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Re: Pig Ebola virus Sends Shock Waves Through Global Food Chain

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Post by absinthe beginner » Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:15 am

Could soaring port prices trigger social unrest in China?

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Post by manacheck » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:54 pm

"Philippines confirms African swine fever, culls 7,000 pigs" Article dated September 9, 2019
https://www.porkbusiness.com/article/ph ... -7000-pigs


"Seven Asian Countries Battle ASF" Article dated August 28, 2019
https://www.porkbusiness.com/article/se ... battle-asf
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Post by Stercutus » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:31 am

The wife shocked me with news today that we are seeing second and third level effects from the Swine Fever. I looked it up and sure enough it was forecast back in May.


https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/05 ... 556646708/
EVANSVILLE, Ind., May 1 (UPI) -- Pharmaceutical researchers are beginning to recognize the grave threat the African swine fever epidemic in China poses to the global supply of a critically important pork-derived product -- the anticoagulant heparin.
The widely used drug, sometimes referred to as a blood thinner, is made from pig intestines, and nearly 80 percent of those pig intestines come from China.
Has now come about:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... od-thinner

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration, which tracks and officially declares product shortfalls, said that while there were shortages of some heparin products, there was sufficient overall supply.
“FDA has been monitoring this issue since last year and has followed up with heparin suppliers,” Nathan Arnold, a spokesman for the agency, said in an email Friday. “Although certain presentations of heparin have been in shortage, the overall supply continues to meet demand.”
So things are ok for now, but I wouldn't expect it in the future.
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Post by Stercutus » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:36 pm

It slipped in unnoticed but the Chinese have cancelled all tariffs on pork and soy. This is a "good faith" gesture for negotiating with the US over tariffs and has nothing to do with their population starving this winter.
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Post by EBuff75 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:23 pm

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Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:36 pm
It slipped in unnoticed but the Chinese have cancelled all tariffs on pork and soy. This is a "good faith" gesture for negotiating with the US over tariffs and has nothing to do with their population starving this winter.
When I saw the news about the tariffs being cancelled and the "reason" for it this week, I started laughing! I'm sure that it's not in any way related to what's been happening with their pork production... :roll:

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Post by absinthe beginner » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:31 pm

Pig Ebola Has Cost China Over $140 Billion As Locals Get Angry At Record High Pork Prices

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pig-e ... ork-prices

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Post by absinthe beginner » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:41 pm

African Swine Fever Devastates China's Pig Herd In September

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/afr ... -september

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Post by TacAir » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:18 pm

Smithfield Foods, now a completely China -owned ag producer is try to open another massive pig farm in Millard Co, Ut.

"Numerous examples abound of clashes between hog producers and residents in communities across the United States, friction caused by the emanation of foul odors and water pollution associated with industrial-sized pig farms.

Smithfield Foods, the largest pork producer in the world, already has a presence in this region, operating numerous facilities in Beaver County with an eye toward expanding into Millard County.

Steve Styler, a local attorney who represents the company in this region, was on hand at both public hearings in Delta, urging the public and elected officials to embrace the county’s agricultural heritage."
(http://millardccp.com/news/featured-loc ... -big-stink)

Locals are opposed - not just for the issues with smell (horrible BTW) but for the massive water use. Smithfield Foods faces a very uphill battle....
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Post by Stercutus » Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:29 pm

They should be opening more in the South. It is set up for agriculture.

Food prices should really surge in the next few weeks. Some more of the trade with China was hammered out so they are going to buy everything they can get their hands on.
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Post by absinthe beginner » Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:54 pm

China Pork Prices "Will Continue To Rise Sharply", Analysts

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china ... y-analysts

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Post by Stercutus » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:37 am

I have to wonder with a country with heavy censorship what do people think when they show up to the store and food suddenly costs three times as much? In the old Soviet Union the rumor mill would address this but people actually could find out what was going if they worked hard enough. Most be interesting living in a society where the government and the media lies to you about everything instead of just most things. At least they tend to find a story and stick with it.
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Post by absinthe beginner » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:44 am

China's pork crisis risks sending inflation to 4% by next year.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -next-year

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Post by absinthe beginner » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:22 pm

A terrible pandemic is killing pigs around the world, and U.S. pork producers fear they could be hit next

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... d-be-next/

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Post by absinthe beginner » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:26 am

Pig Plague Starts Rippling Through American Meat Markets

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pig-plag ... 03598.html

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Post by absinthe beginner » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:36 am

