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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:23 pm 
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Only just skimmed, but on the used market, I'm a big fan of the Nissan Frontier for a truck, and the Kia Sorento for SUV.

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For Frontiers, check the radiator/tranny issue. Easy fix on a great car, just make sure it was done.

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BTW Jeep Grand Cherokee has plenty of nooks and crannies for prep supplies/tools.
Here's an example of mine that I started a while back.


easily blends into spare tire cavity
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipN-XV1d_CCUUgqStOSYrR6Btwgpc5WG5RKnrol_89IU35sboHpta3tS86rIvomKjQ?key=MExiTncxcnpBN3JOTEdFcG1UWjltY0xWak1PSEhR

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JackBauer wrote:
BTW Jeep Grand Cherokee has plenty of nooks and crannies for prep supplies/tools.
Here's an example of mine that I started a while back.


easily blends into spare tire cavity
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipN-XV1d_CCUUgqStOSYrR6Btwgpc5WG5RKnrol_89IU35sboHpta3tS86rIvomKjQ?key=MExiTncxcnpBN3JOTEdFcG1UWjltY0xWak1PSEhR

Nice. I assume that's a full sized spare?


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KJ4VOV wrote:
Nice. I assume that's a full sized spare?


I believe it's better than a donut but not a full size spare. The only time I had a flat I repaired the tire at the spot. Glad I had a quality air compressor,tire plug kit and rubber cement in tool bag. It also provided the opportunity to read the OEM manual and locate the appropriate jack points on the chassis

I need to update the spare tire area /cargo space pictures. I've equipped and optimized the car BOB and preps quite a bit.

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JackBauer wrote:
KJ4VOV wrote:
Nice. I assume that's a full sized spare?


I believe it's better than a donut but not a full size spare.

That's something you might want to take a closer look at so you'll know exactly what your options are in the event of a damaged tire. A full sized spare would be ideal, as there would then be no worries about possible damage to the diff or transfer case caused by greatly different circumferences. the smaller the difference, the better, and the further you can go before major damage is likely.


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Just my 2 cents. I would stay away from Jeep. I had a 2003 Grand Cherokee that was nothing but problems. The wrangler is cool I will give you that but even the 4 door version is tight on space. I fit in one but just barely ( I am 6'4 ) if you get four people in a wrangler plus cat crates you won't have any space left. You might look at a Toyota FJ (has rear swinging door for back passengers)or what about the Ford transit or Nissan Pathfiner?
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The Twizzler wrote:
Just my 2 cents. I would stay away from Jeep. I had a 2003 Grand Cherokee that was nothing but problems. The wrangler is cool I will give you that but even the 4 door version is tight on space. I fit in one but just barely ( I am 6'4 ) if you get four people in a wrangler plus cat crates you won't have any space left. You might look at a Toyota FJ (has rear swinging door for back passengers)or what about the Ford transit or Nissan Pathfiner?

The FJ is no longer in production, difficult to find at reasonable prices, and about as cramped as the Wrangler, and only has two doors. The Ford Transit is, of course, a possibility but I'm not impressed by their inline 5 cylinder diesel. If I'm going to go with an inline diesel I'd rather have a Cummins.


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KJ4VOV wrote:
The Twizzler wrote:
Just my 2 cents. I would stay away from Jeep. I had a 2003 Grand Cherokee that was nothing but problems. The wrangler is cool I will give you that but even the 4 door version is tight on space. I fit in one but just barely ( I am 6'4 ) if you get four people in a wrangler plus cat crates you won't have any space left. You might look at a Toyota FJ (has rear swinging door for back passengers)or what about the Ford transit or Nissan Pathfiner?

The FJ is no longer in production, difficult to find at reasonable prices, and about as cramped as the Wrangler, and only has two doors. The Ford Transit is, of course, a possibility but I'm not impressed by their inline 5 cylinder diesel. If I'm going to go with an inline diesel I'd rather have a Cummins.


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I agree with you 150%. Unfortunately, my bank account just laughs hysterically at the idea. And I do mean hysterically.

Definitely a bit of hysteria in that laugh.


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Beowolf wrote:
Now, I'm biased here.

Jeep Wrangler Unlimited will get you your must haves. Every last one of them.

But, again, I'm biased. I know there are better vehicles out there. But it's a viable alternative.

Took a second look at this and, while it would tow our trailer it would be very marginal. They only offer up to a class II / flat four pin hitch and I really need the class III / 7 pin connection.


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Well, ya didn't mention that as a requirement. ;)

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Updates in the first post.


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After much thought and debate (and investigating discounts and pricing) I think we'll be going with the 2017 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum edition, in blue. I think it gives us the best bang for the buck, especially with the Federal employee discount (wife is a federal officer) and military vet discount (which can be combined). While I would have loved the Trailhawk, and taking it on trips up into the "Jeep Only" areas of the Shenandoah mountains, I need to be realistic and admit that the extra $10K it would have cost, combined with the uncomfortable seats, made it a "no-go" for us.





At least for now. :mrgreen:

I'll leave the thread open and post pictures in a few months when we actually make the purchase, but please, feel free to still make suggestions on alternatives. It ain't over until it's over, as Yogi would say.


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The pathfinder's all use CVT transmissions. This is not a good choice for towing as the trans will not tolerate heat. They get better mileage but if there are hills where you live you will have problems. If they start to overheat the trans will limit your speed to around 45 mph to save the transmission. This is extremely annoying. They are also costly to replace (lets be real you don't fix these transmissions you just replace them)

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The Twizzler wrote:
The pathfinder's all use CVT transmissions. This is not a good choice for towing as the trans will not tolerate heat. They get better mileage but if there are hills where you live you will have problems. If they start to overheat the trans will limit your speed to around 45 mph to save the transmission. This is extremely annoying. They are also costly to replace (lets be real you don't fix these transmissions you just replace them)

I understand this, and while there are a few hills around here that I'd be towing up, and a lot more getting from here (VA) to the family home in Idaho (some little things called the Rockies), our regular trailer is only 3,500 lbs loaded, while the tow rating given is 6,000, so I'm banking that the reduced load will make a difference. Plus, we don't tow very often. With that being said, yeah, the tranny is a real weak point, and a major strike against the Pathfinder, but I'm looking at this from the POV that any replacement for the next 5 years will be under warranty, and that hopefully if they have a shit ton of problems with them they'll come up with a redesign during that 5 years that will cover us. I'm also planning on installing a better transmission fluid cooler than stock, provided I can get assurance, in writing, from the dealer that it will not void the warranty.

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