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Re: Atlanta Walkout

Post by RoneKiln » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:48 pm

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Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:12 am
MPD Officers are taking a more interesting route of leaving. Seems some of them picked up something from the people they deal with.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/07/ ... from-ptsd/
I don't think I could be a cop for long without getting PTSD. I think it would be the domestic violence calls that would cumulatively traumatize me the most. I sometimes wonder how many incidents of overreaction we see police commit are rooted in trauma.
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Re: Atlanta Walkout

Post by raptor2 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:41 am

Getting approved for disability due to on the job mental issues is typically very hard. However, by filing for this it means that even people denied for this have rights under ADA to request "reasonable accommodations" for scheduling , medical treatment, etc. and opens the city to a huge issue if they take personnel actions against these officers.
“We have officers who have sustained physical injury as a result of being struck by concrete, by fire crackers, physically struck by these protesters,” said Meuser.

According to Meuser, the city has to approve the claims for disability, of which 90% are normally denied.

During the six months it takes to process the claims, most officers will be off the streets.

Approved disability payments come from PERA, the public employees pension fund. Meuser says 75 officers have already filed paperwork and are not working. Another 75 more are in the process of filing.

It is not an all or nothing proposition if an employee has a valid diagnosis of PTSD (which is not hard to obtain) even if not disabled enough to get approval of a medical disability ADA still covers this issue.

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Re: Atlanta Walkout

Post by tony d tiger » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:37 pm

RoneKiln wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:48 pm
Stercutus wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:12 am
MPD Officers are taking a more interesting route of leaving. Seems some of them picked up something from the people they deal with.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/07/ ... from-ptsd/
I don't think I could be a cop for long without getting PTSD. I think it would be the domestic violence calls that would cumulatively traumatize me the most. I sometimes wonder how many incidents of overreaction we see police commit are rooted in trauma.
Not just police. Irrational or "over the top" reactions to a triggering situation can be seen in EMS and fire personnel too; and in the current climate I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes almost as common as cases of PTSD in troops returning from deployment.
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Re: Atlanta Walkout

Post by aikorob » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:14 am

raptor2 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:29 pm
Stercutus wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:41 pm
This is because the DA has lost all confidence of the law enforcement community in the area. One week he went on TV and told the world that a TASER was deadly force and the officers were wrong for using it to enable an arrest. A couple of weeks later he reversed himself and said it was not deadly force when the police were being shot at with one without any clarification whatsoever.
I have learned over the years that many times when there is a situation that makes no sense(i.e. inconsistent statements), if you follow the money, more times than not an answer seems to appear.

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/gbi-open ... GNJcxMJ6O/

The other aspect involves politics and a simple Google search of Paul Howard will turn up many articles that cannot be discussed on this forum.
https://www.ajc.com/opinion/columnists/ ... Q73UUI2QM/
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Re: Atlanta Walkout

Post by MPMalloy » Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:22 am

aikorob wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:14 am
raptor2 wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:29 pm
Stercutus wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:41 pm
This is because the DA has lost all confidence of the law enforcement community in the area. One week he went on TV and told the world that a TASER was deadly force and the officers were wrong for using it to enable an arrest. A couple of weeks later he reversed himself and said it was not deadly force when the police were being shot at with one without any clarification whatsoever.
I have learned over the years that many times when there is a situation that makes no sense(i.e. inconsistent statements), if you follow the money, more times than not an answer seems to appear.

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/gbi-open ... GNJcxMJ6O/

The other aspect involves politics and a simple Google search of Paul Howard will turn up many articles that cannot be discussed on this forum.
https://www.ajc.com/opinion/columnists/ ... Q73UUI2QM/
politicians gonna politic
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