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My question is how many people out there sleep with guns under their pillow? and why? I live pretty far out in the country and he is a city boy. My only guess is he thought a bear might break into the house and ass rape him in his sleep and therefore needed protection. Now I sleep with a Glock also but mine in in a push button pistol safe under the bed.


I do not and I do not leave firearms where I do not have direct control over them. For me, I feel that if it's not in my hand, in a hoslter on my body or laying on the night stand right next to me, it should go in a safe.


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Takaaco78 wrote:
My question is how many people out there sleep with guns under their pillow? and why? I live pretty far out in the country and he is a city boy. My only guess is he thought a bear might break into the house and ass rape him in his sleep and therefore needed protection. Now I sleep with a Glock also but mine in in a push button pistol safe under the bed.


Sorry, I've heard too many stories about someone shooting themselves or their SO in the middle of the night by accident to think that keeping a gun under the pillow is a good idea.

Within reach of you while you sleep? Sure.
Under a pillow where you can potentially activate the trigger unconsciously? Nope.

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Have I done it? Absolutely. Do I recommend it? Nope...
Same, but never at home was always someplace or situation where if I was sleeping I was sleeping lightly for a reason.
I am embarrassed to say I too have also done it for the same reason. IMO this is very dangerous, foolish and if you are some place where you have to do this, you should not be sleeping but rather walking, driving or otherwise GTFO of there or split a night watch with someone.
I should add, I do not recommend doing it, at all. I think my situation was more like docdredd, though we didn't have those fancy camelbacks, I used my shirt :lol: and the stink of that thing was enough to make sure you slept lite.

My gas mask was my go-to pillow, and I never slept with a loaded weapon while I was in, as I never went anywhere that hairy. I did catch some fitfull sleep in AZ when I wished I had brought my weapon...

I have 3 kids that can get into anything in the house, but none can rack the slide on my G35.

To me, this makes things simple: On my body? Condition 1. Off my body? Condition 3.

And no, not under a freakin pillow. NIGHTSTAND GUN goes on/in the NIGHTSTAND.

I know your buddy drives truck, and I get his reasoning, just be sure he keeps that shit in the truck. Homes have nightstands.

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I have done it once out in the field, I would never recommend it. I don't move much during sleep, but even in my bivvy it did end up moving. Now, I simply holster my pistol (one in the chamber) but I put the holster in my bivvy at my side. I'm able to draw it just as quick, if not quicker due to the fact that my hands aren't visible while I grab it and a simple push on my Serpa, I'm ready to rock.

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I would probably sleep with a gun under the pillow with ass-raping bears around!! :?

I usually have a gun handy, just not chambered. I have camped with rifle beside my sleeping bag.

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Under the pillow? No. In the bed with me, condition 3? Yes. Condition one? Less often, but yes. Would I recommend it? Sure, why not? Not my problem if you blow your nuts off.

I have routinely slept with a cond 1 pistol in a GOOD holster, and more often with a condition 3 or 1 M16/M4.

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Every night routine... Holstered Glock 19 out of safe, next to bed with Flashlight to back up my Streamlight TLR1 mounted on ol' Gaston. First thing done in the morning, Gaston back into his safe (I have his little brother 26 in my pants pocket).

Under the pillow.... nope. Too much action on top of the bed :mrgreen:

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Under the pillow.... nope. Too much action on top of the bed :mrgreen:


:lol: That brings an entirely new meaning to the term accidental discharge. :lol:

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Years ago my I talked a friend of mine into making a metal plate (L shaped) that I could slide one end under my mattress (either beside the bed or at the head or foot) and attached a spare holster to it.

Shortly after that I was looking at a Dillion's (The Blue Press) catelog and saw one. They go for about $30.00 or so nowdays.

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Under my pillow? My gun is my pillow :twisted:

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Have I done it? Absolutely. Do I recommend it? Nope...

