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Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by moab » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:26 pm

Does anyone make trauma sheers with an adjustable nut and bolt? That seems to be the most likely place of fail for me with trauma sheers around the house. They bend open on the rivet and can't be tightened back up.
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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by zXzGrifterzXz » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:03 pm

The only ones I can think of is the Leatherman Raptor Medical Shears, usually I consider shears to be a consumable. Normally by the time the center pin is having issues they are already dull as crap and I am ready to toss them anyway.
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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by moab » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:10 pm

zXzGrifterzXz wrote:The only ones I can think of is the Leatherman Raptor Medical Shears, usually I consider shears to be a consumable. Normally by the time the center pin is having issues they are already dull as crap and I am ready to toss them anyway.
I cut an Ace bandage with mine last week. Like the whole roll. I needed a 6 inch wide one to be like 4 inches. But it bent the scissors so far apart at the rivet that they suck now. It's the only pair I carry in my INCH/BOB. And got to thinking there has to be a better tool. At least one where I can tighten that little bolt and nut like on professional scissors. I mean I could add one myself. But would prefer something engineered that way from the get go. Not really interested in the Leatherman shears either. Just normal sheers with a nut/bolt.
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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by weatherdude » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:09 pm

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zXzGrifterzXz wrote:The only ones I can think of is the Leatherman Raptor Medical Shears, usually I consider shears to be a consumable. Normally by the time the center pin is having issues they are already dull as crap and I am ready to toss them anyway.
I cut an Ace bandage with mine last week. Like the whole roll. I needed a 6 inch wide one to be like 4 inches. But it bent the scissors so far apart at the rivet that they suck now. It's the only pair I carry in my INCH/BOB. And got to thinking there has to be a better tool. At least one where I can tighten that little bolt and nut like on professional scissors. I mean I could add one myself. But would prefer something engineered that way from the get go. Not really interested in the Leatherman shears either. Just normal sheers with a nut/bolt.
Other than the raptors or maybe even Big shears (google them), I can't think of any. However, as far as the raptors go, I own and use a pair, and they're the best shears I've ever owned. So much so that I EDC them. The only bug I have with them is that the screw that keeps the belt attachment/molle clip on the holster does get lose frequently, but wait, that's why we have multitools.
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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by painiac » Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:29 pm

weatherdude wrote:However, as far as the raptors go, I own and use a pair, and they're the best shears I've ever owned. So much so that I EDC them.
Sigh. Now I need to add these to my shopping list. God damnit...
weatherdude wrote:The only bug I have with them is that the screw that keeps the belt attachment/molle clip on the holster does get lose frequently, but wait, that's why we have multitools.
Blue threadlocker will solve your problem pretty much for good (but can be undone if required).
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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by Browning 35 » Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:47 pm

Damn, $59? Those Raptor's are nice, but not that nice.

You can buy trauma shears for $1.99 off Amazon. Think of them like Mora knives and just buy a shitload.
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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by weatherdude » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:05 pm

painiac wrote:
weatherdude wrote:However, as far as the raptors go, I own and use a pair, and they're the best shears I've ever owned. So much so that I EDC them.
Sigh. Now I need to add these to my shopping list. God damnit...
weatherdude wrote:The only bug I have with them is that the screw that keeps the belt attachment/molle clip on the holster does get lose frequently, but wait, that's why we have multitools.
Blue threadlocker will solve your problem pretty much for good (but can be undone if required).
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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by painiac » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:22 pm

weatherdude wrote: Thanks for that tip dude! As for making you need a pair...you're welcome.
No problem. Consider us even. Make sure you get the gel I pictured, It's a lot easier to work with.

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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by crunch86 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:51 pm

Unless you're rebuilding an engine with a pair or something, nearly every pair of shears I've ever had has been lost long before they broke down.
I've seen some rather salty pairs coming back from combat zones...and they still work.
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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by weatherdude » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:57 pm

painiac wrote:
weatherdude wrote: Thanks for that tip dude! As for making you need a pair...you're welcome.
No problem. Consider us even. Make sure you get the gel I pictured, It's a lot easier to work with.
Will do! In all seriousness, these shears are EXACTLY what we've come to expect from Letherman, and that is high quality and built to last.
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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by painiac » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:51 pm

crunch86 wrote:Unless you're rebuilding an engine with a pair or something, nearly every pair of shears I've ever had has been lost long before they broke down.
I've seen some rather salty pairs coming back from combat zones...and they still work.
I've never lost any of my gear, but I have snapped the rivets on 4 pairs of cheap trauma shears so far. (I consider them semi-disposable, so I abuse them. With my other gear, I'm more careful).

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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by Browning 35 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:18 pm

crunch86 wrote:Unless you're rebuilding an engine with a pair or something, nearly every pair of shears I've ever had has been lost long before they broke down.
I've seen some rather salty pairs coming back from combat zones...and they still work.
Same here.

My EDC items I'm good at keeping track of, but shears aren't one of those. They're also like black gel pens in that they're constantly being 'borrowed' and never returned.

Gear/equipment that's assigned to a specific box is also in the same category. Pulse ox's that don't work get swapped out for ones that do, plastic student stethoscopes get exchanged for Littmann's and Sprague's, grabbing mapsgo's, looting ETCO2 filter tubing when they're in short supply etc etc (gear adrift, must be a gift). Kinda why checking the box out at shift swap is so important, people are constantly grabbing gear off of the reserve and off-duty ambulances if the supply guy isn't in the cage.

Personal shit is a completely different story, untouchable and if they're a high priced item that you bought personally you could leave it anywhere and it would stay right there the whole day. So I doubt these would get 'borrowed', but at $60 I'd be paranoid about losing them as shears are one of those items that historically I haven't been very good at keeping track of.

They are some nice shears though. I might be able to keep track of those. I've been able to keep track of some pretty nice knives on shift
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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by Laevatein » Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:48 pm

weatherdude wrote:
moab wrote:
zXzGrifterzXz wrote:The only ones I can think of is the Leatherman Raptor Medical Shears, usually I consider shears to be a consumable. Normally by the time the center pin is having issues they are already dull as crap and I am ready to toss them anyway.
I cut an Ace bandage with mine last week. Like the whole roll. I needed a 6 inch wide one to be like 4 inches. But it bent the scissors so far apart at the rivet that they suck now. It's the only pair I carry in my INCH/BOB. And got to thinking there has to be a better tool. At least one where I can tighten that little bolt and nut like on professional scissors. I mean I could add one myself. But would prefer something engineered that way from the get go. Not really interested in the Leatherman shears either. Just normal sheers with a nut/bolt.
Other than the raptors or maybe even Big shears (google them), I can't think of any. However, as far as the raptors go, I own and use a pair, and they're the best shears I've ever owned. So much so that I EDC them. The only bug I have with them is that the screw that keeps the belt attachment/molle clip on the holster does get lose frequently, but wait, that's why we have multitools.
I love mine but there is an issue about having the lanyard upside down.
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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by Jorian » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:10 am

We have shears made to our own spec, and the main difference is that we require an oversized rivet. The Raptor is a great tool - but it's more than just shears. So consider, if you're only using it as a pair of shears, you could buy 20+ pairs of shears for the same price.

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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by moab » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:08 pm

My concern over the rivet is for long term INCH/BOB issues. I really don't want to carry the heavy LEatherman one. And the cheap ones you can't afford to take 20 with you. There must be something in between.
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Re: Trauma Sheers with nut and bolt?

Post by maldon007 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:53 pm

Drill out the rivet, visit home depot, profit?
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