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While trolling through websites and videos I ran across this group https://amrron.com/

....and they are directly tied back to themselves through this group https://radiofreeredoubt.com/

In a search here on ZS I only saw one mention of them so are many here even aware of these folks? Anyone participate in any of their nets? Anyone pay $6 for their comms document? :?:

Any similar SHTF groups out there with radio nets?

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This Weekend a local ham repeater is supposed to host one of their nets. I will give it a listen and report back on it.

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The net kicked off on time and ran a little over an hour. The repeater has good coverage at my place and signal reports for me were good.

Four other hams besides myself attended with the license/skill levels running from Techs to Advanced. Apparently there are a couple of regulars who were not on tonight. I do not think that any of those with HF capabilities have been on the AMRRON HF nets. One ham did take his HF gear out into the local mountains, partially to escape the noise levels in his home area but not really for practicing emergency portable comms.

No one was admitting to actively "prepping" but some said they had things like deep cycle batteries and solar panels they might assemble in an emergency, a stock of food and water and so on. I think three of the five participants were twenty-somethings so that is a good sign that they have an interest in preparedness. One expressed an interest in getting everyone out into the Mojave Desert for a radio expedition.

Next time around I'll see if I can get them interested in joining ZS.

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Missed the Friday night net for this week. I was supposed to be in Death Valley this weekend but my friend had a family emergency so we cancelled our adventure.

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I am a AmRRON Corps member. There are ~4000 AmRRON members spread over the US as well as Canada, Puerto Rico and a few other locations. There are ~400 of us in AmRRON Corps, those members who are a bit more focused on upgrading skills and capabilities.
AmRRON started out just to network "preppers" in what is known as the American Redoubt in the Pacific North West. As "patriots", "Preppers", "Militia" and various church and civic groups joined the membership grew well beyond the borders of the Redoubt. The American Preparedness Radio Network (TAPRN), located mostly east of the Mississippi River, merged with AmRRON further increasing their numbers.
Why would I join AmRRON instead of a group like the ARRL run ARES? Easy, the focus on ARRL ARES has mostly been on supporting NGOs such as the Red Cross which has plenty of problems which I have learned I am unwilling to deal with after multiple disasters. The Red Cross and ARRL ARES tend to be concerned with what is known as Continuity of Government. Add to the issue that ARRL ARES states NO FIREARMS ALLOWED and that is a deal breaker for me.
AmRRON is focused on Continuity of the Citizens. It is there to support the homesteader, church group or those groups and agencies often passed over or neglected by FEMA, Red Cross and others. Unlike ARES which tends to almost worship Ham Radio as the be all/end all of disaster communications, AmRRON embraces the use of multiple radio services from CB to GMRS to Ham to low power FM broadcast. What ever works to get the message through. And in addition to packing your radio gear for deployment, AmRRON doesn't have a problem with you bringing your evil black rifle with you. After procrastinating for quite a while and weighing the pros and cons, I formally joined AmRRON Corps after reading AARs like this one where multiple radio services and AR rifles were proudly on display- https://amrron.com/2015/08/24/washingto ... -pictures/ .
AmRRON is targeting the "patriot", "Christian", "Prepper" community for increased communications training and networking. Dozens of people sign up for radio classes. Over a hundred showed up for a recent 2 hour intro to comms class. The more people hear about it the more are excited to show up and participate. Check out this podcast where John Jacob discusses AmRRON and a class he hosted this weekend. https://radiofreeredoubt.com/2017/03/20 ... nications/
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Thanks for the post Yale. The local VHF AmRRON net on WA6QIW has been a bit on the "weak" side and I've stopped checking in. I give them an A+ for wanting to have the net but Friday night at 20:00 PST is not a good time for a net as many folks have family activities that have a higher priority.

There were more than a few times that participants might briefly check in and quickly leave or be called away from the net to be with their family.

The guy operating as net control has a pretty bad signal due to some (unspecified) antenna he has laying on his floor. Every week he mentions it but he never does anything about improving his signal.

The format of the net is pretty loose and usually ends up with the few attendees saying what they intended to do to prepare but it seems not much progress is made.

There does not seem to be any particular goal for holding the net so it would benefit from having a direction and some milestones to achieve. Examples - teaching people about passing emergency traffic, providing situation reports during a disaster, maybe a tech class on improving the one guy's antenna situation or discussions on prepping.

