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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:39 am 
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I'm fairly sure customs considers magazines to be part of the firearm and you will need an import certificate for them. That and postage will likely make them just as costly as the ones already here. What mags are you after? It really pays to look around here, I might know of a cheaper place for you to look if you can tell me the ones your after.

The 7615 mags forget about, not going to happen.
I believe there was also a recent change to the regulations to prohibit use of any mags over 10 shot for centrefire rifles.


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Oh well, I was just curious... anyway at my current rate it'll be a long time before I can move out of home and get the firearms I want, probably won't even need magazines, just like little energy cells or something

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:49 am 
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A few years back I spent a fair amount of time looking for loopholes in all that kind of stuff. In the end it turns out customs just screws you over even if your right by following the laws/regulations.
I ended up coming to the conclusion that everything I thought of had already been tried and failed by others in the past :)


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Haha fair enough, I won't even bother then.

I try to keep it in the back of my mind, even though I've done basic training and gotten qualified with the steyr and minimi my parents are still resisting my licencing/ownership. Clearly it cannot be the safety aspect and they just do not trust me, quite a disheartening realization....

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Anyone who owns a lot of firearms and perhaps has some experience with importing guns or parts PM me?


PM a-go-go!


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too late, already been covered and idea discarded

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And, the best part is, the minute you import any firearms-related item, and it is duly declared by customs, you get put on a list.
Held by the federal police. Which then gives them the authority to seize and search any imported shipment in your name. In perpetuity.
Hell, sometimes, they don't even give it back.


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yet another reason to speak ill of our supposed protectors...

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No, not really, dude.
I'm guessing that'd put you on some list, somewhere, too.


But really, if you can understand how that culture of protection-through-policy got to be that way, it makes more sense.

You can understand it, but it doesn't mean you have to like it, i guess.


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I don't really understand how it got to be this way... I feel like this whole "civilized society" thing with all this protectionism (and "advanced medicine") is only breeding a dumber and more genetically flawed species.

Who knows, maybe I was born a few centuries too late...

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Agreed. About eleven centuries too late. But not in Australia.
Definately not in Australia.


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aus.templar wrote:
I don't really understand how it got to be this way... I feel like this whole "civilized society" thing with all this protectionism (and "advanced medicine") is only breeding a dumber and more genetically flawed species.

Who knows, maybe I was born a few centuries too late...


Neither genetics, nor intellect work that way.

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aus.templar wrote:
I don't really understand how it got to be this way... I feel like this whole "civilized society" thing with all this protectionism (and "advanced medicine") is only breeding a dumber and more genetically flawed species.

Who knows, maybe I was born a few centuries too late...


Neither genetics, nor intellect work that way.



They do when you play with nature and treat genetic diseases and disorders, prolonging the life of people who would otherwise not have reproduced or when you wrap everyone in bubble wrap and drag through life the people who would have accidentally killed themselves

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No, not really.

You're treading dangerously close to the idea of eugenics here.

Have you ever had an infection? An operation? Ever sought medical attention or worn heavy clothes? You eat cooked meat, use tools and so forth.

All of that is 'playing with nature'. Depending on your persepctive, all the trappings of civilisation is 'wrapping youself in cotton wool' to some degree.

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I know I contradict myself here but there is a difference between commonsense-survival and some of the medical things we do. I'm not talking about eugenics, I'm talking about letting natural selection take it's course

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Yep, you do.

Laws are for the guidence of wise men and the obedience of fools, after all. Common sense isn't common, either.

And frankly, if it isn't eugenics you are advocating then it is snobbery of the highest order at the very least.

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Common sense isn't common anymore

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It never was, seriously.

People were MORE pig-ignorant back in the day, not less.

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I see things around me getting worse, not better.
I look for reasons which are causing things to spiral down.

I tire of this discussion sorry, I try to keep myself fresh for convincing people I know I can swing my way. I doubt you'll see my point so I'll back out here. I don't like debating these things with too many people one after another because I feel like I'm repeating myself, even though I haven't made a certain point to that particular person before. It messes me up.

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Fair enough, I suppose.

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Thought I might bring the thread back and I'm curious as to what type of shooting other ZS Aussies do?
Hunting? Target shooting with rifles? (.22's/centrefire/long range) or Handguns? (IPSC, Service etc),Metallic Silhouette?, Trap/Skeet?

I figure I'm mostly a pistol shooter, though I do long range rifle shooting, .22 rifle's and clay's as well. Currently in the process of getting my high cal permit fpr handguns too.
I'm not much of a hunter mainly because I don't have access to a property though I'd really like to get a property one day and set up targets all over for a 3 gun type event :)

How about you guys?


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I should be getting my licence within 2months, fingers crossed!

I'll be starting off target shooting with the cheapest .22 I can find, then getting a Remington 7615 or 7600 in 308, depending on how many 10rnd mags I can find for them.

I will be moving onto pistol shooting eventually as well, I find glocks sexy but duuno if they'll fit my hands

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Cheapest and target shooting don't usually go together too well, lol. Maybe something like a good condition used CZ 452 would be a good bet.
I wouldnt be too worried about the glocks most people can get a good hold on the full size model unless you have really small or very large hands :)


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I'm not too worried about accuracy with the .22, more about being able to practise with irons and shoot often and cheaply. I'd be spending about 500 on the .22 I reckon.

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