Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

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1. Leave now in good weather at a fast pace
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2. Leave later in bad weather at a fast pace
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3. Leave now at slow pace
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4. Leave later in bad weather at a slow pace.
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Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by The Twizzler » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:45 pm

Ok, so the set up is you are on one side of your country and for some reason you have to make it to the opposite side of your country. If you live near the middle, well, pick one side.For some of you this will be very hard (Russians you have my deepest sympathy) and for some it might not be that hard at all (Damn you! Luxembourg). The question is how are you gonna do it? I know most of the forums members are Americans like me but I am especially interested in members from other countries. Lets say it is the typical shamblers but the split is 75 zombies to 25 people on average. You will have to take weather, terrain, supplies, zombies, humans both good and bad into account. I am thinking along the lines of the classic game Oregon Trail. You can leave now when the weather is good but at the same time as everyone else. You can wait for the bad weather season in your country (whatever that weather problem may be) and if you have nice weather all year round well..... floods, you get floods, deal with it. You can keep the pace fast (with increased mistakes and accidents) or slow (you are in danger for longer).
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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by majorhavoc » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:57 pm

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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by teotwaki » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:34 am

4. Leave later in bad weather at a slow pace

I've been to Europe and as much as I like it I would rather trek across the whole US and have one language and (almost) one culture to deal with. I chose #4 because there is no rushing a 3,000 mile trek and there is sure to be bad weather along the way. Leaving in bad weather might help me get by more shamblers and bad humans unseen. I am not in such a hurry that I want to risk more mistakes and more accidents in an attempt to lessen danger that might not yet be present.
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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by raptor » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:46 am

My initial reaction would be to haul ass ASAP. In the US you can drive coast to coast in about 36 hours if you drive 24/7 and assuming no delays and can get fuel.

Leaving as early as possible would give you a higher probability of success.

The other thing I would do is buy 6 gas cans which would give the option of driving a greater distance between refueling.

However, What I would do is call an aircraft charter company at my location and charter a plane with my AMEX card. Even the slowest turbo prop can fly coast to coast in a long day assuming one or two refueling stops. A single engine recip will take longer but you can still make it 18+/- hours.

Many of the GA airports with fuel are not near large population centers. So you can stop in Podunk, CO and Podunk AR to refuel as opposed to driving through a major metro area.

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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by teotwaki » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:27 pm

Heck, I thought this was an apocalyptic foot race. I have one of these Bonanza V35Bs on tap with a turbo upgrade engine, a glass cockpit and a prepper pilot. Maybe we can fly the ZS Air Force in formation on the way out.. :mrgreen:

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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by raptor » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:36 pm

I was thinking more along the lines of a King Air C-90 or Piper Cheyenne since they do a lot of Part 135 charter hauling, but yes a Bonanza would also work assuming not too many people were needing transport.

I can even legally fly the Bonanza if I had lawful permission, whereas I have no such type rating for twins or turbine aircraft.

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Post by teotwaki » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:40 pm

raptor wrote:I was thinking more along the lines of a King Air C-90 or Piper Cheyenne since they do a lot of Part 135 charter hauling, but yes a Bonanza would also work assuming not too many people were needing transport.

I can even legally fly the Bonanza if I had lawful permission, whereas I have no such type rating for twins or turbine aircraft.
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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by raptor » Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:40 pm

The ones in the part 135 charter trade tend to be a lot older and more tired looking that nice factory fresh C-90 GT (with winglets no less).

Kinda like this 1968 model. :D

http://www.controller.com/listings/airc ... ng-air-b90
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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by Stercutus » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:13 pm

However, What I would do is call an aircraft charter company at my location and charter a plane with my AMEX card. Even the slowest turbo prop can fly coast to coast in a long day assuming one or two refueling stops. A single engine recip will take longer but you can still make it 18+/- hours.
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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by Hiroshima_Morphine » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:15 pm

I'd go for something with STOL and back country capability, like a Maule.

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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by teotwaki » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:20 am

Hiroshima_Morphine wrote:I'd go for something with STOL and back country capability, like a Maule.

Wow, this went off topic FAST!
Very interesting choice. STOL is a good point.

As to on-topic? That means you choose a poll answer and post just once to explain your choice (and never post again) :mrgreen:
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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by wamba » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:09 pm

I'd wait a while & set a slow & steady pace. Not necessarily because of a grand insight or master plan, mostly because I know me & how I am. I'd leave late because I'd want to try to stack the deck as much as possible in my favor this would mean going through my equipment a couple of times trying to guess what I forgot. I'd travel slowly because that's what I do (& I'm getting older & fatter). However I'm a firm believer in the slow & steady approach when traveling on foot & solo. Years of still hunting whitetails has taught me that the guy taking his time notices more & is noticed less.

I have mixed emotions on seeing the discussion about chartering a plane. On the one hand it's nice to have others come up with the same plan, kinda vindicates my thought process. Not to mention it might save the day for like minded people. On the other hand it'll possibly mean competition at the charter desk if I ever need to implement it. :wink:

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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by ManInBlack316 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:46 pm

I'm leaving now before bad weather at a fast place, location is central FL destination is southern IL, I need to get a move on :crazy:
Bad weather for me means a raging hurricane, very unsafe to drive in, even if it does make the zeds go swimming/flying.
Got close family in the country in IL.

