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French protest-en masse

Post by Sam Quint » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:22 pm

The French workforce united for a "Black Thursday" strike. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090129/wl ... ancestrike" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by frath0 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:38 pm

Hmmm, let's.... let's examine this. I kind of see WHY they're doing what they're doing, but I really fail to see how this helps.

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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by Sam Quint » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:15 pm

The French pretty much invented this sort of thing... lots of practice, I'll wager some of the older folks in the streets are veterans of the 1968 student riots.
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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by Sam Quint » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:15 pm

The French pretty much invented this sort of thing... lots of practice, I'll wager some of the older folks in the streets are veterans of the 1968 student riots.
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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by BB42924 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:15 pm

Looks like summer is starting a little early for the french this year. Seriously haven't they had massive riots every summer for the past 3 years or so?

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Post by nyiangelo » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:19 pm

Were so laid back here in the USA i'm scared to think of what it would take for us to riot like that. You would think it would already be happening.
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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by BB42924 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:25 pm

If we get to a point where we're rioting like that things have gone far past the point of no return.

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Post by thefirebuilds » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:51 pm

ah, God bless socialism.
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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by Panzershreke » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:54 pm

BB42924 wrote:Looks like summer is starting a little early for the french this year. Seriously haven't they had massive riots every summer for the past 3 years or so?
I guess the only thing you can compliment the french on is their consistency.

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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by quazi » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:25 am

I was told in my comparative politics class that one of the reasons why strikes and rioting are so common in France is that their political system makes directly communicating wishes to the legislature (writing letters, phone calls, etc.) nearly completely ineffective. This means the people often turn to strikes and riots to get their point across. (I'm not saying that I personally believe rioting to be a legitimate tactic, just that many people in France do.)

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Post by TravisM.1 » Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:15 am

I just saw a french weather report.

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Post by Duffman » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:03 am

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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by Tactical Raccoon » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:05 am

I HATE UNIONS!
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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by dogbane » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:17 am

Tactical Raccoon wrote:I HATE UNIONS!
That's nice. Y'know, some people here are union members and may or may not appreciate your sentiment. I'm not a union member, but I sure appreciate my 8-hour day, weekends, and workplace safety regulations. I appreciate that there is unemployment insurance as a safety net for me. I thank the unions for making these things possible.
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Post by Tactical Raccoon » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:30 am

dogbane wrote:
Tactical Raccoon wrote:I HATE UNIONS!
That's nice. Y'know, some people here are union members and may or may not appreciate your sentiment. I'm not a union member, but I sure appreciate my 8-hour day, weekends, and workplace safety regulations. I appreciate that there is unemployment insurance as a safety net for me. I thank the unions for making these things possible.
I know and I am not saying all unions are bad but I used to be in a union for years and glad I left after a lot of hassle and problems with them I vow never ever to join another union.
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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by mrdbeau » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:40 am

dogbane wrote:
Tactical Raccoon wrote:I HATE UNIONS!
That's nice. Y'know, some people here are union members and may or may not appreciate your sentiment. I'm not a union member, but I sure appreciate my 8-hour day, weekends, and workplace safety regulations. I appreciate that there is unemployment insurance as a safety net for me. I thank the unions for making these things possible.
I hear ya Dogbane, and unions were great in the late-19th/early-20th Century and served a legitimate purpose. On the other hand, about the only purpose unions currently serve is to be fundraising machines and lobbying groups for certain political parties.
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Post by dogbane » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:40 am

mrdbeau wrote:
dogbane wrote:
Tactical Raccoon wrote:I HATE UNIONS!
That's nice. Y'know, some people here are union members and may or may not appreciate your sentiment. I'm not a union member, but I sure appreciate my 8-hour day, weekends, and workplace safety regulations. I appreciate that there is unemployment insurance as a safety net for me. I thank the unions for making these things possible.
I hear ya Dogbane, and unions were great in the late-19th/early-20th Century and served a legitimate purpose. On the other hand, about the only purpose unions currently serve is to be fundraising machines and lobbying groups for certain political parties.
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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by Big A » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:26 pm

Back on topic, sorta/kinda, CNN mentioned this, as well as several
other riots/protests going on in quite a few nations.

