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Post by Djinn » Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:26 am

I haven't noticed this topic thoroughly discussed anywhere..though I know it probably is...but i'm too sleepy to find it..lol. So...for my benefit, here it is. I know that many people feel that zombieism could only affect humans. However, I have to ask...Why? I feel that there are many reasons why it wouldn't affect other animals, for instance, I think that most or all birds and reptiles would be immune to any disease-based zombieism. However, I think that most mammals would be susceptible. Zombie dogs....zombies CATS O.O (oh hell no..-.-) ...zombie cows.... etc. Now...for the most part..these wouldn't be a problem..as these animals would most likely be faster than the zombies and wouldn't be stupid enough to be near them...but still. Do you think that animals could be infected? Why...or why not?
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Post by NecronomiconExMortis » Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:33 am

I do. Maybe it won't be the same, but I can see dogs, cats, and birds going insane from eating zombie bodies. Or maybe they'll know they shouldn't eat it, for the most part, but I'm sure there will be some stupid dogs that eat zombies. I could picture some terrible fate befalling them. And zombie dogs wouldn't be good at all. Smaller targets, four legs would make them faster, and the already incredible sense of smell would be increased by the zombie-ness. But the real question is; would they be able to give it to us?
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Post by raptorman » Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:33 am

Read "The Rising" by Brian Keene.

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Post by Ashnack » Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:13 pm

Very few bugs can even cross between animals. The dog would not cath the Zombieism just like he doesnt catch your cold.

As for spritual Zombies well animals dont have big enough souls maybe :)

Or maybe you would have to be selfaware to get it, so maybe a few other primates.

But that is just my theory.
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Post by will » Tue Jun 08, 2004 4:49 pm

they had zombie animals in "Pet Cemetary"
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Post by ProZombieHunter » Wed Jun 09, 2004 6:12 pm

Bring on the zombie dog-fights!

Those would be legal, right?
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Post by Raccoon City Survivor » Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:34 am

raptorman wrote:Read "The Rising" by Brian Keene.
That was a kick-ass book.

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Post by ShadowViper » Thu Jun 17, 2004 1:48 pm

I read The Rising in three days. Very inthralling, informative, and at times commical :lol: . The only thing I didn't like was the ending, it brought me to a point and then dropped me without concern, it angered me so much that i chunked the book out of my window and I sat in my chair trying to figure it out for myself. However, I would read a sequel if Mr. Keene ever decides to right it.
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Post by Ashnack » Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:54 pm

He is working on one. He posts sometimes over at www.allthingszombie.com It is a good place to hang out but there survival discussions aint quite as in depth as here.
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Post by nicklefish » Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:36 pm

Inter-species zombieism shouldn't be a concern from a biological standpoint. Even so, if humans are infectible (word?) then the closest thing to worry about would be a chimp. They only differ by two chromosomes (correct me if I'm wrong), which is why we are belived to have common ancestors. Even if you are no beliver in evolution, the fact remains that chimps and humans are closely related. Think 28 Days Later. Now wether or not the virus/bacteria/kool-aid could go between the two is beyond my knowledge. It could mutate from host to host, making it more likely to infect other species of a dissimilar genus, and may even go back as far as order in ability to transfer. Then again, it could be primate-based virus/bacteria/kool-aid only infecting, well, primates (just a variation from species to species). Then again, I could be wrong.
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Post by ProZombieHunter » Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:15 am

Chromosomes schmomosomes. (damn that's hard to say!)

Monkey, rhino, balooga whale, human being, squirrel -- Anything walkin' post mortem is catching a bullet to the skull.
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Post by will » Fri Jun 18, 2004 12:31 pm

i think angry zombie birds woud be a problem not to mention mosquitos!
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Post by badseed » Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:30 pm

i wonder if different zombie creatures would eat eachother. would zombie birds eat zombie mosquitoes? or would they all just want to eat the living?

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Post by ProZombieHunter » Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:38 pm

Good question.
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Post by Raccoon City Survivor » Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:19 pm

badseed wrote:i wonder if different zombie creatures would eat eachother. would zombie birds eat zombie mosquitoes? or would they all just want to eat the living?
I don't think Zombie birds can fly, because the rigor mortis.

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Post by badseed » Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:13 pm

do you think zombies would get rigor mortis?

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Post by Raccoon City Survivor » Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:18 pm

badseed wrote:do you think zombies would get rigor mortis?
That's what happens when you die, Zombies are dead, that's why Zombies are slow moving.

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Post by Ivan » Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:58 pm

Ok, lets clear something up about rigor mortis. Rigor mortis does not last indefinitly. Rigor mortis sets in anywhere from minutes to a few hours after death, and lasts aproximately 72 hours or so, depending on factors such as temperature.

So.. Those fast zombies in the new Dawn would slow down at some point, but perhaps be able to speed back up to a degree after a few days. Possibly.
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Post by Raccoon City Survivor » Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:33 pm

Ivan wrote:Ok, lets clear something up about rigor mortis. Rigor mortis does not last indefinitly. Rigor mortis sets in anywhere from minutes to a few hours after death, and lasts aproximately 72 hours or so, depending on factors such as temperature.

So.. Those fast zombies in the new Dawn would slow down at some point, but perhaps be able to speed back up to a degree after a few days. Possibly.
Wow, that shut me up, what about you Badseed?

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Post by badseed » Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:33 pm

yep. i bow before a greater intellect :D

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Post by NecronomiconExMortis » Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:47 pm

Muscle and tendon decay would indeffinately slow down a zombie, regardless of rigormortis. And if zombie-ness can make face eaters out of animals, too, I say we're doomed.
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Post by ProZombieHunter » Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:17 am

It won't matter if we're doomed, because we'd just get killed anyway, so why worry when you can prepare for any scale of outbreak you might be able to survive through?

I mean, don't worry about being doomed. Doomed is doomed. You can't survive. Period. Worry about taking care of the people you care about in less grand-scale outbreaks -- You'll know what to do in the case of a "Doomed" scenario.

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Post by Ivan » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:16 am

no problem, as far as clearing it up. I'm just a fount of useless knowledge.
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Post by the lone swordsmen » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:41 am

will wrote:they had zombie animals in "Pet Cemetary"
Well they where more of the spiritual type of zombies
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