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Post by Random » Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:18 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ow-it.html

I just stumbled upon this morning.......yet it comes from a tabloid, and I was wondering if any of you guys have a more reliable source to confirm it?
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Post by Stercutus » Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:27 am

I am not sure what your question is. Everything in the article is true.

How about a link to NASA?

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... uperstorm/
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Post by aikorob » Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:17 am

on a related note--this from Arstechnica:
http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/10/ ... -expected/
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Post by NamelessStain » Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:19 am

Daily Mail is not all bad tabloid junk. Just skim past all the jenner/kardashian crap and any story with "pins" in the title and there are some good articles. They do not filter most of the stuff American journalists seem to do.
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Post by JackBauer » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:23 am

Nasa's, been mentioned already
NOAA Spaceweather prediction page http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/ Some of the stuff is difficult to understand if you not a nifty geo or astro-physicist ;)

Spaceweather.com is a little more understandable and updated frequently http://www.spaceweather.com/
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Post by B&Q » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:18 am

NamelessStain wrote:Daily Mail is not all bad tabloid junk. Just skim past all the jenner/kardashian crap and any story with "pins" in the title and there are some good articles. I do not filter most of the stuff intelligent readers seem to do.
Fixed it for you.

Look through the reader comments at the Daily Wail and you will get a good idea of the IQ of the target readership. Try going up-market with Fox-News.

The most useful thing a Daily Mail quote does is identify idiots to put on your ignore list.

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Post by NamelessStain » Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:17 am

B&Q wrote:
NamelessStain wrote:Daily Mail is not all bad tabloid junk. Just skim past all the jenner/kardashian crap and any story with "pins" in the title and there are some good articles. I do not filter most of the stuff intelligent readers seem to do.
Fixed it for you.

Look through the reader comments at the Daily Wail and you will get a good idea of the IQ of the target readership. Try going up-market with Fox-News.

The most useful thing a Daily Mail quote does is identify idiots to put on your ignore list.
I'm just guessing you called me an idiot (against forum rules). So 50 posts in 4 years, who's puppet are you?

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Post by Doctorr Fabulous » Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:25 pm

The Daily Mail has a history of outright fraudulent reporting.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greens ... lymail-pcc

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Daily_Mail

HIV denial, climate-change denial, absolute fraudulent reporting, faking quotes, anti-vaccine nonsense, and so on.
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I just stumbled upon this morning.......yet it comes from a tabloid, and I was wondering if any of you guys have a more reliable source to confirm it?
As a rule, immediately assume everything in a Daily Mail article that's not a direct quote is false. Then go double check on the quotes. I'm not saying it's all lies, but generally if tabloids are carrying the story and nobody else is, that's a good sign it's not good journalism. Some good alternatives to the major networks and state-run media outlets are Al-Jazeera and Vice, depending on the subject matter. Be wary of RT, which is Russian state-backed propaganda.

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Post by Stercutus » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:21 pm

The Guardian is a self admitted leftist mouth piece. Not saying they don't have a point but they have problems too.
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Post by Assault Life » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:55 pm

"Climate change denial". Are you saying global warming/climate change is a real thing?
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Post by Stercutus » Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:07 pm

Assault Life wrote:"Climate change denial". Are you saying global warming/climate change is a real thing?
Yes and we have to take action before it it too late and become irreversible (again).

Here is the Daily Mail shilling for Climate Change denier Robert Redford:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hange.html

Clearly they are wrong (again)



Solar flares are still real though.
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Post by shrapnel » Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:13 pm

Please get back on topic. Thanks.
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Post by ineffableone » Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:47 pm

Random wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ow-it.html

I just stumbled upon this morning.......yet it comes from a tabloid, and I was wondering if any of you guys have a more reliable source to confirm it?
Solar flares are indeed a big issue, though the report claiming the US government is actually preparing I am a bit skeptical of. Maybe a little superficial stuff so they can "claim" they are prepared, or hardening of key continuity of government stuff, but I don't see the government actually spending the billions of $ it would take to actually really prepare the US infrastructure for such an event.
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Post by duodecima » Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:35 pm

I don't have a specific source to suggest, but I'd actually try to find a physicist/astrophysicist/astronomer (or a reliable science journalist) on twitter who's into solar flares and follow them.

The last tabloid "ZOMG this asteroid's going to hit earth!!!!" one of the astrophysicists I follow on twitter basically said "Guys, I promise, if one's ever going to hit us I promise I'll tell you!" (@ AstroKatie) I laughed pretty hard - but I also believe it.

Twitter's like every other source (Guardian, CNN, NYT, WSJ, WaPo, any TV network, Enquirer, all sorts of online news sites, random posters on ZS :crazy:) - you need to vet your sources, they all have pros & cons. Even if the pros heavily outweigh the cons, it's good to keep in mind what flaws/mistakes that particular source is going to be more prone to. Which is why I feel I need to have more than one source, and more than one kind of source, with biases/flaws in different areas. Triangulation make info more likely reliable.
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Post by offcamber » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:38 am

This was in the news just yesterday:

http://news.yahoo.com/sweden-solar-flar ... 26613.html

A flare impacted Sweden's radar systems and they had to temporarily shut down air travel.

Carrington scale flare event aside, I think a large enough flare could definitely wreak some havoc on our modern systems.

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Post by Mister Dark » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:41 am

http://www.sws.bom.gov.au/ Australian Bureau of Meteorology has a very up to date site.

For real-time alerts, you can sign up for email alerts for solar flares through them at http://listserver.ips.gov.au/mailman/li ... lare-alert Pretty cool stuff, but expect to get a lot of flare alerts from time to time, since the system sends emails for anything over C9.

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Post by Zimmy » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:35 pm

Corny name aside, try this website. Watch today's video.

http://www.suspicious0bservers.org
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Post by fred.greek » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:58 pm

The site I check for solar flare info is:

http://www.spaceweather.com/

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Post by Boosted98gsx » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:46 am

Zimmy wrote:Corny name aside, try this website. Watch today's video.

http://www.suspicious0bservers.org
Came to post this. This youtube channel is very good for spaceweather and predicting impacts it will have on our rock.
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Post by ineffableone » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:37 am

Boosted98gsx wrote:
Zimmy wrote:Corny name aside, try this website. Watch today's video.

http://www.suspicious0bservers.org
Came to post this. This youtube channel is very good for spaceweather and predicting impacts it will have on our rock.
You might want to vet S0 a bit. I wont go into it here, but they have been accused of some pretty shady stuff. I would just say be suspicious of them.
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