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"stay home" - why is this such a problem?

Post by tom q vaxy » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:48 pm

i'm single, no kids, retired, rent a studio apartment (20 years & counting), live on peanut butter sandwiches, coffee, & fruit, and have more interests than I can keep up with.

I don't understand how in the world people can complain about being bored. folks work all week, some two jobs, and weekends, too, so they can have, have, have. and when they're expected to chill out and sit tight for a few days, their world explodes because they have nothing to do.

don't people read anymore? want to have a bit of time to catch up on their hobbies? play with their dog, or kids?

I guess I really am getting old . . . . but at least i'm not bored! besides, bicycling season starts in a couple of weeks - YEAH!!!

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Re: "stay home" - why is this such a problem?

Post by majorhavoc » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:02 pm

tom q vaxy wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:48 pm
i'm single, no kids, retired, rent a studio apartment (20 years & counting), live on peanut butter sandwiches, coffee, & fruit, and have more interests than I can keep up with.

I don't understand how in the world people can complain about being bored. folks work all week, some two jobs, and weekends, too, so they can have, have, have. and when they're expected to chill out and sit tight for a few days, their world explodes because they have nothing to do.

don't people read anymore? want to have a bit of time to catch up on their hobbies? play with their dog, or kids?

I guess I really am getting old . . . . but at least i'm not bored! besides, bicycling season starts in a couple of weeks - YEAH!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsUifZQcyDo
Tens of thousands of people are out of jobs, pal. They're looking at rent/mortgage about to come due, food to put on the table, utilities to pay, a family to support. Maybe they're anxious about an aging parent or grandparent in an assisted living facility, or a relative with a respiratory problem. Maybe they're part of the gig economy with no community-minded employer offering paid leave. Maybe they're near retirement and see their 401(k) tanking. Others simply miss their coworkers, friends and neighbors. Or find fulfillment in their work. And we haven't even gotten to the people who are actually sick from this virus or know someone who is.

A global pandemic and a recession bound economy is not some sort of serendipitous stay-cation, an unexpected, extended snow day. Folks aren't bored; they're hurting out there; anxious, out of work, worried about how they're going to make ends meet.

That's just dandy that you're single, retired with no family responsibilities or apparently any financial concerns. And bully for you that the riding season is just around the corner ("YEAH!!!") It's not that simple for millions of others with actual responsibilities who are caught up in this shitstorm.

And FYI: this is most certainly not just for a "few days".

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Post by NT2C » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:30 pm

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Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:48 pm
i'm single, no kids, retired, rent a studio apartment (20 years & counting), live on peanut butter sandwiches, coffee, & fruit, and have more interests than I can keep up with.

I don't understand how in the world people can complain about being bored. folks work all week, some two jobs, and weekends, too, so they can have, have, have. and when they're expected to chill out and sit tight for a few days, their world explodes because they have nothing to do.

don't people read anymore? want to have a bit of time to catch up on their hobbies? play with their dog, or kids?

I guess I really am getting old . . . . but at least i'm not bored! besides, bicycling season starts in a couple of weeks - YEAH!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsUifZQcyDo
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Post by Stercutus » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:45 pm

Maybe they did it while I was asleep, but if they did better ask yourself what other rights they plan to take away next.
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Post by tom q vaxy » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:38 am

points taken

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Post by raptor » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:29 am

Tom let me point out something.

We are all happy you are fine and not stressed by this.

In fact that is great!

However the people who live near you may not be coping well. If that is the case, their "angst" may show up on your door step in one form or another.

Please do take care and be aware of current situation in your area.

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Post by flybynight » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:50 am

Is this like the video gammer who locks himself in his room for 8 days straight . And when he finally comes out is asked how he is coping with the virus quarantine replies What virus quarantine ?
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Post by MacWa77ace » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:20 am

flybynight wrote:
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Is this like the video gammer who locks himself in his room for 8 days straight . And when he finally comes out is asked how he is coping with the virus quarantine replies What virus quarantine ?
As long as i have internet, then me and some friends will be wearing out our PS4's if the 'stay at home' order is given.

plus I'm ordering a few parts i need for the cars, repairs and maintenance that are not dire but its time for front break pads, i already have the stuff for a full rear break job, and i have a leak in my valve cover gasket that I've been putting off for months 'cause i can always find something better to do than fix that. Reminds me its time for an oil change in that one too.

The gutters and fascia over the deck need replacing.
The side garage door replacement
the garage door opener.
Pressure wash the driveway and deck.
Trim the avocado tree for hurricane season.
Spring cleaning.
I have three books lined up to read. [The Stand is not one of them :mrgreen: ]

Then gaming. :clap: my precious.

My main challenge will be income, I don't get a retirement check. I'm still in my earning phase. And apparently I'm NOT in a NON-ESSENTIAL business and there isn't a 'stay at home' order here right now. But many of our customers' customers are non essential. I expect a drop off.

But I've been getting ahead the last 3 years by some fluke in the laws of nature or something, I definitely don't want to back up to the starting line again and start over.
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. . . . besides, bicycling season starts in a couple of weeks - YEAH!!!

