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How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by NoAm » Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:22 am

I thought it might be nice to have a Q&A Journaling post to track and share info about our gardens.
This is our 2nd year planting a vegetable garden, we learned a lot last year, like liming below the Hemlock trees, the tomatos love the acid, but just about everything else gets dwarfed, or doesn't grow/produce very well. We are working with a 20'x30' area, and fought LOTS of weekd last year. People have suggested using Roundup a couple of weeks prior to planting, but I am not sure about using the chemicals with our foods. A neighbor mentioned tilling and then laying cardboard down, wetting, staking it and then cutting out holes to plant the vege's.
I planted our seeds 2 weeks ago.
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The Green Beans, Cucumber, Caulifower, Okra and Squash are coming along nicely
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The garden will be tilled by next weekend and we will start planting then
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Any tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. THE biggest thing that really kicked my butt last year was the CONSTANT weeding.
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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by velojym » Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:26 am

All we've planted this year are some tomatoes and a pepper plant in some pots. As arthritic as we both are, it's kind of a challenge to work a garden on the ground for any length of time. I have considered building a table garden, though... probably not this year.
We may extend our little porch garden to include more peppers and some herbs, though.
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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by NoAm » Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:33 am

I have seen a tiered or step type of garden, where you can get a lot of containers in a small area. I will try and find a picture of it for you. Great this is exactly what i wanted this post to be! :D
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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by Heimdall » Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:32 am

I just got my planters made, 2 for food and one for my Rose bush. I got the rose planted, I need more dirt for the food planters, at this point I just hope my brown thumb continues its green streak.
I might be in the basement. I'll go upstairs and check.
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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by Reddington » Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:43 am

If weeds were so bad last year why don't you try using black plastic mulch? By that I mean the black plastic sheeting.

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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by Westbound » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:06 pm

The wife and I are living in an apartment currently, so that's a serious hamper on gardening.
I've got a bunch of large planters on the patio. This year I've got 4 tomato plants and 3 pepper plants. I'll be helping my dad with his garden when I can, so he'll hook me up with beans, cucumbers, collards, squash and a few other items to can.

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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by offcamber » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:17 pm

I am just putting the finishing touches on our deer fence for this year's garden... hope to have it plowed and tilled by next weekend. As I get a little further along I'll post up some pics and info on what I planted this year.

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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by NoAm » Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:53 pm

Love the black plastic sheeting idea too! What do you think about the existing weeds/vegetaion? Should we just till under and move on, or would it be good to spray something on it. I might just be being a paranoid freak, but I of course, want to be careful what I am spraying the ground with, where our food will be growing from.
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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by American_Infidel » Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:33 pm

I did the black plastic thing one year. Kept the weeds out and the plants grew like crazy. Only problem was that most of the waterwould run off of the plastic and I had to keep an eye on the garden and water about twice as much as normal. Plus the plastic gets hotttttt in the summer. The peppers and tomatoes didn't seem to mind though.
I have my garden spot tilled up right now. I'll till it one more time this week and then plant right after. Going to plant green beans, corn and cucumbers in the tilled up spot. When the plants start to emerge, I'll mulch with shredded paper and straw to keps the weeds down. For established plants, I am going to just dig a hole with some post hole diggers, put some rotted manure in the bottom of the hole and put the plant in. I'll spread a little newspaper around the base of the plant to keep the weeds and grass out from around the base of the plant. The rest of that area will be just left in grass...that is the best weed barrier I have. I'll space the plants out so I can mow around them.

ETA: When I used to be all gung-ho and anal about a garden, I'd till a huge area once to break it up, wait a few days and till it again to break it up some more. Then I'd cover the whole area in plastic to kill the vegetation. After a few weeks, I'd remove the plastic and till it one more time. This worked the soil reall loose and fine.
But.....I developed a huge pig weed problem. The garden would still produce and do good, but the pigweed was thick and I couldn't stay ahead of it by just pulling it up. Once the pigweed was established, the other weeds would move in. Mulching helped by making the weeds spindly and easier to pull out, but it was still a chore. A let it go fallow two years ago and let the grass take back over. In the fall, I put shreded leaves and cow manure on the garden then till it in around late Feb or early March.
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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by KarLorian » Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:42 pm

spraying vinegar works to kill plants w/o toxins...

