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... comes off the production line this week.
The last of Jaguar Land Rover's classic Defenders will roll off the production line this week, ending 68 years of production - does this mean the carmaker's best off-road days are behind it?
Picture a Land Rover and you might imagine a box-shaped green vehicle etching desert sand or surging through floodwater.
It's a nostalgic vision of a car whose practicality is legendary - and according to motoring journalist Quentin Willson one that is redolent of a bygone era.
"The world has changed. We don't have the same needs as in the post-war era when it was developed," he said.
The Defender has evolved but JLR said it had essentially "changed very little during its lifetime", while vehicle standards had "changed dramatically".
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It'll be missed.
(It's a shame it never managed even 1980s standards of reliability, but you can't have everything.)
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I mentioned it in another thread - but when I was 17 we went to the Detroit auto show and they had a 1985 Defender 90 in screaming yellow. Sticker price was $25,000. I couldn't believe how cool this thing was. Had I been out of college working at the time I would have owned one....