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This shows how detached people are. Last night there was an armed robbery
in the jurisdiction 5 miles north of the one I was patrolling. My Cpl received a
tip about the suspect vehicle being at Wal-Mart in our jurisdiction. The three male
subjects exit the store and we block the vehicle aisle from both directions. He
is the command guy I'm cover. He is approximately 15 yards north of the suspect
vehicle using his as cover. I've left me vehicle as a roadblock and moved to the
suspects' right as they faced my Cpl. I was approximately 15 yards to their right
and maybe three yards to their rear in order to clear my partner's line of fire
as well as use a big F-350 as a backdrop in case I had to shoot. I had a truck bed
as cover/concealment/improv shooting rest.

We are using LED lights on our MARKED vehicles, both with guns drawn, one loudly
issuing verbal commands to three guys with their hands on their heads. Now the stupid part.

Three different shoppers walked through our lines of fire pushing shopping carts. Two were
engrossed in their phones and oblivious to what was happening. I think the third one was
probably really stupid/ curious, which is well known as a bad combination. Luckily no
one was hurt and the suspects were taken into custody. It's just amazing to me how
people can put themselves in extremely dangerous situations without even knowing it.


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I've read many a story of people walking into a bank robbery and walking right up to a teller's window, asking why the teller is laying prone on the floor.

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I have noticed this lack of awareness of your surroundings getting worse over the decades. It seems to me that more and more people are getting so used to living in their own little personal bubbles, that they observe less and less of the world around them. Including lack of scanning for potential dangers. I don't know if it can solely be due to the tech that is taking attention away, like cell phones. There seems to be something going on in people's way of looking at world that just doesn't seem to even register what is going on.

I recently watched a youtube video though about how the person doing the video observed how people around him were sitting down to a meal at a restaurant, and they spent the 1st 15 min on their cell phones not even saying one word to eachother. He explained he knew exactly what was happening, that they were updating all their social media saying what a great girl's night out or what ever they were having. How wonderful their food was, how great hanging with friends is. He explained how for those people, real life did not truly exist unless it was shared online, but the reality is that internet life they were busy telling everyone they were having didn't even exist. They were so busy on their social media that they weren't actually doing anything in real life.

So while tech it self might not be the full explanation, it is a big part of what might be causing this disconnect from reality. People seem to put more energy and effort into their online presence than into their real lives. So even when they are not directly connected with their tech, they aren't really here in the real world.

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Some folks are just totally oblivious of their surroundings because they're so engrossed in their own little world and have their heads in their phones or tablets or MP3 players.

I'm constantly looking around when out in public, looking for possible threats and how to avoid them or deal with them should the need arise. In the event of something bad happening, my first thought is to find a way to get my family and myself out of harm's way. I know I'm not the only one out there because I'll occasionally see someone else doing the whole 'scanning' head thing.

It amazes me that the first thought some folks have is to break out their phones and live stream whatever is going on rather than getting the hell out of there. It's like some of them can't operate without instant approval from their Facebook friends or Twitter followers. Having a million Twitter followers or thousands of Facebook friends isn't going to do you a damn bit of good if you're dead because things went south fast and bad things happened to you. You just know in an attack or some other bad situation, there'd be at least one person who whips out their phone and tries to upload a video to YouTube about the 'hilarious prank' that's happening in front of them.

ETA: Ghostdog914, I'm glad to hear the whole event went down without any harm done to either party involved. Including the shoppers who wandered into a extremely dangerous situation.

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Yeah having to draw down on someone in a very busy parking lot is no fun. Luckily they didn't want to chance it and we didn't get squirrelly and do something stupid.


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Ghostdog914 wrote:
Yeah having to draw down on someone in a very busy parking lot is no fun. Luckily they didn't want to chance it and we didn't get squirrelly and do something stupid.



I can very close to ending up in the middle of one. I walked out of the Food4Less store to notice 8 or 9 officers hugging cover with their hands on their service weapons and another walking down the center of the parking lot strapped into an AR. That was the fastest I've every moved with a full load of groceries.

EDIT: I don't know how it turned out as I decided not to hang around. "Get off the X" as it were.


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That sounds grim.

Living in the third world gives you a special kind of situation awareness that soem may describe as paranoia. Some sounds and situations, well, your gut just starts to sense them. Seen too many shootings and robberies already. Nevertheles, you still see stupid people on their cellphones who are just totally oblivious of whats happening around.


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DoctorCandelario wrote:
That sounds grim.

Living in the third world gives you a special kind of situation awareness that soem may describe as paranoia. Some sounds and situations, well, your gut just starts to sense them. Seen too many shootings and robberies already. Nevertheles, you still see stupid people on their cellphones who are just totally oblivious of whats happening around.

I totally get this. Sometimes it's just the "look" people have on their face, or tone of voice. Or worse yet the absence of sights and sounds that "should" be there at that time of day and circumstances, when it's one of those "too quiet" moments. Or patterns of movement of the crowd.

Then you just make a sharp turn and GTFO of the area.

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Ghostdog914 wrote:
This shows how detached people are. Last night there was an armed robbery
in the jurisdiction 5 miles north of the one I was patrolling. My Cpl received a
tip about the suspect vehicle being at Wal-Mart in our jurisdiction. The three male
subjects exit the store and we block the vehicle aisle from both directions. He
is the command guy I'm cover. He is approximately 15 yards north of the suspect
vehicle using his as cover. I've left me vehicle as a roadblock and moved to the
suspects' right as they faced my Cpl. I was approximately 15 yards to their right
and maybe three yards to their rear in order to clear my partner's line of fire
as well as use a big F-350 as a backdrop in case I had to shoot. I had a truck bed
as cover/concealment/improv shooting rest.

We are using LED lights on our MARKED vehicles, both with guns drawn, one loudly
issuing verbal commands to three guys with their hands on their heads. Now the stupid part.

Three different shoppers walked through our lines of fire pushing shopping carts. Two were
engrossed in their phones and oblivious to what was happening. I think the third one was
probably really stupid/ curious, which is well known as a bad combination. Luckily no
one was hurt and the suspects were taken into custody. It's just amazing to me how
people can put themselves in extremely dangerous situations without even knowing it.



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LowKey wrote:
DoctorCandelario wrote:
That sounds grim.

Living in the third world gives you a special kind of situation awareness that soem may describe as paranoia. Some sounds and situations, well, your gut just starts to sense them. Seen too many shootings and robberies already. Nevertheles, you still see stupid people on their cellphones who are just totally oblivious of whats happening around.

I totally get this. Sometimes it's just the "look" people have on their face, or tone of voice. Or worse yet the absence of sights and sounds that "should" be there at that time of day and circumstances, when it's one of those "too quiet" moments. Or patterns of movement of the crowd.

Then you just make a sharp turn and GTFO of the area.


Sounds like something from "Left of Bang". But, yeah, there's a problematic percentage of the population who walk around completely unaware of their surroundings.


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I can only hope I am surrounded by these people when the zombies rise :lol:

Jan 6 comic is completely relevant
http://www.arcamax.com/thefunnies/nonsequitur/

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aikorob wrote:
I can only hope I am surrounded by these people when the zombies rise :lol:

Jan 6 comic is completely relevant
http://www.arcamax.com/thefunnies/nonsequitur/


Yep, I don't have to run faster than a bear/lion/zombie, I just have to run faster than the guy next to me and a head start always helps.

Sorry, didn't realize this was such an old topic until after posting.


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