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Well, not really... more like an apartment on top of a garage made of brick. Give me opinions, I'm considering renting it one day. Image


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Elevated location is always a good thing for zombie defense.

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It's like the Goodnight House from Tinderbox's Dead on Destitute Mountain!!!

Well.... Sorta....

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Haha. Fortification ideas? I know knocking out the steps, or removing/unscrewing them would be a good idea... but I'm concerned about the garage door or the door beside it, how could I fortify those? I would need to put my vehicle inside of the garage though to keep it safe from zombies/marauders. Here's a higher quality version: Image


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Needs an anti vehicle ditch on the perimeter to deter the real threat: other people

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Anti vehicle ditch? Do explain. :awesome:


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As for fortification ideas... boarding up the windows/doors? Bars on the windows maybe? Steel shutters? Traps? :twisted:


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You need two considerations when planning a defense: Humans, zombies.

For Humans, the key is not visible fortifications, because that advertises that you have stuff worth stealing. Use a blowtorch to imitate soot trails out of the windows to suggest an interior fire in the past. Strew small items near the doors to suggest looters have come and gone. Build barricades inside, out of view of onlookers. Appear to be a damaged, looted building.

As to zeds, cage-work is your best bet; solid barriers do not allow you to engage the eternally-patient enemy.

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Ah, good suggestions. Like a ninja. :o And cage-work? Like fences or walls? I don't know... if The Walking Dead taught people anything, its that walls and fences will be knocked or worn down eventually. Lol. I'd rather knock the steps or unscrew/remove them and keep the balcony and use a ladder to get up and down.


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Forget the garage door. It will go down too easy and is a massive security issue. Block off all lower floor entries permanently, and in a manner the zeds can't break through.

You can kill zeds from the balcony, so your stair plan is fine.

Reinforce the fence on the side and back of the house. If you have to run out one side because the other is being overrun you don't want zeds to be able to easily walk around the sides of the house.


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The garage door looks sturdy, but alright. How could I seal off the bottom level completely then? I could also kill zeds from the windows if I have a rifle or a crossbow, pick them off if they wander onto the street or around my base. How would you suggest reinforcing the fence though? And where will I put my vehicle to keep it safe from raiders or zeds? That's why I'd need the garage... but if the door doesn't hold up, then that is an issue. I could board up the garage door from the inside and take the boards down if I had to escape... but I thought of cutting a square hole (if possible) from the living room floor of the apartment down into the garage, so that way I could have access to the garage from the inside but I could fortify the garage door by boarding up from the inside and staying holed up as long as possible. Any other ideas? Zombie traps, building more fence around the apartment?


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Okay... I'm considering RENTING it one day. Is that better? :D


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Ah, good suggestions. Like a ninja. :o And cage-work? Like fences or walls? I don't know... if The Walking Dead taught people anything, its that walls and fences will be knocked or worn down eventually. Lol. I'd rather knock the steps or unscrew/remove them and keep the balcony and use a ladder to get up and down.


I'm thinking grill work of strap-iron bolted to the building frame.

That way you can skewer the zeds just as they did through the fence in WD.

Fences go back to attracting human troubles. Unless you have a group, you can only defend one side of the building at a time. Hidden is best.

The best traps for zeds are knee-breakers: basically a hole just wide enough to admit a foot about 2' deep. It can terribly harm a leg. You'll need some sort of mark t avoid them yourself, but a lame zed will not be able to bring upper body leverage to bear to attack the fabric of your defense, and will be greatly slowed.

Plus its free.

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Ah, good suggestions. Like a ninja. :o And cage-work? Like fences or walls? I don't know... if The Walking Dead taught people anything, its that walls and fences will be knocked or worn down eventually. Lol. I'd rather knock the steps or unscrew/remove them and keep the balcony and use a ladder to get up and down.


I'm thinking grill work of strap-iron bolted to the building frame.

That way you can skewer the zeds just as they did through the fence in WD.

Fences go back to attracting human troubles. Unless you have a group, you can only defend one side of the building at a time. Hidden is best.

The best traps for zeds are knee-breakers: basically a hole just wide enough to admit a foot about 2' deep. It can terribly harm a leg. You'll need some sort of mark t avoid them yourself, but a lame zed will not be able to bring upper body leverage to bear to attack the fabric of your defense, and will be greatly slowed.

Plus its free.