The web site link that you shared shows some folks who have accomplished more than the local group and I enjoyed the pictures. In California there is no hope of openly walking about with an evil black rifle.....

I'm not knocking AmRRON, just reporting that the local net on VHF has a long way to go before it will grow and attract new folks.

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I will list some other sources that touch upon SHTF comms. Some of them look pretty basic but those may be just right for someone who is not already into two way radios.

This one has a number of things including a podcast.

http://survivalistprepper.net/ham-radio ... lications/

There is also a PDF I have copied into this post. I've not double checked all of the links.

traffic.libsyn.com/survivalistprepper/RESOURCES_FOR_HAM_RADIO_OPERATORS.pdf

RESOURCES FOR HAM RADIO OPERATORS

Studying for your Test
http://www.hamradiolicenseexam.com
http://hamexam.org/
http://www.hamwhisperer.com
https://hamstudy.org/
http://www.arrl.org/studying-for-a-technician-license

Schedule an Exam
http://www.arrl.org/exam-practice

Amateur Radio Forums & Groups
http://www.preparedham.com/forums/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/hamcommbasics/
http://www.eham.net/
http://www.hamradioforum.net/forum.php
http://www.arrl.org/forum
http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?forums/ ... or-sale.7/

General Ham Information
http://www.arrl.org
http://www.arrl.org/ares-races
http://www.arrl.org/arrl-net-directory-search
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/arrl_radiogram
http://www.hamuniverse.com

Ham Radio Equipment
http://www.aesham.com
http://www.hamradio.com
http://www.amateurradiosupplies.com
http://www.powerwerx.com

Repeater Directories
http://www.artscipub.com/repeaters/
https://www.repeaterbook.com/repeaters/ ... te_id=none

National Traffic System
http://www.w7arc.com/nts
http://www.echolink.com

Radio Scanner Information
http://www.radio-scanner-guide.com
http://www.radioreference.com
http://www.scannermaster.com

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Communication Gear for SHTF
http://www.onpointpreparedness.net/comm ... -for-shtf/

SHTF COMS: Emergency Communications When Disaster Strikes
http://offgridsurvival.com/shtf-emergen ... nications/

Amateur Radio Repeater database
http://www.artscipub.com/repeaters/

SHTF Survivalist Radio Frequency Lists
https://radiofreeq.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... ency-list/

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This is a whole forum geared to SHTF radio: Radio Preppers Forum http://radiopreppers.com/

It is not a super active group but still has some good info

General Discussion - Disaster preparedness general topics, announcements and introductions.
New To Radio - The place to ask basic questions about radio.
Radio Reviews, Questions and Comments - Anything about transceivers.
Antennas - Antenna designs and reviews.
Batteries & Solar - Batteries, charging, chemistries, battery packs, solar panels and charge controllers.
CB - Citizens band radio is good for prepping too!
Technical Corner - If it involves a soldering iron, it belongs here!
Tactical Corner - Anything related to security, tactics and preparedness. Not limited to radio
Net Activity - Building local and wider networks of preppers via radio.
Military Radios - Military surplus radios are well suited for prepping, being very rugged, sealed and covering a wide range of frequencies.
Morse Code The grand daddy of all communication modes might be the best for prepping.
Licensing - How to get a Ham license? Q&A.
Digital Modes - Digital modes for prepping? Standardization debate. Practicality and Technicalities.
Classifieds - For sale or wanted, radio related gear only.
VHF and Above - Anything above 30MHz, mostly local and regional communications.

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recordings of the "Survival Net" on the east coast http://3950.net/category/survival-net/

sample: http://liberty.3950.net/Survival%20Net% ... WB4AIO.mp3

from a 2013 article:

by Jim Saemann, AB3RA

THE SURVIVAL NET must be making an impact, because we ran into several instances of intentional interference both on frequency and near frequency Sunday night. Band conditions were difficult even without the interference, but we managed to have a great discussion anyway.

Tonight on 3983 kHz we talked about the social aspects of survival. Specifically, we talked about forming groups of like-minded individuals among your friends and neighbors — the premise being that none of us should be a “lone wolf” in a crisis. We can share mutual assistance and support with our friends and neighbors.