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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by ineffableone » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:47 pm

I have thought a bit about this concept when I was out on the East Coast. The East Coast is just so population dense that in a serious collapse it would be a very dangerous place.

Two options I came up with that would depend on what the season is.

Option 1) Take a boat down the coast and across the Gulf to Texas and then travel the rest of the way by foot or other vehicles to the West Coast. This would be the better option if SHTF happened in fall or winter as it follows a warmer climate route.

Option 2) Head North into Canada and follow the Trans Canada highway which goes across Canada fairly close to the boarder. Canada is a much lower population country, and generally friendlier nicer people there too. As well as much more wilderness and natural resources. Also Further North you go the distance from East to West is smaller. This would be a spring or summer route, as there are plenty of mountain passes and it runs through a colder climate.

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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by teotwaki » Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:21 pm

ineffableone wrote: Option 2) Head North into Canada and follow the Trans Canada highway which goes across Canada fairly close to the boarder. Canada is a much lower population country, and generally friendlier nicer people there too. As well as much more wilderness and natural resources. Also Further North you go the distance from East to West is smaller. This would be a spring or summer route, as there are plenty of mountain passes and it runs through a colder climate.
Nice plan and graphic. A question: Would it be difficult to get back into the states by crossing below Victoria (boat/ferry?) or would it be better to cross by car or on foot somewhere sooner, into Idaho or Washington?
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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by ineffableone » Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:33 pm

teotwaki wrote:
ineffableone wrote: Option 2) Head North into Canada and follow the Trans Canada highway which goes across Canada fairly close to the boarder. Canada is a much lower population country, and generally friendlier nicer people there too. As well as much more wilderness and natural resources. Also Further North you go the distance from East to West is smaller. This would be a spring or summer route, as there are plenty of mountain passes and it runs through a colder climate.
Nice plan and graphic. A question: Would it be difficult to get back into the states by crossing below Victoria (boat/ferry?) or would it be better to cross by car or on foot somewhere sooner, into Idaho or Washington?
You would likely want to cross at Blaine WA (I-5 boarder crossing), or some other spot that is more rural. There are several more rural boarder crossings on the Western side of WA & BC. You need a boat or plane to get to Vancouver Island so no reason to even go there if you don't have to. For me, I would have been heading to Eastern WA area anyways. So I would have crossed back into the States in Eastern WA, there is actually other highways that are further south into the Okanogan region of BC and WA that connect to the Trans Canadian Highway. There is also of course rivers that run North to South from BC into WA, the Columbia for example, which could be followed or traveled upon.
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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by Mad Mike » Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:12 pm

If I have to leave it needs to be now, and I'll be going slow. Health issues give me no options. :ohdear:

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Post by The Twizzler » Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:25 pm

No, you won't. I said one side to the other. If you start in FL that means you end up in..... Alaska ( I would have said south California but you didn't read :lol: )



ManInBlack316 wrote:I'm leaving now before bad weather at a fast place, location is central FL destination is southern IL, I need to get a move on :crazy:
Bad weather for me means a raging hurricane, very unsafe to drive in, even if it does make the zeds go swimming/flying.
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Post by ZombieGranny » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:36 pm

I read the OP.
You did not say "opposite corner" you said "opposite side".
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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by teotwaki » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:01 am

The Twizzler wrote:Ok, so the set up is you are on one side of your country and for some reason you have to make it to the opposite side of your country.
Is this limited to just the lower 48 in America? A glutton for danger could start from Miami, Florida and head up to Point Hope, Alaska :v:
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Post by The Twizzler » Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:59 pm

See above, it depends on if you read the original post and also what mood I am in.
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Post by Halfapint » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:04 pm

If I had to cross the country (dunno why, only my estranged uncle is on the east coast). I could want to hold out as long as possible and go in late summer. I'd probably travel moderate to fast just being in unknown areas I would be hesitant. As stated by ineffableone I would try to get into Canada and go across that way.

However seeing as how I have no one on the east coast and the high density of the east coast, that travel would be dead last on my list. I'd more likely try to get up to SE Alaska with aunt and uncle. But that's another thread.
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Post by Evan the Diplomat » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:53 pm

ineffableone wrote:...SNIP...

Option 2) Head North into Canada and follow the Trans Canada highway which goes across Canada fairly close to the boarder. Canada is a much lower population country, and generally friendlier nicer people there too. ...SNIP..

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Re: Let's say you have to cross the country in the ZPAW

Post by ineffableone » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:59 pm

The Twizzler wrote:See above, it depends on if you read the original post and also what mood I am in.
You do realize your not in your parents basement GMing a roleplaying game right? You proposed a what if question on a forum, that does not mean you control how people respond to your post. Folks will give their answers not depending on your mood.

Also I notice while you seem to enjoy coming up with this very unlikely scenario, you did not bother to post your own reply to your own what if. Now I have posted a few what ifs, and understand not wanting to offer your own answer right away. Let others answer first. But you have had this posted up for a bit and have yet to give your own way how you would cross the country.
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