well, I'm bringing my bow, so that makes me Burt Reynolds.
Y'all can battle it out for the rest of the cast Squeal like a pig.

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Fair warning: This trip will include frequent references to Deliverance, as well as constant singing of "I'm On a Boat" by the chapter Vice President.

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I get to be the messed up kid with the Banjo.

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Well, if you are thinking of moving into a house, and all the signs on the street every 50 feet warn in giant block letters: GUNS WILL BE TAKEN IF THERE IS MORE THAN 3 INCHES OF SNOW, you may want to re-think living there.


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PackRaft Time? :shock:


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Carry me, plebs! I'm not sure what kind of shape I'll be in for the trip, but I'm pretty dedicated to coming down, chilling with m homies, and playing with fire.

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Link to a webpage with more information about the ZSNY PaddleFest 2009

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Dang it! This is the same wknd as a demolition derby in Lebanon, CT I wanted to go to w/ y'all. :(


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Canoe or Raft? Decisions, decisions...

What are the portages looking like at the route?

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MikeM wrote:
Canoe or Raft? Decisions, decisions...

What are the portages looking like at the route?

-Mike

Full Disclosure of Raft/Portage/River Issues

The initial launch is a 75 yard carry from parking down a hill to the water.

There are 2 somewhat narrow stream segments, but as long as your raft isn't 8-10 feet wide, they shouldn't be a problem.

The portage from the second river segment to Follensby Clear Pond is about 200-300 yards (with an occasionally problematic exit from the water...my beagle dumped my canoe in this spot a couple of years ago).

There is a short river segment from Follensby Clear Pond into Upper Saranac Lake on Sunday, but boats less than 6 feet wide shouldn't have a problem (and if they do, the current is negligible and the river shallow enough to walk the boat if needed).

Upper Saranac Lake can have a headwind at times, and is open water paddling, but we can hide in the wind-shadows of islands and curving shorelines as needed.

The boat launch at the north end of Upper Saranac Lake has a ramp such that you could back your vehicle down into the water to pick up your boat if you so desired.

I wouldn't paddle a raft on this trip, as it is better suited to a canoe or kayak. That being said, we're only paddling a total of about 12 miles in the 2 days (that's not counting side-trips or screwing around), and if you don't mind a workout, we're not going to leave anyone behind.

I hope that answers your questions...if not, please fire away...this is a great trip, and I think that a flotilla would be fun, but I don't want anyone unhappy because I under-explained something...

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Heck Jamie, you had me at "ZSNY camping trip" :lol: Seriously, I gave myself the weekend off as soon as I read the first post.

Canoe it is then.

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I just called the boat livery place near(ish) the trip, and their boats and kayaks all rent for $24 per day...we could make a ninja run as early as they open on Saturday, unless people want to pick them up Friday and be ready to go Saturday morning for paddling with coffee...

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How do people get the rental boats back to Fleetwood when we end in Saranac? Free Pickup?


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What if it rains? If it raining and no thunder, we would befine with sealed off kayaks...canoes may be another story. Do we want to say Kayaks only?


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Bster13 wrote:
How do people get the rental boats back to Fleetwood when we end in Saranac? Free Pickup?
We'll have to car-top the boats from the rental place to Floodwood, and then back to the rental place from the boat launch on Upper Saranac...not big distances...just some shuttling...


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What if it rains? If it raining and no thunder, we would be fine with sealed off kayaks...canoes may be another story. Do we want to say Kayaks only?
I have canoed through some amazing rainstorms, and the worst on that I ever paddled in required bailing out after 1/2 hour, and then again every once in a while...I'm a canoe-guy, and will rock a canoe no matter what, but everyone should make their own choice...

Here's a blog entry from that day...

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Will people be rocki ng life vests? Where be the ultralights one?! :mrgreen:


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Will people be rocki ng life vests? Where be the ultralights one?! :mrgreen:


Prolly the same spot as the CADPAT ones. If I come, I'm bringing a vest. No getting killed on accident for me!

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Bster13 wrote:
Will people be rocki ng life vests? Where be the ultralights one?! :mrgreen:


Everyone is required by law to have a NYS approved floatation device with them in their boat by law...whether or not you were it should be based on your swimming ability and the fact that we will often be in deep water, but will not face any rapids...Rentals from Hickcock's Livery includes paddles and lifejackets...

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MikeM wrote:
Well, I'm bringing my bow, so that makes me Burt Reynolds.
Y'all can battle it out for the rest of the cast Squeal like a pig.

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Since i am in the heavy side - COUNT ME OUT - unless someone has a chasity belt i can borrow!!


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No packaraft for me it turns out, just not going to use it to it's fullest...opting for an inflatable or collapsible kayak. Stay tuned!


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They got inflatable pfds that blow up when they hit the water. They're pretty light and compact. Just looking for a decent price on one... otherwise it's a regular vest methinks.

One of the inflatables... http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/standard-pod-wrapped.jsp?id=0038078&navCount=7&parentId=cat21312&masterpathid=&navAction=push&cmCat=perf&parentType=index&indexId=cat21312&rid=

A vest I like... http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0017607943068a&navCount=3&podId=0017607943068&parentId=cat21312&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&cmCat=perf&catalogCode=IK&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat21312&hasJS=true


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Will people be rocki ng life vests? Where be the ultralights one?! :mrgreen:

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Mine is like the second one that you linked to...if I need my lifevest, I don't want to count on being able to pull the ripcord, and I don't want mine to blow up if it falls out of the boat and into the water...

Jamie

ETA: I have a raunchy alcoholic concoction for the PaddleFest, so everyone can relax now...if falls somewhere along the spectrum between Bad Medicine and Bacon Bourbon... :twisted:

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nfa wrote:
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Mine is like the second one that you linked to...if I need my lifevest, I don't want to count on being able to pull the ripcord, and I don't want mine to blow up if it falls out of the boat and into the water...

Jamie

Those inflatables are actually really good. They were designed by a company that started at RPI. I know of the folks and the system is virtually fail-safe. I wonder if it's EMP proof, though...

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ETA: I have a raunchy alcoholic concoction for the PaddleFest, so everyone can relax now...if falls somewhere along the spectrum between Bad Medicine and Bacon Bourbon... :twisted:

I am strangely intrigued by this...

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What is EMP? The inflatables are coast guard approved, but was wondering. thx.


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