So, you live in town. On Wednesday you wake up and get in your car to drive to work and your BOB is gone along with all your goodies because you forgot to lock your car and ... meth. You have a video camera covering your driveway but all you can see is an older teenager wearing a white hoodie on a dark colored bicycle riding off with your stuff.
Early Friday morning before sun up you go out on your front porch and see an older teenager wearing a white hoodie pushing a dark colored bicycle up your street. He has a shotgun strapped to his back and several odd backpacks strapped to the bicycle. WWYD, if anything at all?
Man With a Shotgun
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Man With a Shotgun
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MacWa77ace
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Re: Man With a Shotgun
Does anything look like its yours?
Is open carry legal in this town?
Yes/Yes
Confront. Confirm. Citizens arrest.
Yes/No
Call Cops, Confront. Confirm. Citizens arrest.
No/Yes
Nothing
No/No
Call cops.
Is open carry legal in this town?
Yes/Yes
Confront. Confirm. Citizens arrest.
Yes/No
Call Cops, Confront. Confirm. Citizens arrest.
No/Yes
Nothing
No/No
Call cops.
Re: Man With a Shotgun
911 right off the bat. I'm not doing anything else because...reasons.
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woodsghost
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Re: Man With a Shotgun
I reported the items as Stolen, right?
Call cops.
It looks like my stuff? Probably put on a pistol and get in the car. Drive around the neighborhood nonchalantly while on the phone with police.
Engagement would be avoided.
Based on past experience, the police would not appreciate my being in the car.
Call cops.
It looks like my stuff? Probably put on a pistol and get in the car. Drive around the neighborhood nonchalantly while on the phone with police.
Engagement would be avoided.
Based on past experience, the police would not appreciate my being in the car.
*Remember: I'm just a guy on the internet 
*Don't go to stupid places with stupid people & do stupid things.
*Be courteous. Look normal. Be in bed by 10'clock.
“It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to.” -Bilbo Baggins.
*Don't go to stupid places with stupid people & do stupid things.
*Be courteous. Look normal. Be in bed by 10'clock.
“It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to.” -Bilbo Baggins.
Re: Man With a Shotgun
Observe carefully to ensure that what I am seeing is a shotgun. Note I would consider the fact that he is pushing the heavily ladened bike as indicative of either exhaustion, overloaded ill balanced bike or he is looking for a place to dump it or rest. The shouldered shotgun is going to be difficult to remove while keeping the bike upright. So if he drops the bike that is an indicator he may be going for the shotgun, which gives me time to find cover. Either way he is not going to get too far with all of that stuff.
Call 911 to report it.
Use my phone to video the person from a safe distance. Avoid contact.
Aggressively avoid any close quarter contact.
I would retreat into the house and up until the point the point the shotgun was brandished no CCW would be drawn.
Document with video to the extent possible while waiting for LEOs.
Note at my home the JPSO would be there in 3 to 5 minutes. At my office the NOPD would not show up. At my farm I would take the extra step to see if he was wearing any hunter orange and if not all the local Wildflife and Fisheries poacher line and they would have someone there ASAP.
So at home the guy would be questioned and/or dealt with by JPSO.
At work my stuff would be gone and the NOPD would not give shit, unless of course I made an attempt to recover it.
At the farm the MWF guys would find him quickly to talk to him.
Call 911 to report it.
Use my phone to video the person from a safe distance. Avoid contact.
Aggressively avoid any close quarter contact.
I would retreat into the house and up until the point the point the shotgun was brandished no CCW would be drawn.
Document with video to the extent possible while waiting for LEOs.
Note at my home the JPSO would be there in 3 to 5 minutes. At my office the NOPD would not show up. At my farm I would take the extra step to see if he was wearing any hunter orange and if not all the local Wildflife and Fisheries poacher line and they would have someone there ASAP.
So at home the guy would be questioned and/or dealt with by JPSO.
At work my stuff would be gone and the NOPD would not give shit, unless of course I made an attempt to recover it.
At the farm the MWF guys would find him quickly to talk to him.
Re: Man With a Shotgun
Call 911.
Get a better picture, if practical (e.g. subtly). Post to e.g. Imgur, to prevent unauthorized access to my phone (at the federal level, cops can just poke around your phone even if you give it to them for a specific reason).
(Note that this is why, despite the potential convenience, I don't use my insurance app for identification.)
Get a better picture, if practical (e.g. subtly). Post to e.g. Imgur, to prevent unauthorized access to my phone (at the federal level, cops can just poke around your phone even if you give it to them for a specific reason).
(Note that this is why, despite the potential convenience, I don't use my insurance app for identification.)
Re: Man With a Shotgun
I live across the street from a school. I'm not opposed to open carry, but these days it's insanity to openly carry a long arm near a school. I'm calling 911, going inside my house, and filming from the window if I can.
I'm also blocks from the police station. They'll be there real fast.
I'm also blocks from the police station. They'll be there real fast.
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Re: Man With a Shotgun
In light of current reality, I would not have left gear vital to my survival overnight in a vehicle. Especially an unlocked vehicle.
Second thought. With the civil unrest in our cities today and the uncertainty of the police even showing up, you might well have some serious decisions make, as to how you will proceed. I am sure it’s prudent to keep your own counsel.
Second thought. With the civil unrest in our cities today and the uncertainty of the police even showing up, you might well have some serious decisions make, as to how you will proceed. I am sure it’s prudent to keep your own counsel.
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Firemedic2000
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Re: Man With a Shotgun
Ding ding we have a winner here with common sense. Never leave anything in your vehicle you value.Mannlicher wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:29 amIn light of current reality, I would not have left gear vital to my survival overnight in a vehicle. Especially an unlocked vehicle.
Second thought. With the civil unrest in our cities today and the uncertainty of the police even showing up, you might well have some serious decisions make, as to how you will proceed. I am sure it’s prudent to keep your own counsel.