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I've received a couple requests to demo this incredibly simple piece of survival gear, but a piece of gear that could save your life in an emergency situation. Don't forget to use good ventilation!

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Excellent! Thanks for sharing.

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Dammit! Now I have to go buy some paraffin and make my own. :mrgreen:

That is truly outstanding. Just one question: Where'd you get that lighter?

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My sister gave it to me as a joke birthday present!

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Great stuff, thanks! Seems like a nice diy project for the upcoming holiday :D .


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That's a great little survival stove, thanks for posting the video!


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Remember to ensure that the corragated cardboard is rolled VERY TIGHT! If it isn't, you'll lose BTU's and burn time!

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kbilly84 wrote:
Dammit! Now I have to go buy some paraffin and make my own. :mrgreen:

I recycle candle stubs. Old tin+cardboard+scrap candle wax= zero expense, Result!!
My best one so far is a sweet tin that has a lid (because they're really hard to blow out when they're running well) that fits inside my hobo

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That is truly outstanding. Just one question: Where'd you get that lighter?

I've seen them in camping shops and ironmongers

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Dammit! Now I have to go buy some paraffin and make my own. :mrgreen:

I recycle candle stubs. Old tin+cardboard+scrap candle wax= zero expense, Result!!
My best one so far is a sweet tin that has a lid (because they're really hard to blow out when they're running well) that fits inside my hobo

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That is truly outstanding. Just one question: Where'd you get that lighter?

I've seen them in camping shops and ironmongers


That's a good point Forge! These things (especially the one with the holes) are VERY difficult to blow out. Keep the top of the can to smother the flame or improvise another method.

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A few other things.
I dropped one into a bucket of water while it was burning, it was a pig to relight but it did. The wax waterproofs it but when the wax is liquid (when its burning) then a lot of water can wash some of the wax away and saturate the 'wick' (the charred part of the cardboard). Shake the water off and give it a scrape with your knife... Sorted

I like to light mine by striking a match, waiting until at least half of it is on fire and laying it on top of the 'wick'. That way you avoid singed fingers or having to hold your lighter upside down.

If you are trying to use a normal bic then hold the stove upside down (but at an angle) over the flame

Don't store them anywhere hot unless you're sure they'll stay upright, the boot of a car in high summer might be able to get hot enough for the wax to run. Paraffin wax melts at 55 to 71 degrees C* (131 to 160 F) and pure beeswax at 62 C* (143 F) and becomes slushy at a lower temperature then that


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i desiged this stove to fit in a mexpedition rollypoly ( dump pouch ). the burner is a "buddy burner" and the pot is a keg can. the wind screen is made from a tomatoe can and has been cut down since the diameter of the can was too large to fit in the pouch. the pot sits in the wind screen and is supported by 2 stakes made from wire clothes hanger. this stove will boil 2 cups of water in around 7min. the pot stores inside the windscreen to make a compact setup.

i agree with ODA 226 in that these little stoves burn hot. they also burn for a long time. they are bright, and as the OP demonstrated they wil work while wet. the couple of things i dont care for is how much they smoke. they also get heavy.

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the pot actually holds items as part of a survival kit. there are other items that were part of this overall kit not shown in these photos.

- small multitool
- pencil
- pot supports for the stove
- hack saw blade
- ferro rod
- 6 large cotton balls
- 25ft of mechanics wire
- 2ft of tin foil
- trigger for the mouse trap
- pot handle

there are 4 plastic bags that contain other items...from left to right.

bag 1

- 2 razor blades wrapped in tin foil
- 1 p-38
- several safty pins
- 1 set of extra batteries for the headlamp
- small file
- 1 cone shapped coffee filter
- 1/2 of a piece of note book paper

bag 2

- fishing kit...there are too many items to list, but it has hooks, shot sinkers, spider wire, several hooks, and some jigs and plastic baits.

bag 3

- extra set of rechargable batteries for the flash light ( i taped the ends so the batteries cant short out against other items from the kit )
- 1 small tube of super glue
- 1 small spool of thread
- 1 needle ( i covered the tips of the needle with the ends of q-tips to protect other items in the kit. )

bag 4

- home made beanie cap ( i made it from space blanket )
- home made gloves ( i made these from space blanket also )

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i will leave you with some shots of the stove in action......i took 2 buddy burners with me today. one stays in the kit and is unused, and the other is the one i used for testing, and for these photos.

