The problem is that statement right there is stating a political opinion.williaty wrote:You just highlighted the fundamental problem with even trying to stick to a "how is this going to affect me from a prepping standpoint" thread. The how, the why, and the what are no longer matters of "personal interpretation" or opinion. They're long-settled scientific fact. However, if you correctly state them as scientific fact, you'll get attacked (less so on this forum than others) for bringing up politics. The science isn't political. What nation states do about the reality is obviously political. What we as individuals do about the reality isn't political either.teotwaki wrote:You just stated something that would immediately derail the thread because it injects a personal interpretation that is a 'polar" opposite of those held by others and will devolve into non-factual debate.
The changing climate is going to be the single largest stability and security disruption those of us prepping now will face in our lifetimes (because it will be the driving force behind changing threat profiles) and yet we can't even talk about it because people call the science itself political because that lets them avoid it.
So, just to actually bring some prepping into this: Today, my place was as cold as 10F and has 6" of snow and ice. Two days from now, it's supposed to be 50F and raining (without a gradual warm-up in between). We're currently working to make sure that the water has a way to get though the ice and snow to get to the creek and not flood us out and we're also re-checking our power-outage preps because the ice falling off trees and things often knocks out power lines.
What are you guys doing about your weather?
For years we were supposed to see sudden drastic life altering changes in the weather, but it hasn't happened. Here is the problem....weather and global temps are always is in flux, and throughout history weather has changed dramatically. We have had ice ages with huge glaciers over most of North America, and warm weather with grass growing sub tropical creatures living at the poles. The Vikings flourished when the global weather got warm, and a few centuries later Viking settlements in Greenland died off when the got global cold again and Greenland iced over.
People panic when its unusually cold, unusually hot, or there is a major storm....however there has been worse throughout history. Yes it has snowed in July in the USA over 100 years ago, It was also in the 80's in January in New York about 80 years ago. It snows bad in buffalo on a regular basis
You think having brutal cold/ice/snow then shifting to milder weather is something new in the USA. Try looking at the first winter in the Plymouth Colony in 1620-21.
Moral of the story things get political when folks either say, "Human cannot change the climate, there is no such thing as climate change" to "The changing climate is going to be the single largest stability and security disruption those of us prepping now will face in our lifetimes". Both statements half truths, and more based on political rhetoric.
There is no unbiased evidence of a "Climate Change bogyman". Something so bad that we are all going to die within the next 50 years. However changing weather happens, whether its cold, heat, drought, flood, or storms. Its the basic "shit" that could hit the fan, and something we should prep for.
Prep for harsh winter storm if you live up north. Prep for a flood if you live on a flood plane. Prep for a hurricane if you live on the coast, or a tornado if you live in tornado alley.....There is no need to prep the ice age or waterworld.