Yes, great ideas, but I don't trust fences, if enough zeds/zombies/walkers whatever you want to call them collect, its all over, might as well let the fence fall. Skewers are a decent idea. I need more zombie trap ideas though, and reinforcement ideas. I hope my apartment will be the 'hub' for survival in my town, law enforcement and others could collect there and we could set up a perimeter and clear out as much of the town as possible of zeds. Just some ideas... I need more, please? :ooh:


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Make sure all these modifications are permissible in your lease agreement/contract.

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Yeah, for sure. And I believe there's a shed in the back I can use, I could store extra goods in there maybe, and put a lock on it. Good idea? :D


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Ah, good suggestions. Like a ninja. :o And cage-work? Like fences or walls? I don't know... if The Walking Dead taught people anything, its that walls and fences will be knocked or worn down eventually. Lol. I'd rather knock the steps or unscrew/remove them and keep the balcony and use a ladder to get up and down.


I'm thinking grill work of strap-iron bolted to the building frame.

That way you can skewer the zeds just as they did through the fence in WD.

Fences go back to attracting human troubles. Unless you have a group, you can only defend one side of the building at a time. Hidden is best.

The best traps for zeds are knee-breakers: basically a hole just wide enough to admit a foot about 2' deep. It can terribly harm a leg. You'll need some sort of mark t avoid them yourself, but a lame zed will not be able to bring upper body leverage to bear to attack the fabric of your defense, and will be greatly slowed.

Plus its free.

Yes, great ideas, but I don't trust fences, if enough zeds/zombies/walkers whatever you want to call them collect, its all over, might as well let the fence fall. Skewers are a decent idea. I need more booby trap ideas though, and reinforcement ideas. I hope my apartment will be the 'hub' for survival in my town, law enforcement and others could collect there and we could set up a perimeter and clear out as much of the town as possible of zeds. Just some ideas... I need more, please? :ooh:


What you need, then, is some first-rate periodicals on the subject.

A well-written zombie novel or two should do the trick....

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TheZone wrote:
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Ah, good suggestions. Like a ninja. :o And cage-work? Like fences or walls? I don't know... if The Walking Dead taught people anything, its that walls and fences will be knocked or worn down eventually. Lol. I'd rather knock the steps or unscrew/remove them and keep the balcony and use a ladder to get up and down.


I'm thinking grill work of strap-iron bolted to the building frame.

That way you can skewer the zeds just as they did through the fence in WD.

Fences go back to attracting human troubles. Unless you have a group, you can only defend one side of the building at a time. Hidden is best.

The best traps for zeds are knee-breakers: basically a hole just wide enough to admit a foot about 2' deep. It can terribly harm a leg. You'll need some sort of mark t avoid them yourself, but a lame zed will not be able to bring upper body leverage to bear to attack the fabric of your defense, and will be greatly slowed.

Plus its free.

Yes, great ideas, but I don't trust fences, if enough zeds/zombies/walkers whatever you want to call them collect, its all over, might as well let the fence fall. Skewers are a decent idea. I need more booby trap ideas though, and reinforcement ideas. I hope my apartment will be the 'hub' for survival in my town, law enforcement and others could collect there and we could set up a perimeter and clear out as much of the town as possible of zeds. Just some ideas... I need more, please? :ooh:


What you need, then, is some first-rate periodicals on the subject.

A well-written zombie novel or two should do the trick....

Such as this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev46pQi-GlE


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Make sure what you plan on, whether fantasy or reality or otherwise, is within the scope of the law. Booby traps are not. Swing over to the forum rules to better understand what I'm nagging about.

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Unless I am missing something that Chevy will not fit through the door.

I didn't move your thread one of the mods did.

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Make sure what you plan on, whether fantasy or reality or otherwise, is within the scope of the law. Booby traps are not. Swing over to the forum rules to better understand what I'm nagging about.

Haha, okay... let me tell you what I mean by 'zombie traps'. It's basically a few... a wood chipper under the balcony, so any wandering zed would come and inspect it and be sucked into the chipper and be minced. Economical. :awesome: The other one would be a treadmill behind the apartment door, so any zeds that MIGHT get in (I'd have the steps knocked out/unscrewed/removed depending on SHTF situation) and just let them all tumble back. :lol: And what TheZone recommended, two foot deep holes to break their knees and incapacitate their legs so they can't move as quickly. And maybe some punji stick traps, given enough time? Not necessarily for zeds, but raiders/marauders. And this is AFTER the zombie apocalypse starts, not before when the law matters. Just brainstorming. :mrgreen:


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Unless I am missing something that Chevy will not fit through the door.

I didn't move your thread one of the mods did.

Oh okay, well the Chevy isn't mine. If I got a vehicle, it would be the Scion IQ, a sub-compact car. Maybe that would fit? :clap:


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