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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by NoAm » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:02 pm

WOW! Just spray pure vinegar onto the weeds??? How long should I wait before I till/plant the vegetables, etc. This is AWESOME! Thank you!
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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by Reddington » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:23 pm

I've sprayed 1/2 water 1/2 vinegar on dandelions since I heard from someone that it works. About 1/2 of the plant was brown by the next day. Vinegar naturally disperses with no harm to the environment.

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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by NoAm » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:31 pm

Reddington wrote:I've sprayed 1/2 water 1/2 vinegar on dandelions since I heard from someone that it works. About 1/2 of the plant was brown by the next day. Vinegar naturally disperses with no harm to the environment.
You can't spray the dandelions in the grass though, right? Stupid question I know, but we have TONS of dandelions in the grass too.
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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by NoAm » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:34 pm

What a difference 2 days make! These were taken today, lots of activity with the Green Beans and Cucumbers, still a couple of Caulifower and starting to get some activity from the Squash & Zuchinni. Peppers and Tomatos are still in hiding
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Post by NoAm » Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:35 pm

Reddington wrote:I've sprayed 1/2 water 1/2 vinegar on dandelions since I heard from someone that it works. About 1/2 of the plant was brown by the next day. Vinegar naturally disperses with no harm to the environment.
After spraying the weeds in the garden, how long before we should till/plant?
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Post by Breathing Free » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:57 pm

This is my progress so far.


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Post by NoAm » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:30 pm

Wow! Great stuff! Thanks for sharing? Did you do anything to prep the ground? Weed prevention, etc.
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Post by Breathing Free » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:48 pm

I had the local AG CoOp test my soil. I added manure and a little pelletized fertilizer. No weed prevention, except for the two kids. The potato tires are now filled with soil and eye starts. I want to get more cold weather plants going, but it has rained for three days straight. I'll post some more pics to show my progress.

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Post by airexurb » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:49 pm

That cardboard idea sounded pretty good. I would avoid using chemical pesticides around stuff you are gonna eat.

...and you can eat dandelions, you know. Thats why they were brought here originally. :D I say keep em around as extra, no work greens. They are tasty in salads.
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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by Agent » Sat May 01, 2010 1:19 am

I'm in an apartment, so I don't have a lot of arable land. :?

I just stick to herbs on the balcony, maybe some tomatoes this year. I've got a small rosemary bush and yesterday planted a few things. I got small starts of another rosemary, some cilantro, basil, sage and oregano. I've got some other planters and seeds for chives and green onions, but ran out of potting soil, so I'll plan them next week. Figured I'd try a few from seeds this time instead of just using starts.
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Post by NoAm » Sat May 01, 2010 8:33 am

We were talking last night and we are also going to try out a couple of topsy turvys on the back porch and see how they work out. We are going to do a T/T vs garden tomatos and see if one does better then the other.
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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by American_Infidel » Sat May 01, 2010 9:18 am

I grew some tomatoes out of the bottom of a couple of five gallon buckets once. I couldn't tell a difference in yeilds or size vs. growing them in the ground. Gotta be diligent and keep them watered because the plants will dryout quicker than ones in the ground. They are a nice space saving idea.
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Post by Silent Kube » Sat May 01, 2010 9:29 am

airexurb wrote:That cardboard idea sounded pretty good. I would avoid using chemical pesticides around stuff you are gonna eat.

...and you can eat dandelions, you know. Thats why they were brought here originally. :D I say keep em around as extra, no work greens. They are tasty in salads.
Just be sure you know the difference between actual dandelions and other plants that look similar. Some of those can be bad for you.
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Re: How Does Your Garden Grow? 2010

Post by RogerK » Sat May 01, 2010 10:20 am

We have everything in except for the tomatoes and peppers, they are still in the greenhouse, as we have another 2 weeks or so before the last frost (normally).
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