We also talked about the psychological aspects of survival: what to expect from ourselves and others in a crisis. Humans are creatures of habit and routine. When the routine gets disrupted by an “event,” many emotions follow: confusion, depression, desperation, anger, etc. Being well prepared for a crisis makes us better able to handle these emotions in ourselves and others.

This coming week (February 24) will be the eighth session of the Survival Net. I’m very happy with our progress to date with this very new net. As such, I think it’s a good time to just have an open discussion about survival. We’ll discuss anything you want, but I want to spend some time taking suggestions from net participants for what you’d like to cover in the future and for how to run the net in general. I am a very new amateur radio operator (less than four months!) and appreciate the input from more experienced hams. I look forward to another lively discussion this Sunday at 9 PM on 3983!

Here are some highlights from our discussion:

*SOCIAL ASPECTS OF SURVIVAL*

*NEIGHBORHOOD SURVIVAL GROUPS* Get to know your acquaintances, church members, and neighbors.

* Be ORGANIZED and communicate well — be a leader.

* For meetings, have a clear, simple agenda that’s easy to understand.

* Show neighbors “what’s in it for them” with a document or slide show about disasters like Katrina, Sandy, etc. and how even just a few days without power or communications can be devastating.

* Have potluck dinners and block parties.

* Make a Survival Group flyer and put it in neighbors’ doors or mailboxes.

* Talk to them about survival in everyday conversations.

* Start a garden club to help start victory gardens.

* Start a community watch program for your neighborhood.

* Find inexpensive, short books and DVDs that talk about the problems and neighborhood survival tactics.

* Learn about their skills, backgrounds, needs and interests — you may be surprised to find people in your neighborhood like ex-military, law enforcement, machinists, carpenters, farmers, landscapers, doctors, nurses, etc. You should also compile a list of special needs persons such as elderly, diabetics, epileptics, special needs children, etc.

* Buy tools that would be useful and that could be shared, like tillers.

* Buy extra seed such as a seven-year supply of Survival Seeds and be prepared to provide seeds for neighbors. Use only NON-HYBRID seeds, as these are the only seeds that can be harvested and used year after year from the grown plants.

* Build a survival library of books that you can use to train your group in needed survival skills.

* Invite them to go to a shooting range with you.

* Establish a neighborhood communications network using HTs, CBs, ham radio, etc. FRS walkie talkies are inexpensive, easy to use, and require no license. These radios would be ideal for families in your neighborhood to use in a crisis. Volunteer to be communications coordinator of your neighborhood in a crisis.

* Establish regular meetings to discuss neighborhood survival plans and procedures.

* Don’t worry about ‘persuading’ others. Concentrate on like-minded individuals who share your concerns and goals.

* Develop a written disaster preparedness plan among like-minded friends and neighbors. Write it, read it, SHARE it, improve it, and don’t forget about it!

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Here's a video I put up about a year ago showing a bit of the Eastern Regional Patriots Net-
https://youtu.be/Kg0WFA1K23Q

The point of the video is that now is a good time to get on the air and practice and NETWORK with the different prepper and patriot groups you may have something in common with. Become a regular on the nets and when something (national emergency or disaster) occurs you know where to go for info and those you talk to already know you and have a certain amount of trust in the traffic you are passing to the group. Also, it's a good example of the difference in the VHF and UHF radios so many preppers tend to gravitate to. Instead of just local comms now we are reaching out and covering most of the Eastern US on 80 meter HF. Sure would be useful in an emergency for getting information from or into an impacted area.

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Recently AmRRON joined a large Washington State Militia FTX or Field Training Exercise. This is an annual event where "militias", "Mutual Assistance Groups, OathKeepers and others join to network and exercise various skills such as Small Unit Tactics (SUT).
Before the FTX, AmRRON founder John Jacob wrote to the organizers to discuss his plans for the participation of AmRRON. He suggested a scenario based exercise with AmRRON Corps members from across the nation participating in passing radio traffic. Of not was his mention of the plans to have AmRRON operators embed at RTOs (radio telephone operators) and work as part of field teams using basic infantry skills.

