Ultimate ZS Battle/Scout Belt Thread

[Dawgboy]

Everyone has their style, right? I wanted a belt setup, in a Sam Browne style with an ancient Celtic style for fun things I do with some "re-enactment groups". So this belt is an old style with some new features... The bag has placements to hide my electronics, but also hold my BP tools as well. There is a second bag thingee still being created that will hold a powder horn and grease, and other dirty shooting things. The Rat 6 hangs from this well too as well as my Dirk(diggler). There are other hangers for a drop leg, but I am building a holster set for my two 50 cal pistols to go directly under the Sam Brown strap, which is adjustable to either side of the belt.

The deer hide is one I shot while living on Palomar mountain, The rest is raw leather that My friend hand carved and colored. She does great work. Extreme attention to detail. I supplied all the interior things for her to map out and she wetformed over my Scott's elixir bottle(for Whiskey!) and the Nalgene canteen.

You can find her here, if you want to commission her: http://www.facebook.com/FeraL-Clothing- ... 652/photos












Room in this back pouch for an XD40 in a paddle holster, just need velcro.











Bottle is over 100 years old, I dug it out of a tailing pile at a gold mine in the Central Sierras.

[teotwaki]

Pretty amazing work. You could patent the pattern and call it Multi-Celt. Thanks for posting so many pictures.

[ManInBlack316]

Pretty amazing work. You could patent the pattern and call it Multi-Celt. Thanks for posting so many pictures.

Multi-Celt for the win. Also, now all I can picture is Dawgboy running around in the ZPAW with this belt and a few other archaic weapons.

[Dogan]

Pretty amazing work. You could patent the pattern and call it Multi-Celt. Thanks for posting so many pictures.

Multi-Celt for the win. Also, now all I can picture is Dawgboy running around in the ZPAW with this belt and a few other archaic weapons.

Coming over a dew covered rise, the morning sun behind him, majestically surrounded by a vicious pack of Dachshunds. Perhaps their motto could be "Death from the ankles down!"

Really awesome leather work.

[DoctorCandelario]

So I noticed that a bunch of guys are just running standard belts and not MOLLE for their battle/scout belt. Anyone have any issues with lack of padding or stuff moving around too much on the belt? Thinking of switching to a standard belt with BFG pouches to trim it down and maybe cut down on heat build up (FL here).

Edit: Have a trauma class coming up soon and was considering just going with a light battle belt instead of my chest rig so I can focus more on learning med skills and less on getting around gear.

Since I can import some gear but not all, I have to work with what I have and improvise. I use a standard, cheap labored local army web belt along some MOLLE stuff that i've been able to pick along the way or get inside my country.

MOLLE gear slides all around the place (belt) if not secured somehow. So, I had a bunch of un-used ALICE clips laying around, so I took them and use them as belt keepers. Problem solved.

This is my current shotgun rig. I found out that carrying loose shells was faster that donning a chest rig with pouches.

My setup:

- Cheap local army belt
- Cheap pistol mag pouch (althought its well made)
- Condor dump pouch/bag
- Condor flashlight holder
- Condor IFAK pouch
- Leather Browning HI-power holster
- God-knows-what brand MOLLE pistol mag pouch (used for a small multitool/blade)

[ManInBlack316]

Thanks Doc,

I put together a simple belt with a paddle holster (all I had) and BFG belt pouches; so I have a pistol, one AR mag, two pistol mags, and my EDC knife horizontally on my pants belt. I'll post a picture when I take one. I put it on and walked around the house and liked the feel of it, feels a lot more slimmed down and should help with heat build up, but the pouches slide around like you said; thinking about getting some velcro and putting it on the belt where the pouches go so they don't slide.
Will be wearing this all day in my trauma med class and with a chest rig during hands on scenarios so I'll have a better formed opinion then.

[flybynight]

So I noticed that a bunch of guys are just running standard belts and not MOLLE for their battle/scout belt. Anyone have any issues with lack of padding or stuff moving around too much on the belt? Thinking of switching to a standard belt with BFG pouches to trim it down and maybe cut down on heat build up (FL here).

Edit: Have a trauma class coming up soon and was considering just going with a light battle belt instead of my chest rig so I can focus more on learning med skills and less on getting around gear.

Since I can import some gear but not all, I have to work with what I have and improvise. I use a standard, cheap labored local army web belt along some MOLLE stuff that i've been able to pick along the way or get inside my country.

MOLLE gear slides all around the place (belt) if not secured somehow. So, I had a bunch of un-used ALICE clips laying around, so I took them and use them as belt keepers. Problem solved.

This is my current shotgun rig. I found out that carrying loose shells was faster that donning a chest rig with pouches.