Stay at home means no biking I think, so there's that. But I haven't read the individual state mandates for that edict. Maybe there's a 'biking excluded' clause.

If a tree bikes in the middle of the woods, does it break the 'stay at home' mandate?
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Post by tom q vaxy » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:46 am

I think it will be considered exercising alone, but the season for me goes until mid October so hopefully i'll be able to get a few rides in.

edit: whilst not wanting to break the overshadowing gloom, other forums which I belong are actually trying to focus on the positive and have suggested using found time to perform some of the activities I mentioned in the first post.

fools, they all. i'm putting on my hair shirt now. and where did I leave that boulder?

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Post by lailr » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:07 pm

In N.C., the stay home order lets folks leave home for Social Distance exercise.....

(I.E., kayak fishing, turkey hunting, and Honey-Do lists for me)

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Post by flybynight » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:57 pm

Kansas is requiring all out of state hunters and fishermen to self isolate for 14 days upon arriving in state. So if you wanted to go fishing for the day, it's going to be a 15 day trip :shock:
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Post by raptor2 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:39 pm

flybynight wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:57 pm
Kansas is requiring all out of state hunters and fishermen to self isolate for 14 days upon arriving in state. So if you wanted to go fishing for the day, it's going to be a 15 day trip :shock:
Bring a tent and fish for 15 days.
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Post by NT2C » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:02 pm

raptor2 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:39 pm
flybynight wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:57 pm
Kansas is requiring all out of state hunters and fishermen to self isolate for 14 days upon arriving in state. So if you wanted to go fishing for the day, it's going to be a 15 day trip :shock:
Bring a tent and fish for 15 days.
"Golly hon, well I sure did intend to get back from my one-day fishing trip to be home while your mother was quarantined with us, but I'm stuck here for 14 more days and there's nothing I can do about it." :awesome:
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Post by flybynight » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:11 pm

2020 Spring Turkey Season Notice
Spring seasons will continue as planned, including Kansas’ spring turkey season.
Hunters traveling from states listed on the Kansas Department of Health and Environment’s “Travel Quarantine List,” referenced here http://www.kdheks.gov/coronavirus, must self-quarantine upon arrival for 14 days prior to hunting and/or checking into a state park cabin.
Nonresident hunters who have purchased a spring turkey permit and are no longer able to travel to Kansas may get a refund by emailing kdwp.sales@ks.gov
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Post by Stercutus » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:26 pm

NT2C wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:02 pm
raptor2 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:39 pm
flybynight wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:57 pm
Kansas is requiring all out of state hunters and fishermen to self isolate for 14 days upon arriving in state. So if you wanted to go fishing for the day, it's going to be a 15 day trip :shock:
Bring a tent and fish for 15 days.
"Golly hon, well I sure did intend to get back from my one-day fishing trip to be home while your mother was quarantined with us, but I'm stuck here for 14 more days and there's nothing I can do about it." :awesome:
Make sure you quarantine for 14 days when you get back too!
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Post by PistolPete » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:53 am

I think people who are struggling fall into a few categories:

- Those who are broke because the government told them they can't work.

- Those who are troubled by new, fearful things

- Those who are troubled by authoritarian moves by governments.

Personally, I'm thriving. This came at a great time for me with planting season afoot. I'm working from home and I get to use my lunch breaks to work on my garden. I feel really terrible for all the people who are out of work and especially all the small business owners who may never open their doors again at the end of this. And even though my county and state are under a "stay at home" mandate, I've been just as active as before- stepping out at night to socialize, visiting the hardware store, shooting range trips and helping a friend work on a motorcycle. Other than ice rink closures preventing me from playing hockey, this panic is treating me quite well.
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Post by boskone » Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:33 pm

PistolPete wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:53 am
I think people who are struggling fall into a few categories:

- Those who are broke because the government told them they can't work.

- Those who are troubled by new, fearful things

- Those who are troubled by authoritarian moves by governments.
I think you forgot those who are highly social. I know a few people who are going cabin crazy, the type who consider sitting in a house with like 40 other people to be a good Friday evening.
Personally, I'm thriving. This came at a great time for me with planting season afoot. I'm working from home and I get to use my lunch breaks to work on my garden. I feel really terrible for all the people who are out of work and especially all the small business owners who may never open their doors again at the end of this. And even though my county and state are under a "stay at home" mandate, I've been just as active as before- stepping out at night to socialize, visiting the hardware store, shooting range trips and helping a friend work on a motorcycle. Other than ice rink closures preventing me from playing hockey, this panic is treating me quite well.
I've been resisting setting up a garden because I want to sell the house, and it seemed like a waste to put in the effort for something either I or the buyer would just tear up. With the market probably going to take a 12-18 month dump under the best case, maybe I'll set up a little garden with some herbs, maybe a tomato bush and some peppers.

Might have to put some brain sweat into maybe a stand, and the actual garden dirt in a plastic tote.

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