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ODA 226 wrote:
Remember to ensure that the corragated cardboard is rolled VERY TIGHT! If it isn't, you'll lose BTU's and burn time!


i set mine up a little different. the carboard is tight, but three rolls allow for more wax/fuel in the can. mine uses a tuna fish can.

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That's a good point Forge! These things (especially the one with the holes) are VERY difficult to blow out. Keep the top of the can to smother the flame or improvise another method.


very true. when mine is up and running you cant blow it out. i simply will put a palm frond over it to smother.


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My internet is being stupid today, so I can't watch the video...

Maybe you answered this in the video, but if not, how much water do you think you could boil with one of these? Obviously, this will vary based on size, but if you were to take yours, boil a liter of water, put it out, let it cool and repeat, how many cycles do you think it could stand?


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thanks! 8-)


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Not trying to thread jack, but I made a hobo stove out of a Dollar General 8qt stainless pot and used an old refrigerator shelf for the grill top.


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ODA 226 wrote:
Remember to ensure that the corragated cardboard is rolled VERY TIGHT! If it isn't, you'll lose BTU's and burn time!


i set mine up a little different. the carboard is tight, but three rolls allow for more wax/fuel in the can. mine uses a tuna fish can.


I managed to get an entire block of parafin plus some in my stove. The cardboard kept soaking it up. Maybe I was able to get so much parafin in because my cardboard is about 4 inches tall?

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My internet is being stupid today, so I can't watch the video...

Maybe you answered this in the video, but if not, how much water do you think you could boil with one of these? Obviously, this will vary based on size, but if you were to take yours, boil a liter of water, put it out, let it cool and repeat, how many cycles do you think it could stand?


A shitload. Really. A shitload.

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ODA 226 wrote:
Confucius wrote:
My internet is being stupid today, so I can't watch the video...

Maybe you answered this in the video, but if not, how much water do you think you could boil with one of these? Obviously, this will vary based on size, but if you were to take yours, boil a liter of water, put it out, let it cool and repeat, how many cycles do you think it could stand?


A shitload. Really. A shitload.


I might have to try this then, nice thing is I'm pretty sure you could ship these in resupplies (for hiking) without having to go through the hazardous materials mess you would have to for most other stove fuels...


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ODA 226 wrote:
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Remember to ensure that the corragated cardboard is rolled VERY TIGHT! If it isn't, you'll lose BTU's and burn time!


i set mine up a little different. the carboard is tight, but three rolls allow for more wax/fuel in the can. mine uses a tuna fish can.


I managed to get an entire block of parafin plus some in my stove. The cardboard kept soaking it up. Maybe I was able to get so much parafin in because my cardboard is about 4 inches tall?


ive seen the blocks of parafin before, and they are a lot for one candle. i dont know how much mine used but i had a slab of parafin. it was about .75" x 5" x 9" . i melted mine down in a foil loaf pan. i also made a bunch of 111t's waxy balls, and stll have a shit ton in that loaf pan.


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Alright, reading this just secured a place in my future trunk kit for one of these. 8-)

Also, awesome!

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Great thread . :D

Got some time off coming up and have been looking for no/low cost projects .

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Dogan wrote:
Alright, reading this just secured a place in my future trunk kit for one of these. 8-)

Also, awesome!


only problem is that it may melt in your trunk in summer.


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wow very nice,

what if... you replace the cardbord for a wick found in oillamps? will it burn longer, hotter, and cleaner?

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