The comment was also made about what it would take for things
to get to that point here, in the U.S.
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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by Ellie With An Axe » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:28 pm

Tactical Raccoon wrote:I HATE UNIONS!
I love onions cooked in olive oil with... oh wait, you said unions.

Oh, I LOL'ed at the French weather report. That is so absolutely French. I need to send that to my ex (French Canadian). Thanks for posting that.

I'm always curious as to why the French riot so much. So much, to me, means more than never, which is how much I've rioted. But I digress. Is it that they're rioting because the peaceful demonstrating and marching to the steps of the establishment have failed, or does their current political climate make those options of very little use for the purpose of making their desires known outright?

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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by TravisM.1 » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:09 pm

Tactical Raccoon wrote:I HATE UNIONS!
Me too.
Duffman wrote:The look on her face is priceless.
Yeah, like she's in the middle of saying "There'll be fire and overturned cars all over the place, but don't let it ruin your plans for the weekend.".
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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by crypto » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:36 am

mrdbeau wrote:
I hear ya Dogbane, and unions were great in the late-19th/early-20th Century and served a legitimate purpose. On the other hand, about the only purpose unions currently serve is to be fundraising machines and lobbying groups for certain political parties.
Or in 1997 when UPS was working everyone 38 hours a week so they could call them "part-time" and deny them benefits. I'm glad the Teamsters went on strike then, those people were getting fucked pretty hard. Now they have benefits.

I'm one of those guys who is not in a union but gets 2 weeks paid vacation plus the time between xmas eve and new years off every year, a pension, and outstanding health benefits because of the locations in my company that *are* union. I owe a lot of my comfy existence to them. Our company does well with an entirely unionized manufacturing staff, and many of the engineers unionized as well.
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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by TravisM.1 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:53 am

crypto wrote:
mrdbeau wrote:
I hear ya Dogbane, and unions were great in the late-19th/early-20th Century and served a legitimate purpose. On the other hand, about the only purpose unions currently serve is to be fundraising machines and lobbying groups for certain political parties.
Or in 1997 when UPS was working everyone 38 hours a week so they could call them "part-time" and deny them benefits. I'm glad the Teamsters went on strike then, those people were getting fucked pretty hard. Now they have benefits.
I worked at UPS when that was going on.
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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by mrdbeau » Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:38 am

crypto wrote:Or in 1997 when UPS was working everyone 38 hours a week so they could call them "part-time" and deny them benefits. I'm glad the Teamsters went on strike then, those people were getting fucked pretty hard. Now they have benefits.

I'm one of those guys who is not in a union but gets 2 weeks paid vacation plus the time between xmas eve and new years off every year, a pension, and outstanding health benefits because of the locations in my company that *are* union. I owe a lot of my comfy existence to them. Our company does well with an entirely unionized manufacturing staff, and many of the engineers unionized as well.
And for every example of something "good" a union has done, I can give you just as many, or more, examples of corruption, fraud, and generally unethical stuff done by union leaders. You think all the union corruption of the '60s and '70s ended with Hoffa? Union leaders could give a crap about the rank and file as long as they have their power, influence, and money. There's a reason union membership has been dropping consistently for 30 years.

But, as I said, I wouldn't even care much one way or the other if unions were something other than over glorified political fund raising committees that have certain politicians in their pockets.
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Re: French protest-en masse

Post by crypto » Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:26 pm

mrdbeau wrote: But, as I said, I wouldn't even care much one way or the other if unions were something other than over glorified political fund raising committees that have certain politicians in their pockets.
Big business has plenty of politicians in their pockets, if labor doesn't do the same they'll keep getting fucked on things like working conditions, unemployment insurance, workers compensation, and overtime.

It's not like management is this intrinsically fair oracle that's just getting shit on by the unions. They will happily fuck their employees to make a dollar, and then show them the door when the lube runs out.
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