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Boats.. boats... boats!

Post by the_klenzer » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:18 am

I love boats and for me (since I live near the ocean) they are the perfect zompocalypse BOVs.

So here is a thread with some of my favorite choices of boats that I'd pick, based on ones I could actually operate (with help). Not all are affordable of course, but that's part of the fun.

Yes... I waste a lot of work hours on Yachtworld.com. :)

For boat lovers, feel free to add your own.


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125' schooner
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Post by the_klenzer » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:34 am

This is moored at the marina a block from my house... If I was going to "liberate" a boat during a major outbreak, it would be first on my list.
Hope they keep the gas tank full. :)

115' McQueen
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This is moored in the marina across from where the above yacht is.

86' long range trawler
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Post by SamuraiBobX26 » Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:21 am

I like boats myself. I have never driven anything that big and I bet it would be a blast to try. Hopefully somebody will post more boats.
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Post by Tyler Durden » Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:01 am

Those things strike me as pirate bait.... also not very easy on fuel.

If I had to choose a bug out boat, I'd go with something like this: http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boat_l ... p?boatid=4

In reality, if I were to buy another boat, I'd probably get something like this: http://www.maritimeboats.com/overvw/1890.html

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Post by Erik » Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:34 am

Klenzer, I have always wanted to live on a yacht.

I want this one.

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I want it anchored right here:

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Too bad they're so darned expensive. If I win the lottery, then you can quit your job and travel the world with me on my boat. If you win the lottery, I can travel on your boat. Deal? :D

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Post by Jamie » Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:52 am

I have a fleet of canoes and kayaks, and that is as big as the nautical world allows me to go these days
(by order of the NCWA, 9/7/1996 world conference in Trinidad)...

I like my boats for fleeing the scene if Zombies walk the earth to one of the gazillions of islands in my
part of the world, loaded to the gills with food and family...my boats are also highly portable...

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If you guys do win the lottery, I will be happy to swab decks or cook for space on board when the zombies start shambling...if you'll have me...
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Post by the_klenzer » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:48 am

Tyler Durden wrote:Those things strike me as pirate bait.... also not very easy on fuel.

Sometimes simpler is better.... and simpler is always easier to maintain.


Have you considered that perhaps... *I* will be the pirate? :)

The power yachts are horrible on fuel, yes... but remember that they have 1,000-5,000 gallon fuel tanks with a 2,000-5,000 mile range!

I'm looking at the boat as a long term living solution rather than an escape vehicle.


Erik, we're uh... in the same boat! (couldn't resist the pun, sorry)
If we could win a big enough lottery (or maybe several small ones), th8 289' Maltese Falcon would do the trick... for only $179,000,000! :D

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(I'll post my *realistic* personal boat choices when I'm done daydreaming...)
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Post by Tom976 » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:50 am

For 4 people bugging out, 2 adults and 2 teenagers, what would you reccomend for bugging out in the Fox River?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_River_%28Illinois%29

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Post by the_klenzer » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:40 pm

Tom976 wrote:For 4 people bugging out, 2 adults and 2 teenagers, what would you reccomend for bugging out in the Fox River?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_River_%28Illinois%29

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Minimum, a 14' craft will move you and your family to safety. A RIB is light and can be emergency launched easier than a standard craft.
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Preferably, at least a 24' craft, still trailerable, will give your family a lot more protection, as well as a temporary BOL should your primary one not work out.
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Post by Tom976 » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:57 pm

Any reccomended brands?


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Post by the_klenzer » Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:25 pm

Bayliner. It is the Ford of boats. Relatively cheap... moderatly reliable... not overly fancy, but practical... parts everywhere when something breaks.

Arguably, the manufacturer of the motor is more important than the boat builder.
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Bayliner?????

Post by Wetwork » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:10 pm

I don't want to make anyone unhappy but I'll tell you a fact...I have towed more broken Bayliners back to the dock than any other brand. The hulls are so thin that you can see candlelight through the hull from the inside out. I've been in the maritime search and rescue field for 19 years now. I drive boats for a living. Growing up in Eastern Oregon I was told Bayliners were the greatest...all the rich kids folks had'em. Well I'm here to say since I joined the CG back in 1989 that is the boat I've saved the most. I would try for a SeaRay, SeaSwirl if I was on a budget. Or go for a old school classic. My dream boat I'm hunting for right now is a 1959 Dorsett Catalina...they are cheap considering under $3K and pure cool!They built these things before they knew just how much fiberglass was needed to use to make a boat safe...its crazy thick he-he...they hulls on these things will out last us all. Plus you could customize it without and not feel bad because it was cheap to buy. -WWImage
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Post by Tom976 » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:49 pm

What about cuddies?
Or those boats with the a mini-house under the drivers place?
Like from the Sahara movie?


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Post by the_klenzer » Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:41 am

Wetwork wrote:I don't want to make anyone unhappy but I'll tell you a fact...I have towed more broken Bayliners back to the dock than any other brand.


