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Re: Katrina Experiences - Note this is very long

Post by phil_in_cs » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:46 am

bump the thread
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Post by LowKey » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:39 am

Laager wrote:
ZombieKraft wrote:Excellent trick with parking across the street. You are certainly one wily cat!

I've never bribed anyone with actual money. Cokes.. Beer... sure. But the napkins to an actual public official is something that I'm accustomed to. From your talk about "life treating you well" and your employees it's obvious you had the need to check up on property. In your situation you were taking relatively safe risks as you had to check on your property. A perfectly legal and reasonable request in times of crisis. I'm curious as to how you decided when you needed to give someone a 5, 10, 20 or 100.

Thanks for your response. This has been most informative.
Unfortunately, I have had to bribe a lot of people, usually in the Philippines and a few times south of the border. But since I stopped going south of the border, it is almost exclusively in the Philippines.

I hate generalizations, but I would guess that absolutely no one in the Philippines takes a government job (Political or Civil Service) for the standard pay. Sometimes any job. They take it for the bribes.

Raptor has it correct, never take out your wallet, or make it obvious that you are forking over some cash. Slip it to them as a napkin or some other way. Shake their hands and look them in the eye when you do.

I've had to bribe cops, firemen, DMV officials, IRS (Filipino, not U.S.), even water, sewer and electric company employees, postal. Once a Doctor and a couple of Nurses and orderlies.

It is an unfortunate cost of living and doing business in the PI. Otherwise good luck on getting anything done in a timely manner.
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Likewise many "customs" in the M.E. or S.E.Asia.

Think of it as a tax or processing fee, passed along without much ado or fanfare and you'll be much happier. Making an issue of it isn't going to change things and will just get you into more trouble.
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Re: Katrina Experiences - Note this is very long

Post by delarey » Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:44 pm

Raptor, early in the thread you mentioned a lot of folks focus on guns and ammo too much. I tend to agree!
My wife once asked me: if you were forced to move back to south Africa tomorrow, what would you need over there?
Simple answer...a glock26 and a Mossberg 500, a Toyota hilux 4 door 4x4 and a paid for 5 acre property out in the northern cape (low population density).
Mindset, situational awareness, interpersonal communication skills and financial security are some of your greatest tools.
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Re: Katrina Experiences - Note this is very long

Post by Shotzee » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:53 am

delarey wrote:Raptor, early in the thread you mentioned a lot of folks focus on guns and ammo too much. I tend to agree!
My wife once asked me: if you were forced to move back to south Africa tomorrow, what would you need over there?
Simple answer...a glock26 and a Mossberg 500, a Toyota hilux 4 door 4x4 and a paid for 5 acre property out in the northern cape (low population density).
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I think we all have visions of a fallout 4 situation. We are rolling through a wasteland with our trusty dog, or wife or whatever by our side. With out thigh rig, plate carrier, all decked out.

Be smart. Pistol (out of sight) is the best bet.
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Re: Katrina Experiences - Note this is very long

Post by delarey » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:11 pm

That's been my experience. I did a lot of traveling in south Africa with a concealed pistol. In fact, hitched a ride with a cop for about 200km with a cz100 under my jacket...traded some biltong and cigs for ammo...so yeah, you can barter for ammo when the economy is shit ;)

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Re: Katrina Experiences - Note this is very long

Post by Stercutus » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:20 pm

Shotzee wrote:
delarey wrote:Raptor, early in the thread you mentioned a lot of folks focus on guns and ammo too much. I tend to agree!
My wife once asked me: if you were forced to move back to south Africa tomorrow, what would you need over there?
Simple answer...a glock26 and a Mossberg 500, a Toyota hilux 4 door 4x4 and a paid for 5 acre property out in the northern cape (low population density).
Mindset, situational awareness, interpersonal communication skills and financial security are some of your greatest tools.
Great thread, by the way!

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I think we all have visions of a fallout 4 situation. We are rolling through a wasteland with our trusty dog, or wife or whatever by our side. With out thigh rig, plate carrier, all decked out.
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