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 Post subject: Re: The Ruins of Detroit
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:03 pm 
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Detroit does still have a few pleasant oases. There's Greektown, and the DIA (Detroit Institute of Arts), and the Fisher and Fox Theatres, and the Opera House. But the rest of it is pretty scary.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ruins of Detroit
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Yes, Flint is getting just as bad. While not nearly as culturally diverse as Detroit in it's day, Flint did have some things going for it.

We have a saying in my part of the Big Mitten:

When something bad happens people in Saginaw say "Well, at least we're not Flint!"

People in Flint say "At least we're not Detroit!"

One jewel in Detroit that is still operating but has seen better days is the Masonic Temple. The place is absolutely huge, taking up at least three city blocks. There are rooms in the place that have been forgotten and left locked for who knows how long. They still hold plays and the like in it's theater.

Too bad the neighborhood around it is a no man's land, literally. If the buildings around it are not abandoned they are barred and surrounded by razor wire. No joke. It looks like WWI bunkers and trenchworks.

I know some folks who were there during the Riots in '67. They don't like to talk about it.




If anyone is interested in the masonic temple:

http://www.themasonic.com/history.html

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http://www.themasonic.com/specialevents.html#photos

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link because it's too big. http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/3507400.jpg

This is a beautiful place...It LOOKS like a great place to make a stand and live out your days in the PAW if you had enough people. ;) But that's another conversation.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ruins of Detroit
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Thanks for the pics of the Masonic Temple. Those are some nice shots and conveys how big the place is!

There are at least three full size ball rooms in the place that I know of. I have been in two of them.

I forget how many different Masonic lodges met within that building, each one having it's own set of rooms.

At the main entrance, there is a large brass medallion inlaid into the floor. They now have it roped off because of thousands of footsteps have nearly worn in away.

Here is a page and pic about it:
http://www.themasonic.com/history.html
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 Post subject: Re: The Ruins of Detroit
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Detroit does still have a few pleasant oases. There's Greektown, and the DIA (Detroit Institute of Arts), and the Fisher and Fox Theatres, and the Opera House. But the rest of it is pretty scary.



Agreed. The DIA has a Diego Rivera mural and some one-of-a-kind artifacts, including armor and early firearms.

Greektown is always a good time. Flaming cheese, anyone?

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 Post subject: Re: The Ruins of Detroit
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I've been to some good shows at Masonic Temple Auditorium.

A joke around my neighborhood was that "Opa!" is Greek for, "Oh my God! Your cheese is on fire!"

Love that Diego Rivera mural. The French Gothic chapel is quite something, too.

That settles it...when I go back to Michigan for the holidays, I'll have to make time for an afternoon at the DIA and dinner at the New Parthenon.

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That looks as bad as some russian cities... :shock:

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Wow, those photos are crazy.


eta: Someone needs to shoot a zombie movie in Detroit.



They did Zombie Land was filmed here last year.


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Wow, those photos are crazy.


eta: Someone needs to shoot a zombie movie in Detroit.



They did Zombie Land was filmed here last year.

I'll be seeing that soon. Thanks for the tip, so I'll nkow to be looking for stuff.

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I was at a bookstore tonight. The cover story on the current issue of Time is all about Detroit's condition.

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Dude. Awesome find.

I have a certain morbid fascination with abandoned urban blight. Abandoned buildings (and photos of them) can entertain me for an inordinately long time.

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Those pictures are great. Good inspiration for my book.

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Whoah, great find dogbane. I had heard Detroit was getting bad but DAMN, I had no idea...


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Another photographer, Kevin Bauman, has a page of Detroit photos called 100 Abandonded Houses. It was featured in a New York Times article.

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Bauman explains his project and also has prints available for purchase.

eta: Bauman's main web site: http://www.kevinbauman.com/

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I assure you those houses and buildings aren't abandoned, they are filled with drug-fed bums. Which might be more vicious than zombies.


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But you can solve the bum problem with a good ole' dose of lead, much like zombies :mrgreen:

All those abandoned homes... they're whispering... buy me!!

