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Re: Oil filters!

Post by warlock4u » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:34 am

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Vicarious_Lee wrote: I run Amsoil in my car, and the factory Subaru filters, which aren't that expensive and come with a crush washer taped to every filter.

I am unsure which motor you are running, but be aware that subaru changed the filter from the old good black style, to a new blue honeywell (aka fram) filter.

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OOH! I didn't know that! I'm running a 2002 WRX with the EJ20 turbo. I bought a bunch of filters about 2 years ago and still have 5 left. Just checked, they're all black!

Should I now sell them to retard ricers as Genuine JDM OMG WTF BBQ vintage Subaru STi Evo WRX limited edition pre-ban antique racing filterz?
Same here. Ive been using the purolator pure 1 filters, and grab crush washers from the dealer as needed.

You can try, and you might even have some luck, but I doubt the profit margins are worth the effort of putting up with the standard ricer crowd.
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Re: Oil filters!

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Re: Oil filters!

Post by surt » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:04 am

I only used Mobile1 on my cars. I know friends that swear by K&N but that's mostly because of the kick-ass nut on the bottom.

Honestly - you get what you pay for. If you buy a cheap ass FRAM then you're going to get a cheap ass oil filter. Cars are one of those things where if you want it to run right then you have to spend money. Cutting corners, in the long run, will cost you.
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Re: Oil filters!

Post by Ed_Blackthorne » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:26 am

O'reilly's good line of oil filters are also made by Wix.
A Fram is the only brand of filter I've ever had fail me-
it grenaded under my street racer.
I now use Wix (or reboxes) or AC/Delco filters, and my
newer rigs get synthetic oil, as well. Both GMC's have
over 200,000 miles on good filters with synthetic oil.
If you're serious about engine life, use quality consumables.

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Re: Oil filters!

Post by TheLastRifleMan » Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:39 pm

I have to say this has been a very informative thread. Nice to see everyone getting along as well.

My local Auto Zone has Mobile 1 filters on sale about every other month if you buy 5 quarts of oil. It still is less then taking it in to a local oil change chain store.

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Re: Oil filters!

Post by Oneswunk » Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:11 pm

I just switched from Mobil One to amsoil and its worked for me. Though I have bin wanting to try a K&N filter.

This reminds me I need to change my transfer case oil.
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Re: Oil filters!

Post by Tireur » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:00 pm

In the US the best bargain in oil filters are Wal-Mart's Supertech, made by Champion (same quality as Purolator & Mobil 1).
Don't get them in Canuckistan, fall back is indeed NAPA Gold.

Amsoil is the biggest overhyped scam in all of oil.
Instead of Amsoil, Mobil 1, et al go for full synth blue bottle Shell Rotella, best bargain in all of oildom.
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Re: Oil filters!

Post by Tperkins » Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:54 pm

rhi wrote: I use a K&N on my quarter mile/muscle car since having the nut welded on the end of the can makes it easier to spin off around the headers.
Thats how it is on my Dakota. The filter is between the headers and the frame, the nut makes it easier to get off.

Just did my first oil change about 800 miles ago. K&N Performance Gold + 5 quarts of Royal Purple 10W30. It had a Motorcraft filter on it when I changed it, but it was really well taken care of so I'm gonna guess they had full synthetic in it.
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Re: Oil filters!

Post by Tater Raider » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:43 am

Here are a couple pages I found to add some more fuel for the fire:

Top 5 Oil Filters
Detailed Filter Information and Real World Testing

I'm thinking Puralator PureONE or Mobil 1 Extended Performance are the 2 best based on the info provided with a toss-up between the two as to which is better.

K&N isn't on either list so you are going to have to take a good hard look at how it stacks up. Also you cannot go wrong with going to a mechanic and asking him or her what he or she uses.

I hope that is helpful.

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Re: Oil filters!

Post by Lonely Raven » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:11 am

Tireur wrote: et al go for full synth blue bottle Shell Rotella, best bargain in all of oildom.

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Re: Oil filters!

