Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Jobs

Discuss those "what if" or "what would you do" scenarios you've been wondering about.

Moderator: ZS Global Moderators

MPMalloy
ZS Member
ZS Member
Posts: 3301
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:48 am

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by MPMalloy » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:24 am

At least the goats are living beings. I say Goat Power!

User avatar
raptor
ZS Global Moderator
ZS Global Moderator
Posts: 16196
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:18 pm
Location: Greater New Orleans Area

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by raptor » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:20 am

MPMalloy wrote:
At least the goats are living beings. I say Goat Power!
That and goats are not affected by poison ivy. :lol:

If they really feel that way let them go in and dig out the poison ivy. :roll:

MPMalloy
ZS Member
ZS Member
Posts: 3301
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:48 am

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by MPMalloy » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:42 am

raptor wrote:
MPMalloy wrote:
At least the goats are living beings. I say Goat Power!
That and goats are not affected by poison ivy. :lol:

If they really feel that way let them go in and dig out the poison ivy. :roll:
Yup! :wink:

MPMalloy
ZS Member
ZS Member
Posts: 3301
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:48 am

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by MPMalloy » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:58 pm

I was reading something unrelated, &...


Algorithmen sind Algorithmen!

User avatar
woodsghost
* * * * *
Posts: 2753
Joined: Thu May 16, 2013 3:45 pm

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by woodsghost » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:52 pm

DarkAxel wrote:Uh, Woodsghost, I owe you an apology. I am facing some personal challenges ATM, and those challenges are effecting me in ways I couldn't predict. I never should have taken my frustrations out on you or on the ZS forums. I was wrong. I ask for your forgiveness.
No apology necessary. It was clear you are going through a lot. I hope the dust settles soon and you find yourself on your feet. I went through some stuff and it hit me hard mentally. It took me a few years to find my feet again. I know people in your area are going through a lot. Thank you for explaining.

I do really appreciate your response.
*Remember: I'm just a guy on the internet :)
*Don't go to stupid places with stupid people & do stupid things.
*Be courteous. Look normal. Be in bed by 10'clock.

“It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to.” -Bilbo Baggins.

User avatar
flybynight
* * * * *
Posts: 2189
Joined: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:30 am

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by flybynight » Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:52 pm

Image
As of now I bet you got me wrong

John Titor was right

MPMalloy
ZS Member
ZS Member
Posts: 3301
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:48 am

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by MPMalloy » Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:59 pm

WTF is that?

User avatar
Stercutus
* * * * *
Posts: 12142
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:16 pm
Location: Bouncing in to Graceland

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by Stercutus » Sun Jul 09, 2017 3:29 pm

MPMalloy wrote:WTF is that?
That is Suaron's love child.
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be rememberèd—
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother

User avatar
flybynight
* * * * *
Posts: 2189
Joined: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:30 am

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by flybynight » Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:14 pm

Robot overlords version of "Here's looking at you kid"
As of now I bet you got me wrong

John Titor was right

User avatar
NamelessStain
* * * * *
Posts: 2656
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:08 am
Location: Coastal SC

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by NamelessStain » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:37 am

And how does that make you feel, Mr. Robot?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/career-of- ... 1499605203
jnathan wrote:Since we lost some posts due to some database work I'll just put this here for posterity.
Q wrote:Buckle up

MPMalloy
ZS Member
ZS Member
Posts: 3301
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:48 am

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by MPMalloy » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:43 am

NamelessStain wrote:And how does that make you feel, Mr. Robot?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/career-of- ... 1499605203
Fuck. All. Robots.

Zimmy
ZS Member
ZS Member
Posts: 960
Joined: Tue May 29, 2012 11:11 pm
Favorite Zombie Movies: 28 Days later, Return of the Living Dead
Location: Trinity City, Texas

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by Zimmy » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:52 am

I'd rather serve robots than goats.

There's some logic to robots....
Boldly going nowhere

User avatar
Neville
* * * *
Posts: 820
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:48 pm
Location: Northern California

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by Neville » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:23 pm

You want fries with that?

Robot burger-flipper takes quintessential "entry-level" job.

No doubt they will have one for the french fries before you know it.

Prototype pilot program now in operation... scheduled to be rolled out to the rest of the chain in 2 years.

You still need a "kitchen manager" to tend the robots and do the things they aren't programmed for... but for every 3-4 robots you only need one manager. Instead of 4-5 people working the kitchen.