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But you can solve the bum problem with a good ole' dose of lead, much like zombies :mrgreen:

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You know better than to post something like that on this forum, especially on my thread. :evil:

Consider this my unofficial warning. We don't advocate murder here.

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I forget sometimes that other people don't really know how sideways things are in Detroit. The amount of urban exploration you can do here is staggering. I've lived south of the city for 27 years and still find new things to explore. Riding a bicycle downtown late Sunday night you can go quite a long time and never see another soul. A nice bike ride is highly recommended if you are in the area. PM me and I'll take you on a fine tour :D

You guys should check out the Urban wildlife film being shot here. http://www.vimeo.com/2371774 . A good friend is their location scout. The director has been in town from France for the summer shooting the rest of the footage. That video deserves its own thread I think.

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You guys should check out the Urban wildlife film being shot here. http://www.vimeo.com/2371774 . A good friend is their location scout. The director has been in town from France for the summer shooting the rest of the footage. That video deserves its own thread I think.

Thanks for sharing that link, that was just stunning. I just watched all 26 minutes. Deeply sad, and yet almost breathtaking in beauty, in everything - the buildings, the land, the perseverance of the people and the wildlife, the very simple fact that Mother Nature knows what to do, always. We can build cities full of asphalt and cement and brick and steel, fill them full of pollution and crime, and yet there she is, a little blade of grass poking through the sidewalk, reminding you that you're only temporary, and she's eternal.

I haven't gotten the chance to do any good urban exploring in a looong time. The last time I got to explore was checking out the area months after the OKC bombing (I lived there at the time; a story for another day). I could kick myself for having misplaced all the photos I took when I was there looking around.


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I heard a piece on NPR a few months ago ( I think it was Fresh Air) about a guy in Detroit who was in to the whole urban exploration thing , having done a lot of this myself , it caught my ear .

Anyway , he started entering shut down schools and was shocked to find that many of them were completely stocked with supplies . The district just closed the doors one day and left everything inside .

Although this goes totally against the rules of urban exploration , over time he wound up setting up contacts with teachers in active schools that would tell him about things they needed for their students and he would acquire them . We are talking abandoned art rooms stocked with supplies and teachers with none to give their students , or teachers using ten year old textbooks when there are cases of new editions sitting in a basement .

It was a very interesting show , I am gonna have to try and find a link to it .

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 Post subject: Re: The Ruins of Detroit
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whisk.e.rebellion wrote:
I'd live to move to Detroit buy some gorgeous old building for like $5,000, rehab it and open a restaurant. Then I realize I'd be in Detroit and have no customers.

These pictures remind me a lot of Rapture from Bioshock.

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Totally. I imagine it'd be cheap to pull all the permits and no set building necessary.


Jeff Daniels has been busting his ass trying to make Michigan a new hollywood, they've got tons and tons of skilled craftsmen who need work and lots of different usable scenery.

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eta: Someone needs to shoot a zombie movie in Detroit.



They did Zombie Land was filmed here last year.

According to the credits to Zombieland, it was filmed on location in Georgia. I didn't see any Detroit in it. So apparently, the city is still available for a cinematic apocalypse.

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Although this goes totally against the rules of urban exploration , over time he wound up setting up contacts with teachers in active schools that would tell him about things they needed for their students and he would acquire them . We are talking abandoned art rooms stocked with supplies and teachers with none to give their students , or teachers using ten year old textbooks when there are cases of new editions sitting in a basement .


I was wondering about that I figured that with exploration there was a no looting rule, Im just suprised Homeless and others havnt cleaned the place out. Is this a problem at all or are these places that explorers go to hard to get to?
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All those abandoned homes... they're whispering... buy me!!


A auction site (not ebay) i frequent has several no reserve one dollar open bid homes for sale at any given moment. Not like you could do anything with them, with the squatters and drug dealers using them. This is a great topic and the photos just keep my curiosity growing on the subject.

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I've seen that there is a different tense in Country Western vs Rap. Country talks about all the bad stuff happening in the past, like "My husband hit me and I left that piece of trash" while Rap is more "Gonna smack that bitch up".

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Even further down the abandonment timeline from Detroit: Gary, Indiana.

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