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I understand that completely. Honestly, for that (and if you were really hung up on having it be a Mystery Ranch product) I would almost go with something big and empty like a NICE 7500 BVS. If anything, it would discourage you from loading the thing up and trying to hit the trail for SAR or Wilderness med, and use it only for load hauling to and from base camp. EBAY even has MR pullpacks on sale (color coded or IV) that you could use for some standardized modularization.Parameducated wrote:Im getting into USAR, and likely some true contract wilderness work. So the idea of one profoundly gigantic ruck that holds everything (up to and including the aforementioned attending) is appealing. I dont actually plan on carrying it much, other than rucking it to wherever it will live. For everything else, theres conterra.
Dude killer bag. That looks more like an ER/ICU in a bag than a STOMP II could....now you're making me want an ALICE pack modified to serve my bag (obviously not my car kit, but the disaster medical bag....the car kit is big enough as it is, and is filling out a 5.11 ALS backpack pretty well.)VXMerlinXV wrote:I have something large, but probably not as baller as an SAER pack. It's an ALICE that was heavily modified, reportedly by Tactical Tailor for a PJ. I don't know how true that is, but it's a solidly built pack. (If anybody has any additional info on this pack, I'd love some history) Note that the load-out shown is simply for perspective of scale. I load it specifically for whatever I'm doing, and keep it empty otherwise.
From what I can tell, it's got the 5 pocket modification, where pocket #2 and #4 are standard small zip pockets above the normal ALICE pocket. There's also a zippered opening in the bottom to access the main compartment, and a pouch under that that will take a compressed sleeping bag, blankets, tarps, or a roll up litter.
Pockets #1 and #5 are elongated and set to take O2 bottles. There're two retention straps, and pockets that will fit standard NRBs or Nasal canulas. I've also rigged a 3 liter camelback in one of these pockets, since there's no ready made hydration compatability
The #3 pocket is set up with three divided compartments (I added a galls pull bag to each to show size) and three organizer flaps. The large mesh side flap holds a large trauma dressing/burn sheet, and the two smaller mesh compartments fit 4x4 or 5x9 with room to spare.
This is the bottom compartment I mentioned earlier.
I do not know much about the SAER pack, but shy of trying to bring out an entire OR, there's nothing I could think to pack that I couldn't fit in this ALICE. Heck, a loaded STOMP II fits in the main compartment if you want to just go full blown silly. The only things left I would change would be to send it back to TT for a claymore pocket on the flap. If you look, there's a set of fastex buckles on the top, my guess would be for a smaller aid bag, which I don't have a need for, so I would prefer to use the space for further storage. I also would eventually like to upgrade the carry system, either with a NICE yolk, or an HSGI Ali pad, if I can find one.
My point being, for what you'll probably pay for an out of production mystery ranch pack, I'm betting you could get something built to your exact specifications.
Thank you, I was really lucky to come across it. I would definitely recommend going this route for anyone looking for anything bigger than a STOMP II. I eventually want to put it on an upgraded frame/carry system.weatherdude wrote: Dude killer bag. That looks more like an ER/ICU in a bag than a STOMP II could....now you're making me want an ALICE pack modified to serve my bag (obviously not my car kit, but the disaster medical bag....the car kit is big enough as it is, and is filling out a 5.11 ALS backpack pretty well.)
Yeah, please follow up with pics, order info, etc.Parameducated wrote:I found my aid bag. Its custom, bright red, excessively large, and far too awesome to describe prior to its arrival. Prepare yourselves, for the most ridiculous aid bag the world has ever seen.
Or, better yet, a thread of it loaded out for us to drool over/critique prnVXMerlinXV wrote:Yeah, please follow up with pics, order info, etc.Parameducated wrote:I found my aid bag. Its custom, bright red, excessively large, and far too awesome to describe prior to its arrival. Prepare yourselves, for the most ridiculous aid bag the world has ever seen.
Well, I am incorporating the side pocket design with tank retention straps. But... NahVXMerlinXV wrote:Man, I should get a commission.
I'm curious, how much gear/supplies do you think you'll need to bring on a SAR operation?Parameducated wrote:Im getting into USAR, and likely some true contract wilderness work. So the idea of one profoundly gigantic ruck that holds everything (up to and including the aforementioned attending) is appealing. I dont actually plan on carrying it much, other than rucking it to wherever it will live. For everything else, theres conterra.
I picked up my bag as an option for carrying a more extensive array of medical supplies as well as all of my hiking or camping gear. Not so much for search and rescue, but as a more extensive medical support option on longer hikes with larger groups.JohnE wrote: I'm curious, how much gear/supplies do you think you'll need to bring on a SAR operation?
I have no working SAR experience but I've known and worked with numerous SAR volunteers and they would never plan to bring enough medical gear to need the sort of packs I've seen in this thread.
What sort of operations require that much gear in the field?
This is a really solid point.JohnE wrote:I guess what I'm not understanding is why you'd need a medical bag to transport supplies. Seems like any old backpack would carry the supplies just as easy and at a fraction of the cost. Especially if you'll be using Conterra bags for the actual medical work.
I use Pelican cases to store and transport my gear and supplies via my vehicle and once I'm at my work location I use trauma bags to work out of.
To each their own I guess.
It's really a matter of personal preference, that's all. If I'm flying with gear, or carrying enough to warrant a pallet, etc, then I use hard cases. And the cost isn't really a factor. I'm getting reimbursed for the packJohnE wrote:I guess what I'm not understanding is why you'd need a medical bag to transport supplies. Seems like any old backpack would carry the supplies just as easy and at a fraction of the cost. Especially if you'll be using Conterra bags for the actual medical work.
I use Pelican cases to store and transport my gear and supplies via my vehicle and once I'm at my work location I use trauma bags to work out of.
To each their own I guess.