Post by eugene » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:54 pm

Tater Raider wrote: Also you cannot go wrong with going to a mechanic and asking him or her what he or she uses.
Actually you can. Mechanics are humans too so there are good ones, bad ones and average ones, and they can and do make mistakes and give bad advice. The mechanic my FIL goes to thinks when you rotate tires you swap them front to back and not in the X pattern lie your supposed to. This it because back in the 50's when radial tires were a new invention they were unidirectional and swapping sides would tear them apart, but thy fixed that and now they recommend the standard X pattern. My FIL still insists I do mine wrong and will ruin them despite me showing the X pattern in the owners manual for my truck, the page on tirerack.com and BFG's page showing (the tires I have now) the X pattern, him and his mechanic got stuck on one detail an can't believe things changed and now do it wrong. I put over 60k on the stock tires that came with my truck, gave the,m to my father who used them one summer then sold them so someone he worked with because I rotate them properly (in the X pattern). So if your going to ask a mechanic then don't just ask one, ask multiple.
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Re: Oil filters!

Post by Tater Raider » Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:30 am

eugene wrote:
Tater Raider wrote: Also you cannot go wrong with going to a mechanic and asking him or her what he or she uses.
Actually you can. Mechanics are humans too so there are good ones, bad ones and average ones, and they can and do make mistakes and give bad advice. So if your going to ask a mechanic then don't just ask one, ask multiple.
I should have said one you trust but even so, I stand corrected. Thank you!

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Re: Oil filters!

Post by Hiroshima_Morphine » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:51 am

meatshieldChris wrote:Of the major brands, who don't you trust? I've heard reports of Fram oil filters failing if you extend your oil change interval by a bit. Can anyone back that up? Other comments?
I have always used Fram- or wallyworld/Supertech. I have never had any issues with either, I've heard people say that Fram are absolute crap, and maybe they were once upon a time. But I've also heard the same thing about Beretta and aluminum and steel case ammo. Guess what I shoot and have never had any problems with?

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Re: Oil filters!

Post by Dooms » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:51 pm

Put me down as another NAPA Gold guy. Millions of miles/hours with no issues.

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Re: Oil filters!

Post by Halfapint » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:10 am

I'm a princess when it comes to oil and filters, when I was in the Honda game it was only royal purple and K&N filters. Now with the Audi I only use Bosch, and for my F350 it's the Ford factory filter.

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Re: Oil filters!

Post by Beowolf » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:26 pm

I think I'd qualify as a filter princess, too. Brand name for the extra few bucks. Have seen some pretty disturbing studies of the bargain brands, complete with cross sections, restriction, and oil analysis...

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Re: Oil filters!

Post by DEPTHCHARGE » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:08 am

Another interesting site of a fellow doing his own research. It's slanted towards motorcycles but there's lots of information and comparisons under the REFERENCE and HOW IT WORKS & DIY headings. www.calsci.com (no affiliation btw)
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Re: Oil filters!

Post by JeeperCreeper » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:49 am

There are a lot of cool videos on youtube of people cuting filters open to show which ones are good. If I remember, a few years ago the consensus was that certain Purolators were the best bang for the buck and Fram sucked.

Fram uses cardboard for their endcaps and have been since the 60's I think. I used to buy Fram. Sometimes I still do but I also change my oil very regularly. I prefer to get Mopar filters or Purolators because with a coupon or sale, they are the same price or a dollar more. When it comes to my engine, I can spare a dollar every couple thousand miles.

So you can use Fram and other crappy filters, as long as you aren't running them for over 5k miles. Even then, you'll probably be OK. Oh, and I had a family friend who worked at an oil filter factory (Fram I think). He claims there is no difference between the "high mileage" or "extended protection" or whatever other thing they use for internals. I can't confirm nor deny that, but it's all marketing from what I have been told.
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Re: Oil filters!

Post by Murgatroy » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:52 pm

K&N Filters and Mobil 1 Full Synthetic. Been running my Mustang on that since I brought her home. She will roll 80k soon. Sooner if I drove her anymore. I just switched over to the Mobil 1 Full Synthetic High Mileage today for her oil change. We have a road trip coming up, so she needed some love.

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