My setup:

- Cheap local army belt
- Cheap pistol mag pouch (althought its well made)
- Condor dump pouch/bag
- Condor flashlight holder
- Condor IFAK pouch
- Leather Browning HI-power holster
- God-knows-what brand MOLLE pistol mag pouch (used for a small multitool/blade)

Very similar to my belt ( even down to the God-knows- what pistol mag pouch for Gerber multi tool. Just more rifle pouches ,less pistol (1), a sheath knife and kydex holster

[ashwednesday]

G-Code OSH for Glock 19 on Ares Armor Micro Belt.

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Is that a Dragon rollup backpack?

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It's a generic pouch

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[ManInBlack316]

Anyone know if the Safariland 7TS Concealment holsters work with the UBL Mid-ride attachment?
https://holsterops.com/collections/conc ... -7378-7379
https://holsterops.com/collections/hols ... 4894500551
Wanting to get my gun belt more squared away, currently run a chest rig with plans to add armor later, so I was looking into the UBL Mid-ride. My Shield is the only pistol I have, so it's what I'll run on my gun belt.
Also, does mounting a knife behind a dropped pistol work well on a gun belt? Looking to put my BK14 on my belt as well and that would seem to be a good place to run it due to space considerations with trying to keep the belt balanced and slim.

[ashwednesday]

Anyone know if the Safariland 7TS Concealment holsters work with the UBL Mid-ride attachment?
https://holsterops.com/collections/conc ... -7378-7379
https://holsterops.com/collections/hols ... 4894500551
Wanting to get my gun belt more squared away, currently run a chest rig with plans to add armor later, so I was looking into the UBL Mid-ride. My Shield is the only pistol I have, so it's what I'll run on my gun belt.
Also, does mounting a knife behind a dropped pistol work well on a gun belt? Looking to put my BK14 on my belt as well and that would seem to be a good place to run it due to space considerations with trying to keep the belt balanced and slim.

One thing about Safariland, they picked a bolt pattern and stuck with it. I'm 99% sure it will fit. I actually picked up a Safarilaminate coyote ALS holster for the Shield and mounted it on an MLS15 fork so I can swap it in onto my war belt if I want to. My pouches are ALS universal pistol pouches so I can generally swap in whatever pistol and magazines.

Once you get a full sized pistol you can keep using that holster for concealed carry on that paddle, so long as you don't mind concealing with that level of retention.

What belt? What does the rest of your setup look like? Depending on what you want I would also recommend to take a look at the UBL High.

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[ManInBlack316]

Anyone know if the Safariland 7TS Concealment holsters work with the UBL Mid-ride attachment?
https://holsterops.com/collections/conc ... -7378-7379
https://holsterops.com/collections/hols ... 4894500551
Wanting to get my gun belt more squared away, currently run a chest rig with plans to add armor later, so I was looking into the UBL Mid-ride. My Shield is the only pistol I have, so it's what I'll run on my gun belt.
Also, does mounting a knife behind a dropped pistol work well on a gun belt? Looking to put my BK14 on my belt as well and that would seem to be a good place to run it due to space considerations with trying to keep the belt balanced and slim.

One thing about Safariland, they picked a bolt pattern and stuck with it. I'm 99% sure it will fit. I actually picked up a Safarilaminate coyote ALS holster for the Shield and mounted it on an MLS15 fork so I can swap it in onto my war belt if I want to. My pouches are ALS universal pistol pouches so I can generally swap in whatever pistol and magazines.

Once you get a full sized pistol you can keep using that holster for concealed carry on that paddle, so long as you don't mind concealing with that level of retention.

What belt? What does the rest of your setup look like? Depending on what you want I would also recommend to take a look at the UBL High.

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Belt is just a two inch duty belt style setup, currently running BFG belt pouches for rifle and pistol mags. Phone is screwing up and won't let me take new photos. Plan is to run one rifle SET Burro and two pistol SET Burro on my support side, TQ, holster and BK14 on strong side.

[brothaman]

Rez'ed, 'cuz this was a good thread.

[flybynight]

Rez'ed, 'cuz this was a good thread.

wish all the pics still worked

[brothaman]

Yea. Me, too. I'm getting an extra belt from a friend and it reminded me of this thread. I wanted to do a scoutish/hunting belt thing. Maybe ditch the backpack for deer season. This is good inspiration.

[moab]

Photobucket really ruined forums. Winning combination? Imgur plus the Imgur extension for Chrome. So you can still load an internet image directly into your imgur without having to download it first. Then just copy and paste the url into your post. Hopefully imgur will stick around. They've been around forever. But I don't know how it's run or it's likelihood of staying alive long term.

