raptor2 wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:56 pm
The revisions are coming from the state level. The errors, manipulations or whatever are generated by the locals for what ever purpose.
The bad record keeping begins at the state level.
I can't argue yes or no whether errors, manipulations, or whatever are generated by locals.
However, I can and do absolutely argue what I'm hearing you imply: that the states aren't also
manipulating data (and the transparency with which it's publicly reported.)
Maybe the revisions are all being done in good faith, and maybe everyone at the state level is doing their job perfectly and all errors are corrected on the state level, and no additional errors, manipulations, or whatever, are intentionally added at the state level or the above levels... but I don't think that's possible.
It's a multi-level approach to reporting the data and on every level is the opportunity to skew information and report it in such a way that is "most beneficial" to that level as well as to the levels above it. Think about when the president's administration changed the software they required hospitals to use to provide the data. There was no time to train anyone in it. People at the local level likely did the best they could to satisfy the new regulation. To blame that only on one level, the local level, is ignoring every other level's fingers in the local level's jobs.
Then you hear about hospitals reporting information that gets counted twice, or not at all. The bad record keeping can't be blamed only on the state level or only on the local level. And even when the media gets ahold of the data being reported, it's shown in confusing graphs with "rolling averages" and no mentions of when the numbers being reported for that day are actually appliable to.
If Joe Schmo gets a test on Tuesday and it' comes back as positive on Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday, and included in Friday or Saturday's numbers, maybe it shows up on Monday if Saturday and Sunday get rolled together in how they're reported. But the numbers and graphs don't indicate when the tests were taken. Maybe they're from tests taken that day. Maybe they're from tests taken a week ago. It's not being reported in media with transparency, and some of that is because of every level along the way, but all of it is guided by the security guidelines about "not wanting to report too specifically" for the sake of withholding intelligence from the country's enemies.
What it boils down to is not really having a good sense of what's going on. Remembering how early on the specifics were much more transparent. Remembering when that all started to change and the reasons given as to why being for national security. So I mean, okay, but it's still not okay to say that that decisions to no have clear information is the fault of the local level. Local level has the most to lose not knowing the actual data about their own local area's situation. It's kind of like blaming the victim using excuses like "but they'll get more money if they lie"... even if that's true, isn't that because someone on another level said, "hey, I know how to skew results, let's reward the local area if they do this and punish them if they don't."
Every relationship is give or take, but the gives and takes aren't usually equal.