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AmRRON Proposal for the WA State Joint FTX 2017
Gentlemen,
Thank you for the opportunity to speak again at this year’s statewide FTX. It was great to meet so many great, dedicated patriots last year. It’s encouraging to see so many training and preparing, and taking the task of defending our Constitution and our heritage so seriously. I look forward to it.
We (AmRRON) had been planning a March FTX this year and this could be a great opportunity to combine our training, so I have a proposal.
AmRRON has deployed many times, both in training and real-world situations, including FTXs. This joint FTX could provide an excellent opportunity for AmRRON to deploy in its designed role as Signals Support. In addition to the comms section of the TOC, I was hoping to deploy a team of AmRRON Corps operators for the following purposes:
- Establish a SIGCEN and operate a larger scenario-based exercise, receiving traffic (SITREPS, SPOTREPS, and message traffic) to relay to/from the TOC.
- Assist the TOC comms section with staffing where it may be needed, and on-site training to help them increase their capabilities.
- Demonstrate communicatiosn capabilities and limitations for command/leader elements to help them when considering future missions and operations.
- Provide Attached RTOs. We have been working to develop RTOs as deployable assets which can be attached to tactical units in the field who may lack operational-level (beyond tactical) communications capabilities. The AmRRON Corps RTOs are able to help train organic militia RTOs, and/or they can fill the gap where a unit does not yet have advanced comms capabilities.
The deployable tactical RTO is capable of integrating into a team, squad, or platoon-sized element and be a contributing member of the team while attached. He is not ‘just’ a radio operator, he is also capable at the basic infantry skills level.
This is basically an overview of what I had in mind. If this sounds like something that you feel all parties could benefit from, I’d be happy to discuss any ideas, and answer any questions, you may have.
Keep up the great work! God bless,
John Jacob Schmidt
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After the FTX, JJS gave a AAR in his weekly Radio Free Redoubt show on KTW discussing some of the things they accomplished and some real lessons learned. The show can be heard at-
https://radiofreeredoubt.com/2017/03/26 ... m-jftx-17/
The show begins with a short recap of what he was doing over the weekend and goes to the Eye On The Economy segment. Then at the 20 minute mark JJS gives a run down of AmRRON and how it's grown and what it's doing. He gives some details about what AmRRON Corps did with the FTX. I recommend those looking to learn more about AmRRON listen to this, at least from the 19:30 mark in this show.

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Another bit that swayed me to join and participate in AmRRON over ARES/RACES was posted to the AmRRON forum last year before a training event. In it, JJS goes over some of the mission objectives and what you will need to have for the event. The scenario would be a nation wide activation of AmRRON due to massive civil unrest and break down.
As part of the packing kit you have mulitcam pants and earth tone "operators cap" which is a low profile baseball style cap with the Velcro hook and loop patch areas.
And, sure to send the ARES/RACES folks into a seizure, bring your rifle and side arm. "Not mandatory but didn't what you to leave it at home and be "that guy"".
That's right. An AmRRON deployment is not a gun free zone type of thing which was a major problem I had with ARES/RACES.
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As some of you know, there is an event (LFA Arms Expo 2016) in central Washington State, sponsored by Liberty For All, on Fri/Sat/Sun (June 17th – 19th). The event will include activities such as multiple patriot speakers, Patriot musician Jordan Page, KrisAnne Hall, an open air gun show, and many workshops from first aid, to tactics, etc. I believe Sam Culper will be teaching a workshop on intelligence. You can learn more by visiting their Facebook Page at: www.facebook.com/events/569164269898886/

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There will be a scenario-based FTX (Operation Premonition 2016 – Friday 17th through Sunday morning 0900hrs 19th) that will span across several western states, involving several mutual aid groups, preparedness groups, and militias. Due to the inadequacies in reliable communications capabilities, the leadership and organizers have asked for communications support from AmRRON (specifically AmRRON Corps). Most patriot groups who are otherwise very well organized, suffer major deficiencies when it comes to non-conventional communications, especially reaching beyond their immediate AO (Area of Operations). So, here’s a bulleted list of key areas I am planning around, with the help of a few others.
• The scenario will NOT be ‘dirty rotten government’ resistance scenario. It will be based on a realistic civil order collapse with disruptions in conventional comms/power infrastructure.
• The focus will be on working with leadership personnel and elements who are likely to be excluded from most government-sponsored disaster communications operations, but who we rely on for representing our interests as citizens. We are there to help them stay informed and corresponding with each other.
• This will be a DEMONSTRATION of our communications capabilities (and limitations) so they have an understanding of how we may be able to realistically support them in their decision making process.
• We will be CUSTOMIZING a communications plan that will deviate from the SOI to a certain degree.
• This scenario is being ran ‘as if’ the entire AmRRON Network were activated, and following the SOI, but with this ‘parallel’ operation being conducted simultaneously, providing command and control support to leadership elements in the patriot community (which will include sheriffs and other elected officials, grass-roots leaders, and security/militia leadership personnel).
• DEPLOYMENT: There will be a deploying communications team which will practice deploying to the central WA location to establish a Signals Center (SIGCEN). More details about the deployment team below.
• Non-DEPLOYMENT: The bulk of the AmRRON Corps operators will provide static comms support (your home or field location, or other location of your choosing). Some of those duties may include:
o Initiating SITREPS/SPOTREPS to insert into the scenario, providing practice in message handling.
o Relays – Act as a relay to pass traffic between stations.
• Most all traffic will be conducted using HF digital modes, to include flmsg forms and REPAC.
• We will also be working with Sam Culper to develop an intelligence/communications integration plan for this exercise, and future operations. Sam Cupler’s recently published book, ‘SHTF Intelligence’ may come in real handy for you to practice tracking intelligence during this exercise.