Counterpoint - Bayliner probably outsells every other manufacturer in the small boat range by 5x, so by the numbers you should see 5x more broken. Just a thought.
I agree though, they are not the best built boats, but they are affordable.

Searays are sexy! I love them too, but they are a big step up in price. If I had the money, for sure I'd spend it on one. That Dorsett is pretty cool, especially if you got it in the classic paint!
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Post by the_klenzer » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:34 pm

Found a bargain for a ZombiePAW solution.

As long as the mechanics are good and you can get a crew, this is a deal:

151' tug conversion - $465,000
Sleeps 22 people long term.
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Post by velojym » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:40 pm

PAW, I'm all about the sails. While I plan to have an aux motor, I've never really been very interested in enormously thirsty powerboats.
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Post by EJ » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:17 pm

I'm the proud owner of a West Wight Potter 19 sailboat, and I really like it. I can (and have) lived on it for a week or more. Google it. Sail is nice for the PAW since you don't need much fuel, just wind. Mine already has solar.

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Post by Hawk » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:18 pm

I think the best way to bug out is on water. I could get to the Mississippi in about 15 minutes (not sure though, in a PAW situation), alas, I haven't a boat.
I think the best system to have (and I think I mentioned this last year in another waterborne thread) would be a house boat per family. Rediculously huge if you want, but as long as it's big enough for your family that's all that matters. The reason that I don't think the size would matter, is that the second part of this system, would be a canoe, or other small paddleboat. You could use the paddleboat to get back to land to do your hunting and gathering, and the water would act as a border for your anchored home. I think this would work best on a body of water like Lake Ozarks, or the great lakes, but probably not the ocean.
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Post by PHMadness » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:48 pm

If the lotto comes my way, this is one of my top choices, but there are so many badass boats out there.
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Post by velojym » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:35 pm

The sailboat I posted has a long, shallow keel.
Since we're not far from the AR river... we can hope to get it there and put it in, and wait out the initial frenzy.
While the aux engine would normally be a small outboard, I'd consider a tiny diesel if I could find one that worked well for the purpose. I'd also mount a couple of small solar panels and a windgen to power a radio and more if we can spare the juice. As the river is sometimes fairly swift, I wonder how well I could set up an underwater turbine, which the current could spin while the boat is anchored in mid-river.

I'd even consider keeping it in sight of the Blazer, and using it as a zed-shelter until the river bank clears. If it doesn't, we can cut loose and head downriver.
...barring any big obstructions, that is...
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Post by raptor » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:44 pm

I love boats! I have always loved boats!.

This is my boat. It is a Grand Banks 36. It carries 425 gallons of diesel fuel, 225 gallons of fresh water. It has a single John Deere 130 hp diesel engine and a 7.5 kw generator. It cruises at a whopping 7.5 to 7.8 knots (1,500 to 1,600 rpm) and WOT it will hit 8.4 knots (2,400 rpm). However, even with thw generator running it burns only 2.5 to 3 gph of diesel. So it is cheap to run. It will cruise over 1,000 miles before I need fuel.

The single screw has a protected skeg and even fully loaded I draw no more than 4 feet of water so I can get into some thin water without too much to worry about. It is slow but I keep it close to my cruising grounds in Florida so speed is not an issue. It is very comfortable for 2 to 4 people.

This is the 16th boat (excluding small boats) I have owned. They range from 19 ft sailboats through 44 foot sailboats and various size powerboats including Boston Whalers, Searays and of course this boat.

My wife and I can easily handle and cruise on this boat.

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I was at the Palm Beach Boat Show 2 weeks ago (on business, not pleasure) and saw the 67 foot Burger at this link. I spent a few hours on it looking it over carefully. I am very tempted to buy this one. It may be boat number 17.

http://www.burgerboat.com/Brokerage/ind ... N=31095969

Note the Vessel's current name.

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Post by unkieford » Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:30 am

not being 'boat wealthy' I have to stick with my US Yacht 18 footer. It's small, but moves well even in the lightest breeze. I can step the mast with no help, and there isn't much on it to break.
The only downside is it's kinda ugly.
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Post by zoom1200 » Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:13 am

I have owned a bombi 16
lazer
catalina 22
catalina 30

one day I would love to have a island Packet 37

http://www.ipy.com/ShowBoat.asp?InteriorLayout=1&bEarly=0&sBoat=IP370

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Post by Tactical Badger » Thu May 01, 2008 3:40 pm

zoom1200 wrote:I have owned a bombi 16
lazer
catalina 22
catalina 30

one day I would love to have a island Packet 37

http://www.ipy.com/ShowBoat.asp?InteriorLayout=1&bEarly=0&sBoat=IP370



Mmmmmmmmmmm....Island Packet.....I've lusted over Island Packets for a long time.
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