This is a great thread. Are the larger belts meant to run under a pack? I'm from the days of ALICE so forgive me. We used the harness and belt under the Alice pack. But if you remember the Alice rides way high on your back. At least on mine. So the belt worked. But in more modern packs I can get them to ride on my hips. Which is a lot more comfortable. Just wondering what you would do with those large belts? In a bug out situation? Dismounted from a vehicle? Just going on a patrol? Does it ride in your pack the rest of the time?

My current set up is a not full 60l pack. A USGI fannypack to the front. An HPG chest rig with spare rifle mags etc. on my chest. And a gun belt with a knife sheath and holster for my glock towards the front sides. I'm just not sure a full size battle belt would fit. Unless I only ran it dismounted from my BOV.

[brothaman]

I always thought the larger belts are meant to run with a small pack unattached. I've seen setups on the webz with small chest rig, small pack and a wider "war belt" kind of thing. I like that idea. But, I think you could get a belt setup to meet whatever you need it. Keeping things separate, I was thinking of the UW Swamp Fox split chest rig, I narrow type belt, and a day pack sized (25L??) backpack. Easy on, easy off. I could drop the pack and/or the chest rig and still keep the belt on,.. if I had to drop trou on the go I wouldn't have to futz around with more than my belt. I think it would give you options to drop the pack for in and out of a vehicle and and also run a higher holster to remain comfy while riding and driving. For my purposes I don't think the wide belt will work. With a normal width belt, I could add or remove the pack and the chest rig as needed. See, Brothaman gotta move and be free.

I'm personally looking to try and ditch the pack and let the belt be the core of the setup for a single day outing. I'm focused on hunting,.. with is like Patrol I guess. On days when I can really scoot and shoot all day, I might cover 600+ acres or occasionally 1000 (depending on the AO). Most days I'm in a blind or stand. I'm starting with an HSGI cobra belt with a micro grip panel ( https://www.highspeedgear.com/hsgi/micro-grip-95MG.html )but, this thing would have cover my needs very well ( https://www.highspeedgear.com/hsgi/31OV-31OV.htmll ). My current set up is strictly for bump in the night stuff. It's carrying a Holster, gun with weapon light, extra mags, and a flash light all sized to be worn in me skivvies. I was thinking I need to fit a water bottle, my phone and bit of food, a flattened quarter roll of TP, a roll up dump pouch, small fixed blade knife, flash light, deer call, a double Taco, and my tags and hunting license. Likely, I'd only have the one rifle mag in the rifle but I'd like to keep a mag pouch accessible in case I run into DNR or hitch a ride from a friend on the walk back. Just for safety and other folks piece of mind. Even for an honest patrol (i'm just a hick and have no idea how a real patrol should run) I'm thinking the a mag in the rifle and one on the hip should suffice. And,. I was thinking that if I wasn't getting enough on the belt for a single day of hunting, I have a Hill People Kit Bag that would help me keep it light and carry a little more.

[Zed Hunter]

Dont fall into deep water. You'll never surface.

[brothaman]

Dont fall into deep water. You'll never surface.

I gotcha on that. It didn't take me long to make an expensive list. I might just get a few things per month.
I'm working through enough money pits right now. I really don't need another.

[flybynight]

The amount of knowledge photobucket destroyed is staggering.

[Dabster]

Anyone care to compare and contrast the SafariLand UBL Mid-ride attachment and the Bladetech DOH? I think the chief difference is that the DOH angles the pistol out. Is this a great, unimportant, bad or terrible idea for a battlebelt? If it matters it is for a Glock (No safety).

[flybynight]

While perusing Amazon looking for something else . I happened upon this

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GDTSCQK/re ... s9dHJ1ZQ==

Anyone ever used a tool belt for weapon/equipment bearing?

[woodsghost]

While perusing Amazon looking for something else . I happened upon this

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GDTSCQK/re ... s9dHJ1ZQ==

Anyone ever used a tool belt for weapon/equipment bearing?

I have not seen a tool belt used, but I have seen multiple examples of tool belt suspenders being used on various "official" tactical/pistol/patrol belts. The advantage I see is the lack of padding leaves the straps flat under a backpacks straps. I don't care for padded Y/H suspenders or padded chest rig straps under padded backpack straps. YMMV.

[Rednex]

I kinda do, I use a similar belt I got from Lowe's for work. My tool pouchs are a condor molle drop leg rig with a kagaroo double m4 pouch with m9 pouchs and a hammer holder on the other side. I wear it for 10 plus hours a day , the only grip is that the belt in not as finely adjustable like many of the " combat / battle belts ". It hold the pouchs well they don't slide or move. So if you load it up and the buckle holes don't fit perfectly it may say on a person's hips.