Mass pig slaughter stains South Korean river red

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/11/ ... 07794.html

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Post by absinthe beginner » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:40 am

China's Pork Hyperinflation Hits A Record 110%, Keeping Credit Growth In Check

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Post by absinthe beginner » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:00 pm

Chinese criminal gangs spreading African swine fever to force farmers to sell pigs cheaply so they can profit

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politic ... ever-force

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absinthe beginner wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:00 pm
Chinese criminal gangs spreading African swine fever to force farmers to sell pigs cheaply so they can profit

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politic ... ever-force
Not sure if anyone else had the very unsettling sensation of a bulls**t meter going off when reading this story.

I mean, it's a story that SEEMS plausible, and PARTS felt like a ring of truth... but multiple things felt off, not the least of which was any sort of proof for putting all this blame of continuing outbreaks solely on "gangs". It reads like it's fake news. It's unsettling when major things like food insecurity and dramatic unfolding health disasters have an uneasy, potent sense of lies and uncertainty.

No way to look at the origin base of any of the claims. No references to prove any of the claims. No "we're claiming this, and here's why, click for info." No "here's why we know this is true, instead of assuming this is why with rumor data and imagination." No "these are the gangs we're talking about, we will reference them by gang name, and here is how we got the monetary profit to be made from one sick pig carcass estimate."

That, and, the "oh, no, it's not really spreading like this out of control, only criminals are making it spread now, it's criminals who are making you pay more, focus your anger, they're making money!! Lots of money! And you're pigless!" sensation of anger deflection psychology.

Maybe it was the whole "10,000 pigs" seized by authorities "some infected, some not" part, or the "gangsters transported 4,000 pigs in one day!!" bit, where my bull meter started to claxon off. You can't put numbers like that out there and not expect to prove it. Makes one wonder exactly what's going on with the government's response to this junk. ...Though I guess if the situation is going to be what it's going to be, any distraction to keep people occupied and therefore encouraged to instill faith is granted merit.

Not providing references in my report papers like this would have failed me in college English. :crazy: With heavy amounts of "for shame" glances from my professor.

(Is it weird I find it more alarming with this kind of "news" than with an outright, "Okay, it's proven, 60% of pigs are now dead and 90% of the remaining are at risk, this means the likelihood of bacon in the US going from $4/lb to $9/lb this year is 14%, based on food controls, imports and exports being impacted in the following ways, and the response to global scarcity of a commodity considered in non-plague years to be easily replenished, inexpensive comparitively to these other commonly purchased meat sources, and plentiful, according to the following experts in such and so field that we will mention by name and title, so that if desired, you can look up to see whether you put faith in the idea they're selling here, and by extension, whether you decide to put faith in this article in general." That, right there, is what I'm talking about. Dry facts and opinion clearly outlined about which is which.)

If I'm gonna be fearmongered, I want to at least think I'm worried for a genuine reason. Otherwise, having an opinion and feelings is just too exhausting.
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Post by woodsghost » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:49 pm

manacheck wrote:
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If I'm gonna be fearmongered, I want to at least think I'm worried for a genuine reason. Otherwise, having an opinion and feelings is just too exhausting.
I'm right with you. The media have exhausted me. I'm done. Mostly. I read maybe 2 articles a day now. I'm working on decreasing even that. There is too much BS out there.
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Post by absinthe beginner » Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:43 pm

"Very Serious" - 30,000 Pigs Dead As Pig Ebola Spreads In Indonesia's North Sumatra

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/v ... th-sumatra

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Re: Pig Ebola virus Sends Shock Waves Through Global Food Chain

Post by RoneKiln » Wed Dec 25, 2019 9:18 am

woodsghost wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:49 pm
manacheck wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:40 am

If I'm gonna be fearmongered, I want to at least think I'm worried for a genuine reason. Otherwise, having an opinion and feelings is just too exhausting.
I'm right with you. The media have exhausted me. I'm done. Mostly. I read maybe 2 articles a day now. I'm working on decreasing even that. There is too much BS out there.
I've been concerned with the quality of writing in media for years now. Not just the fear mongering, but how it appears to be written for lazy 4th grade kids, and not productive adults. It's hard to find quality information. I've reduced the number of topics I allow myself to get invested in cause it takes time for me to go research a topic well enough to feel comfortable that I really have a basic understanding.

I also believe continually setting the bar so low on what gets published encourages people to lower their own standards.
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