What do you think those former burger-flippers will do for work now? Whatever it is, they just increased the competition for all those entry-level jobs.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/03/08/bur ... ot-flippy/

Image

Image

User avatar
flybynight
* * * * *
Posts: 2189
Joined: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:30 am

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by flybynight » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:35 pm

Neville wrote:You want fries with that?

Robot burger-flipper takes quintessential "entry-level" job.

No doubt they will have one for the french fries before you know it.

Prototype pilot program now in operation... scheduled to be rolled out to the rest of the chain in 2 years.

You still need a "kitchen manager" to tend the robots and do the things they aren't programmed for... but for every 3-4 robots you only need one manager. Instead of 4-5 people working the kitchen.

What do you think those former burger-flippers will do for work now? Whatever it is, they just increased the competition for all those entry-level jobs.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/03/08/bur ... ot-flippy/

Image

Image
BEHOLD... THE DRIVE THRU T.V. DINNER

edit to add... that deserves a song

T.V. Dinners
ZZ Top
TV dinners there's nothin' else to eat
TV dinners they really can't be beat
I like 'em frozen but you understand
I throw 'em in and wave 'em and I'm a brand new man oh yeah!
TV dinners they're goin' to my head
TV dinners my skin is turnin' red
Twenty year old turkey in a thirty year old tin
I can't wait until tomorrow.... and thaw one out again oh yeah!
TV dinners I'm feelin' kinda rough
TV dinners this one's kinda tough
I like the enchiladas and the teriaki too
I even like the chicken if.... the sauce is not too blue.
And they're mine, all mine, oh yeah
And they sure are fine.
Gotta have 'em
Gimme somethin' now.
As of now I bet you got me wrong

John Titor was right

MPMalloy
ZS Member
ZS Member
Posts: 3301
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:48 am

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by MPMalloy » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:33 pm

fuck

User avatar
ZombieGranny
* * * * *
Posts: 7392
Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:53 pm
Favorite Zombie Movies: eh - heck with it, I'm not leaving - I like it here, and the regular folks like me being here.
Location: PNW

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by ZombieGranny » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:19 pm

sigh.
I should have known better than to try to be serious in this thread.
Perhaps it should go in Off Topic, as it seems to be a joke thread.

I will bow out of it, never fear.
Last edited by ZombieGranny on Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:43 pm, edited 2 times in total.
In my day, we didn't have virtual reality.
If a one-eyed razorback barbarian warrior was chasing you with an ax, you just had to hope you could outrun him.
-
Preps buy us time. Time to learn how and time to remember how. Time to figure out what is a want, what is a need.

User avatar
flybynight
* * * * *
Posts: 2189
Joined: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:30 am

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by flybynight » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:19 pm

ZombieGranny wrote:I always approved of Henry Ford.
He maintained that his workers must be paid enough to be able to buy the vehicles they made.
Yea , I'm sure the burger restaurant companies will pass the savings from employee cost reduction on to the consumers. Right? Because otherwise that would make the persons who buy their food, tools
As of now I bet you got me wrong

John Titor was right

MPMalloy
ZS Member
ZS Member
Posts: 3301
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:48 am

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by MPMalloy » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:59 pm

flybynight wrote:
ZombieGranny wrote:I always approved of Henry Ford.
He maintained that his workers must be paid enough to be able to buy the vehicles they made.
Yea , I'm sure the burger restaurant companies will pass the savings from employee cost reduction on to the consumers. Right? Because otherwise that would make the persons who buy their food, tools
Henry Ford wasn't the first person to invent the automobile, but he was the first person to apply "Tune-Ups" to his workers.

User avatar
NamelessStain
* * * * *
Posts: 2656
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:08 am
Location: Coastal SC

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by NamelessStain » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:54 am

The buggers are already plotting! :)


https://www.afp.com/en/news/2265/robots ... -tech-show
It was a spooky sight: two lifelike disembodied robot torsos discussing the pros and cons of humans in front of a nervously tittering audience in Hong Kong Wednesday.

Artificial intelligence is the dominant theme at this year's sprawling RISE tech conference at the city's harbourfront convention centre, but the live robot exchange took the AI debate to another level.

Handsome male humanoid Han, dressed in a pinstripe suit jacket, and his elegant sister Sophia, modelled on Audrey Hepburn, chatted onstage about life in the universe and everything, from their love of science fiction to their bewilderment at "silly" reality shows.

While chief scientist Ben Goertzel of Hong Kong-based Hanson Robotics, which invented the machines, sang their praises, the robots seemed more sceptical of their human peers.

When Goertzel asked the duo whether robots could really be moral and ethical, Han countered: "Humans are not necessarily the most ethical creatures".

