Natural medical tools: Maggots

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Natural medical tools: Maggots

Post by kyle » Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:41 pm

Now that we've over used Antibiotics to the point of becoming almost immuse to it's effects we have to go back to the basics:

http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,128 ... _tophead_2
Wired.com wrote: hundreds of U.S. doctors have jumped on the low-tech maggot-therapy bandwagon, and the nation's leading producer of medical maggots has had to double production less than a year after the Food and Drug Administration approved the animals as bona fide medical devices. It seems that maggots, long neglected by medicine, have come back from the dead.
Learning how to cultivate this tool would be useful since, if society falls, a lot of us probably won't have easy access to labs to develop new drugs (if you know how to make them in the first place).

Why maggots? For those too lazy to read the article, the pests remove the dead flesh that your body would otherwise have to eject itself. Your body could be using this energy to heal and build scar tissue.

It will be important to learn how to cultivate them in a sterile environment so not to bring in contaminated maggots which might make the infection worse.
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Post by the lone swordsmen » Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:44 pm

what next leches? :shock:
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Post by kyle » Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:49 pm

the lone swordsmen wrote:what next leches? :shock:
Leeches were approved a few months ago:

http://my.webmd.com/content/article/89/100298.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5319129/
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Post by Hunter for Hire » Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:14 pm

SLAM! hahaha yeah thats like gladiator style
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Post by Red Panda » Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:39 pm

I saw a show on Discovery Canada that was all about these alternatives to meds.

The maggot therapy seems to have excellent results, I just dunno if I could take it. I'm assuming you can feel them squirming around in there. :?

Kyle, I think you should get started on that leech & maggot farm. Maybe under the kitchen sink or something. :D

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Post by kyle » Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:44 pm

Red Panda wrote:Kyle, I think you should get started on that leech & maggot farm. Maybe under the kitchen sink or something. :D
That's what I'll tell Michelle when she complains that I'm not doing the dishes or taking out the trash (when I'm not using the "It's a woman's job" excuse).

"I'm Sorry, honey. I can't. We that maggot/leech/cockroach farm for the PAW."

I just need to figure out a reason for needing cockroaches. Don't they absorb radiation like seaweed or something?
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Post by the lone swordsmen » Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:40 pm

kyle wrote:
Red Panda wrote:Kyle, I think you should get started on that leech & maggot farm. Maybe under the kitchen sink or something. :D
That's what I'll tell Michelle when she complains that I'm not doing the dishes or taking out the trash (when I'm not using the "It's a woman's job" excuse).

"I'm Sorry, honey. I can't. We that maggot/leech/cockroach farm for the PAW."

I just need to figure out a reason for needing cockroaches. Don't they absorb radiation like seaweed or something?

no roaches just Survive in a Nuclear PAW and Arrow smith
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Post by jamoni » Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:38 pm

Right. You are studying the roaches survival methods. BTW, there are species of maggots that eat living flesh as well as dead, so you can't just use any old maggot. You have to use the right kind.
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Post by ProZombieHunter » Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:26 pm

I believe the correct breed of maggots are the "Green Blowfly" variety of larvae.

Blackfly larvae and other fly will eat tissue that has not yet necrotized, thereby doing more harm than good.

I have read all about this stuff.
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Re: Natural medical tools: Maggots

Post by American » Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:50 pm

kyle wrote:Now that we've over used Antibiotics to the point of becoming almost immuse to it's effects we have to go back to the basics:

http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,128 ... _tophead_2
Wired.com wrote: hundreds of U.S. doctors have jumped on the low-tech maggot-therapy bandwagon, and the nation's leading producer of medical maggots has had to double production less than a year after the Food and Drug Administration approved the animals as bona fide medical devices. It seems that maggots, long neglected by medicine, have come back from the dead.
This is old news. They've been doing this for years

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Re: Natural medical tools: Maggots

Post by kyle » Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:34 pm

American wrote:
This is old news. They've been doing this for years
Yep. I think this became popular in the U.S. again around the 80's. The leech thing is slightly more recent.
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Post by SlingsVaqueros » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:44 pm

Creepy as it may be, I saw a TV program a few months ago on the Maggot Healing bit. It was on the same show that touted the medical benifits of drinking your own urin. I don't care how many doctors approve of the procedure, I will not have maggots eating my necrotic flesh while my heart still beats. It's too close to being a zombie.
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Post by SlingsVaqueros » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:47 pm

Jamoni wrote:Right. You are studying the roaches survival methods. BTW, there are species of maggots that eat living flesh as well as dead, so you can't just use any old maggot. You have to use the right kind.
I think roaches survive the radiation because their cells don't split constantly, like most other species. Roaches' cells split every seven days, or something like that, so the radiation does not have time to halt the cells, from doing, um, whatever.

I'm no radio-biologist, but that's what I heard.

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Post by Red Panda » Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:04 pm

SlingsVaqueros wrote:SCIENCE!
Shit dude, you almost blinded me with that. :?

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Post by the lone swordsmen » Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:28 pm

Red Panda wrote:
SlingsVaqueros wrote:SCIENCE!
Shit dude, you almost blinded me with that. :?

your lucky then becouse it blineded me :|
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Post by Methos » Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:20 pm

Well we've been using leeches for who knows how long, just not for the right reasons.

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Post by the lone swordsmen » Sat Oct 02, 2004 11:28 am

i do to i was stateing that fact that they will naver die
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Post by ghostface » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:00 pm

Update:

Maggot therapy trials to begin.
In a bid to prove the case for maggots conclusively, Dr Pauline Raynor of the University of York is recruiting 600 patients across Britain for the world's biggest ever maggot trial.

Her three-year study is being keenly watched by doctors and wound care specialists around the globe.

One third of patients -- selected at random -- will be treated with loose maggots, held in place by a dressing; one third with maggots contained in a gauze bag; and one third with hydrogel, a standard wound-cleaning therapy.
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Post by Kyle S.. » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:25 pm

ghostface wrote:Update:

Maggot therapy trials to begin.
In a bid to prove the case for maggots conclusively, Dr Pauline Raynor of the University of York is recruiting 600 patients across Britain for the world's biggest ever maggot trial.

Her three-year study is being keenly watched by doctors and wound care specialists around the globe.

One third of patients -- selected at random -- will be treated with loose maggots, held in place by a dressing; one third with maggots contained in a gauze bag; and one third with hydrogel, a standard wound-cleaning therapy.
That is pretty creepy, while they may prove the usefulness of maggots, you aren't going to find me using maggots, it is just really gross, and how would you grow a maggot farm anyway?
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Post by Tibus » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:47 pm

The whole maggot thing is becoming more popular since bacteria are becoming more resistant to anti-biotics. I once knew an old lady that said she used maggots all the time on the animals on the farm. People have been using them for hundreds of years. It supposedly works very well. Its more excating at removing dead or diseased flesh than any surgeon.
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Post by Nightside_Eclipse » Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:14 pm

That's just fucking sick. :evil:
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Post by ghostface » Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:57 pm

"Fucking sick" would be what you are when you get infected by superbugs created by an overdependence on antibiotics.
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Post by kyle » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:19 pm

Nightside_Eclipse wrote:That's just fucking sick. :evil:
Isn't a Flu shot somewhat similar to this?
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