Please let me know if you are interested in participating, either as a member of the Deployment Detachment (DET) or as a Static Station operating from your local area.

The next several weeks will be the ‘train-up’ cycle, where I’ll be giving additional guidance in several areas, to include message handling, message precedence, non-conventional nets (deviating from the SOI), and the use of ‘tactical’ (stripped down) forms (those forms we use in flmsg, but lightened up and streamlined for ‘down and dirty’ message traffic).

Any correspondence related to this FTX (Field Training Exercise), please put ‘Premonition 2016’ in the subject line, so I can start a separate email folder to keep related correspondence organized.

THIS YEAR: we are also opening up the opportunity for other regions to to conduct deployment training and establishing a SIGCEN in your region. Let me know at johnjacob@radiofreeredoubt.com if this is something your regional network would like to do. We’ll work with you.

Deployment Detachment (The DET):
Many more details to follow, but the preliminary information is as follows:
• The SIGCEN will be located outside the perimeter of the Expo at a separate facility, but very close by.
• Travel/food is at each operator’s expense (vendors are supposed to be on site, but plan on being self-reliant and living out of your pack (it’s 48 hours, I mean, c’mon). It’s an adventure!
• Camping spaces will be available, but for the Detachment, we will have limited quarters available since we’ll be ‘operational’. Plan on living conditions in a field deployment environment.
• Commercial power is supposed to be available, but plan on being grid-down capable if you have it
• HF and digital capabilities (to include field or man-portable antennas, if you have them)
• Multi-cam trousers and an earth-tone operator cap (baseball-style, low profile tactical hat – preferably with ‘hook and loop’ patches).
• Sidearm and combat rifle? You bet. (not mandatory, but didn’t want you to leave it at home and be ‘that guy’)
• You may be assigned to a tactical team conducting field operations (for those of you with proper packs and field equipment and portable comms)
• Many patriots and leadership attending have heard great things about AmRRON, but some have never directly interacted with AmRRON operators, so you will also be an ambassador. Utmost cool-headed professionalism, display of confidence and competence (and humility), and a consistent ‘can-do’ attitude are ‘must have’ qualities. No complaining, moaning, or grumbling. If you’re not sure you meet those requirements, just ask your wife. She’ll give you honest feedback.

Once I get a roster of interested and deployable DET operators, I’ll work with you separately on that portion of the exercise for vetting and further operational requirements.

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After the FTX, JJS gave a AAR in his weekly Radio Free Redoubt show on KTW discussing some of the things they accomplished and some real lessons learned. The show can be heard at- https://radiofreeredoubt.com/2017/03/26 ... m-jftx-17/


The podcast was OK. If someone were to listen (and unless you love NWO conspiracy crap) I highly recommend skipping to 19:30

I looked for videos on the Washington FTX and the group Kullman Combat Operations (KCO) gets lots of hits. In a video of theirs one guy is tatted out with an iron cross and other symbols. Sort of neo-Nazi looking. The leader of the KCO is a suspected FBI informant
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-stando ... ant_f.html
http://outpost-of-freedom.com/blog/?p=1898#more-1898

Am hoping the rest of the Washington State militias are more reputable!

Can you post pictures of AMRRON operators with radios and antennas at the Washington event?

Thanks....

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