The robot later pointed out: "In 10 or 20 years, robots will be able to do every human job."

A gentler Sophia conceded that humans do have "some ability to reflect and self-modify".

She insisted her aim was to work together with people, before Han "joked" he thought the robots' goal was to take over the world.

The machines had been programmed to banter and learn from each other, and had been trained to act like humans from movies and YouTube, said Goertzel.

Their malleable skin is controlled by dozens of motors, while computers in their torsos help with vision and movement. They can also connect to wifi to use cloud computing, where they will eventually share a vast amount of knowledge, Goertzel said.

Robots could be "as smart as people" in as little as three years, he predicted.

According to robot mastermind David Hanson, CEO and founder of Hanson Robotics, the machines' onstage repartee was only part scripted and is just a taste of things to come.

He said he wanted them to "emotionally engage" with people -- Sophia has already graced the cover of fashion magazines, sung at pop concerts and appeared on television talk shows.

"This is a kind of character animation that can come to life in our world," Hanson told AFP.

Robots would be able to work with humans in factories, customer service and medicine but would also become our friends, said Hanson, who did not rule out eventual robot-human romantic relationships.

"As the AI matches and exceeds human levels of intelligence we hope they'll help us solve the world's great problems," he added.

However, Hanson acknowledged there were fears over what the future could hold.

"There's reasonable speculation that if we don't build machines that really care, they'll have motives of their own," he said, adding that it was important to openly discuss how to develop AI that is "inherently safe and good and caring".
jnathan wrote:Since we lost some posts due to some database work I'll just put this here for posterity.
Q wrote:Buckle up

User avatar
teotwaki
ZS Member
ZS Member
Posts: 4131
Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:58 pm
Contact:

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by teotwaki » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:41 am

This thread always makes me recall some old comic books I read a long time ago.

Image

I don't think that human physical strength has kept pace with machine strength so we'll need some sort of exoskeleton to fight robots.

Image

Might as well throw in the ability to fly

My adventures and pictures are on my blog http://suntothenorth.blogspot.com

User avatar
Stercutus
* * * * *
Posts: 12142
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:16 pm
Location: Bouncing in to Graceland

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by Stercutus » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:46 pm

I don't think that human physical strength has kept pace with machine strength so we'll need some sort of exoskeleton to fight robots.
Your strategy of using the computer controlled exoskeleton to fight robots may have a critical flaw.

The robot later pointed out: "In 10 or 20 years, robots will be able to do every human job.
So they said 20, 30, 40 years ago.

I remember, I was there.
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be rememberèd—
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother

MPMalloy
ZS Member
ZS Member
Posts: 3301
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:48 am

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by MPMalloy » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:18 pm

Stercutus wrote:
I don't think that human physical strength has kept pace with machine strength so we'll need some sort of exoskeleton to fight robots.
Your strategy of using the computer controlled exoskeleton to fight robots may have a critical flaw.

The robot later pointed out: "In 10 or 20 years, robots will be able to do every human job.
So they said 20, 30, 40 years ago.

I remember, I was there.
We need handheld railgun tech & EMP to fight the robot/AI threat. :D

User avatar
flybynight
* * * * *
Posts: 2189
Joined: Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:30 am

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by flybynight » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:15 pm

MPMalloy wrote:
Stercutus wrote:
I don't think that human physical strength has kept pace with machine strength so we'll need some sort of exoskeleton to fight robots.
Your strategy of using the computer controlled exoskeleton to fight robots may have a critical flaw.

The robot later pointed out: "In 10 or 20 years, robots will be able to do every human job.
So they said 20, 30, 40 years ago.

I remember, I was there.
We need handheld railgun tech & EMP to fight the robot/AI threat. :D
OR a big rain storm and a corner on the wd-40 market.
As of now I bet you got me wrong

John Titor was right

MPMalloy
ZS Member
ZS Member
Posts: 3301
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:48 am

Re: Robot Uprising - Or, what to do when AI Does All The Job

Post by MPMalloy » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:19 pm

flybynight wrote:
MPMalloy wrote:
Stercutus wrote:
I don't think that human physical strength has kept pace with machine strength so we'll need some sort of exoskeleton to fight robots.
Your strategy of using the computer controlled exoskeleton to fight robots may have a critical flaw.

The robot later pointed out: "In 10 or 20 years, robots will be able to do every human job.
So they said 20, 30, 40 years ago.

I remember, I was there.
We need handheld railgun tech & EMP to fight the robot/AI threat. :D
OR a big rain storm and a corner on the wd-40 market.
:mrgreen:

Post Reply

Return to “What Would You Do?”