This^^^
One reason my fiancee (when I told her about having done it, years ago) wasn't happy about my wanting a license. I live a different life now, and don't feel the need, or see the sense, in having it THAT close to hand. I was lucky, back then, and never hurt myself or anyone else like that, and having grown up quite a bit from then, realize it now.

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My "night stand" pistol is in an open Safepacker with the flap shoved between the mattress and box spring. AND there are no children about.

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My pillow isn't always under my head when I wake up. It gets pushed around at night. I'm not sure what part of myself I'd shoot off if I kept a pistol under the pillow.

The safepacker tucked under the mattress seems like a neat idea.

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squinty wrote:
My pillow isn't always under my head when I wake up. It gets pushed around at night. I'm not sure what part of myself I'd shoot off if I kept a pistol under the pillow.

The safepacker tucked under the mattress seems like a neat idea.


I used to keep mine in a holster fastened behind the headboard, but that's as close to my pillow as it ever gets.

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I sleep with my 9mil in a holster at the head of my bed right where my head is at on a magazine stand. It is not under my pillow, but as close as possible with out being. I dont want a big arse gun under my pillow. My pillow inst that comfortable in the first place.

Now I dont keep my gun chambered. I dont feel it is needed in my particular case. Takes a bit to get to my room from the front door and the door makes enough noise to wake a comma patient.

Now I had a friend that always slept with a gun under his pillow, one in the night stand beside his bed. Kept another gun under the pillows of his couche and chair in the living room, one in the bath room, and a Glock in the freezer. He is far less paranoid now days.

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I'm surprised no ones mentioned the next best solution.
While I won't sleep with a gun or knife under my pillow, I sleep on the right side of the bed, so it's second nature to keep either my CZ52 or a large knife tucked between the mattresses. It's safe from being tossed about or rolled upon in the night, and it's nothing doing to drop my arm to the side of the bed as I normally sleep on my side.

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Not with a little kid. When I get my handgun, (ie when my wife says there is enough money to get one) I plan to lock it in my nightstand (which does have a lock in it) and unlock it when I go to bed. In the morning, CCW it or lock the nightstand again.

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Hmm, good point. My youngest is entirely to young to worry about that right now, but something I'll have to think on when he gets older.

If nothing else, you can always turn to GunVault safes.
http://www.gunvault.com/

They feature a design where your finger presses down on keys to open the safe, allowing the hand to naturally draw towards you, palming the firearm.
Their Speedvault is also good for rapid access, and stays securely locked so it can't be messed with by kids.

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RickOShea wrote:
My "night stand" pistol is in an open Safepacker with the flap shoved between the mattress and box spring. AND there are no children about.


This is pretty close to what I do. Hadn't thought of the Safepacker. I like it.

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If nothing else, you can always turn to GunVault safes.
http://www.gunvault.com/


Thats what i keep my Glock in under the bed

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I sell some of the gunvault products at my work, and honestly from LOOKING at the product design I would assume its great, you put your hand on there in a natural position and hit the buttons right?

problem is... those buttons, or membrane pads, or w\e are junk its hard to explain.... I have played with that safe more times than I can count, and there seems to be a 50% chance of mispressing the buttons,

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Well that's simply because you haven't mastered the proper amount of finger-control techniques that can only come from years of the ancient art of Gun-Fu.
Of course, once you master Gun-Fu, you don't have to worry about safes or vaults as you can pull firearms from the very fabric of space-time itself.

(In all seriousness I'll have to take your word for it as I've only used one of those that I borrowed from a friend. It seemed to work okay, but I didn't play around with it much.)

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I'm not saying they don't work.

what I'm saying is since the buttons are a little janky it winds up taking longer to open than it should.

I would much rather have one of the biometrics if it was reliable, (haven't played with yet, gunna spin it to the boss that "it's one of the more expensive safe's don't you want a display?" guess who's gunna put his fingerprints in to see how it works? :wink:

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