Keeping a trailer safe

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Keeping a trailer safe

Post by SCBrian » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:13 am

Tossing this out to the Hive mind (Mods please move if there is a better section)

There have been a number of enclosed trailers in the area stolen over the last few weeks. Broad daylight, out of the owners driveways, etc. I've felt pretty secure since I have a coupler lock on mine:
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We had one just up the road stolen Monday that had one. :vmad: They apparently cut through the top bar. In my reading, I've also discovered that some wont even bother to cut, just hook up under/behind it. So... I'm looking for something that would immobilize the trailer. Homebrew or not. I'm looking at a boot, but want to see what the hive mind can come up with.
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Trailer is a single axle 6x10 enclosed trailer with barn doors, and a 1 7/8 hitch.
Daylight theft from residential neighborhoods
Thieves have at least some sort of cutting implements (waiting on an email back on the specific way it was cut, grinder, bolt cutters, etc...)
Thieves may just lift the front and ride...

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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by Mikeyboy » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:25 am

Ironically, this question came up before. Here is an old thread. Don't worry, you would have never found it in a search just based on the title.

viewtopic.php?f=39&t=109067&hilit=trailer

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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by SCBrian » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:41 am

My concern is if they are already working with cutting equipment or bolt cutters, the "chain to a slab" method wont work. :( I do remember that thread though.
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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by DarkAxel » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:47 am

Take a tire and wheel hub off of the trailer when you aren't using it.
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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by ZMace » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:15 pm

You can get a tire boot off of amazon for much cheaper than the replacement cost of a trailer, pretty tough to remove those things, depending on the style.

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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by Mikeyboy » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:51 pm

You could put up security cameras either real or good fake ones. On top of everything else mentioned it might dissuade a thief from even trying. If the do attempt something the video could also be used to catch them

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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by Ordinary » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:11 pm

I have this cheap DIY motion alarm on my bike. It works very well.

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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by Murphman » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:55 pm

You could always hang a sign on the trailer that says "Smile for the camera"

Maybe a boot on each wheel and the coupler lock?
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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by SRO1911 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:04 pm

Lojack the frame

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plus a straight talk sim card, keep the info and activate it only when you need it.

Locks are at best a deterrent, they slow a theif down enough to hopefully make them seek out an easier target - there is no such thing as absolute security - however - by locating your property, and the one who took it - you MAY remove yet another thief from circulation.

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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by TheZone » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:47 pm

Removing a tire is good. Boots are not so great, as unless you put a lot of money into them the lock is very vulnerable (my agency found this out the hard way).

Locks, as noted, just slow a thief down. Definitely have them, but the best IME is to make it hard to move the trailer. I have mine up on blocks, which helps extended the tire life. Check your city ords first (the abandoned vehicle definitions) but I pull my LP too. Nobody wants to haul a stolen trailer with no LP.
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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by M_Angell » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:11 pm

A trick we used to use when I worked construction was to chain the wheels together. Now if they are using an angle grinder pretty much anything you put on there is vulnerable. Also depending on what your wheels look like this might not be very easy to do.

I've found that if you can make it difficult to move they will most likely just try to get inside. Instead of immobilizing your trailer try making it unsafe to take. Remove all of the lug nuts for instance, one or two turns and that wheel will fall off. Try leaving the trailer on jack stands or blocks as stated.
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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by SCBrian » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:44 pm

TheZone wrote:Removing a tire is good. Boots are not so great, as unless you put a lot of money into them the lock is very vulnerable (my agency found this out the hard way).

Locks, as noted, just slow a thief down. Definitely have them, but the best IME is to make it hard to move the trailer. I have mine up on blocks, which helps extended the tire life. Check your city ords first (the abandoned vehicle definitions) but I pull my LP too. Nobody wants to haul a stolen trailer with no LP.
What was the issue you were having with boots? The ones I'm looking at cover the lugnuts so you cant pull the tire...

Just had another local one stolen that was secured and chained to a tree as well. :(
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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by JeeperCreeper » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:47 pm

If they are cutting, that really limits a lot of the tricks people have suggested and tricks I have used.

I would put the trailer on blocks/jackstands and remove the wheels. They can always cut somehing of, but they can't always add something on.

You can always add a game camera/cheap surveillance camera nearby as well to catch the thief if they do get creative and steal stuff from the inside. But I would still buy the best chains and padlocks to slow them down or deter them from trying.
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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by TheZone » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:43 pm

SCBrian wrote:
TheZone wrote:Removing a tire is good. Boots are not so great, as unless you put a lot of money into them the lock is very vulnerable (my agency found this out the hard way).

Locks, as noted, just slow a thief down. Definitely have them, but the best IME is to make it hard to move the trailer. I have mine up on blocks, which helps extended the tire life. Check your city ords first (the abandoned vehicle definitions) but I pull my LP too. Nobody wants to haul a stolen trailer with no LP.
What was the issue you were having with boots? The ones I'm looking at cover the lugnuts so you cant pull the tire...

Just had another local one stolen that was secured and chained to a tree as well. :(
Using a battery-powered drill to defeat the lock. Drill out the key socket and it often disengages the lock. And the ones we had, the key area was fairly soft metal. Given the amount we paid for them, it was quite a disappointment.
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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by SCBrian » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:53 pm

TheZone wrote:
SCBrian wrote:
TheZone wrote:Removing a tire is good. Boots are not so great, as unless you put a lot of money into them the lock is very vulnerable (my agency found this out the hard way).

Locks, as noted, just slow a thief down. Definitely have them, but the best IME is to make it hard to move the trailer. I have mine up on blocks, which helps extended the tire life. Check your city ords first (the abandoned vehicle definitions) but I pull my LP too. Nobody wants to haul a stolen trailer with no LP.
What was the issue you were having with boots? The ones I'm looking at cover the lugnuts so you cant pull the tire...

Just had another local one stolen that was secured and chained to a tree as well. :(
Using a battery-powered drill to defeat the lock. Drill out the key socket and it often disengages the lock. And the ones we had, the key area was fairly soft metal. Given the amount we paid for them, it was quite a disappointment.
Gotcha. I'm going to hit up some of the local tow truck company and PD's and see if they have any surplus ones they would like to donate. Otherwise pulling tires/hubs seems to be the best solution so far :( just a pain in the rear. I'm considered 'county' not city where I am, so it's not a major deal and it'd take a pretty brazen cop to complain about a BoyScout trail on a block with the thefts... :)
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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by Norwegian » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:35 am

I've seen some people taking the hitch of, depending of the type it may be just two bolts.

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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by Stercutus » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:23 pm

At work we remove the hitch and then use a special tool to jack up legs at the corners to get it off the ground. You have to really, really want it.
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Re: Keeping a trailer safe

Post by Redacted » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:02 pm

If you're not using a Weight Distribution type hitch then you might consider changing from a ball to a pintle hitch. They're way less common and unless you have a pintle reciever you aren't going anywhere with the trailer.

If you are using a weight distribution hitch you might consider changing the ball and reciever size to something less common, but still rated for your trailer weight. (Class 4 to a Class 5 for example).
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