Kifaru E&E setup and loadout

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Kifaru E&E setup and loadout

Post by HBAR » Thu May 20, 2010 5:13 pm

I posted this over on the Kifaru and Get Off the X forums and got some really good input. Some changes were made since these photos were taken so some of the gear doesn't match.
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20# with water
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14# with Level One gear removed. The raingear, lightsticks and belt pouch take up about two-thirds of the interior.
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STASHAWAY RAINGEAR PARKA
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STASHAWAY RAINGEAR TROUSERS
GERBER BMF KNIFE
CYALUME LIGHTSTICKS
1 – RED
1 – BLUE
1 – GREEN
3 – INFRARED
MAPS OF AO
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SIDE KICK BELT POUCH
SWISS ARMY KNIFE – EXPLORER MODEL SILVA RANGER COMPASS - MODEL 515 (on paracord lanyard)
COMBAT APPLICATION TOURNIQUET
TRAU-MEDIC FIELD DRESSING
BRITISH LIFEBOAT MATCHES
FIRESTEEL RANGER
MINI-BIC LIGHTER
SIGNAL MIRROR (on paracord lanyard)
SNARES
3 ft 550 CORD
CYALUME LIGHTSTICKS
1 – RED
1 – INFRARED
35mm FILM CANISTER
2 – VASELINE/COTTON BALLS
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SPACE ALL WEATHER TARP/GROUNDSHEET
HEFTY LAWN AND LEAF TRASH BAGS
30 - KATADYN MICROPUR MP 1 DRINKING WATER TABLETS
POCKET CHAINSAW
GORILLA TAPE (1.88 in. x 35 yd.)
50 - ZIP TIES
100’ 550 CORD
40 – COFFEE FILTERS
ALTOIDS TIN
6 – VASELINE/COTTON BALLS
FISHING KIT
PLANO BOX
6 – EAGLE CLAW 12” HEAVY DUTY WIRE LEADER 30lb.
6 – EAGLE CLAW #2 BAITHOLDER SNELLS
6 – EAGLE CLAW #4 BAITHOLDER SNELLS
6 – EAGLE CLAW #6 BAITHOLDER SNELLS*
10 – EAGLE CLAW #4 BAITHOLDER
10 – EAGLE CLAW #6 BAITHOLDER
2 – WING-IT BOBBERS
60 – WATER GREMLIN BB SPLIT SHOT 1 – STRINGER
150yd. 65lb. SPIDER WIRE FISHING LINE
S.O.E. IFAK
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4 – BLACK TALON NITRILE GLOVES (L)
10 – 1” FLEXIBLE FABRIC “BAND AID”
10 – FINGERTIP “BAND AID”
10 – KNUCKLE “BAND AID”
10 – 4” x 4” GUAZE PADS
5 - STERI-STRIP WOUND CLOSURES ¼”x 4”
1 – 3” SAMCAM COHESIVE BANDAGE
1 – CAMOVAT TRIANGULAR BANDAGE
1 - TRAU-MEDIC FIELD DRESSING
1 – 4” BANDAGE ROLL
1 – 1”x 10 yd TRANSPORE SURGICAL TAPE
10 – 1/32 oz. NEOSPORIN 6/09
5 - COMPOUND BENZOIN TINTURE 2/3 cc
16 – TYLENOL (acetaminophen 500mg)
16 – ASPIRIN (acetylsalicylic acid 500 mg)
12 – ADVIL (ibuprofen 200 mg)
6 – ALEVE (naproxen 200 mg)
12 – BENADRYL (diphenhydramine HCL 25 mg)
8 – IMODIUM (loperamide HCL 2 mg)
4 – PEPCID COMPLETE
2 – SAFETY PINS
MOLESKIN

KIFARU LITRE PLUS POUCH

NALGENE 1L WIDE MOUTH BOTTLE
SNOW PEAK MINI SOLO TITANIUM COOKSET

KIFARU LITRE PLUS POUCH

KATYDYN POCKET WATER FILTER
CAMELBAK HYDROLINK FILTER ADAPTER
CAMELBAK HYDROLINK PORT PLUG
CAMELBAK FIELD CLEANING KIT
SCRUB PAD

S.O.E. STROBE POUCH

ACR MS-2000(M) STROBE
OMEGA PACIFIC LOCKING OVAL CAMO CARABINER
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Re: Kifaru E&E setup and loadout

Post by NYKh » Thu May 20, 2010 5:15 pm

Nice, what's inside?
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Re: Kifaru E&E setup and loadout

Post by HBAR » Thu May 20, 2010 5:48 pm

NYKh wrote:Nice, what's inside?
There's more to come, I lost my connection.
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Looks like a good post, why do you want to delete it?
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Post by AZMedic » Fri May 21, 2010 1:37 pm

I like its small and compact. I forgot what are coffee filters used for?
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Post by whisk.e.rebellion » Fri May 21, 2010 1:39 pm

AZMedic wrote:I like its small and compact. I forgot what are coffee filters used for?
Last ditch water filtering maybe?

Is this a bug-out bag? No food...but maybe it's because of the OP's connection issues.
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whisk.e.rebellion wrote:
AZMedic wrote:I like its small and compact. I forgot what are coffee filters used for?
Last ditch water filtering maybe?

Is this a bug-out bag? No food...but maybe it's because of the OP's connection issues.
That's correct. It's a good way to get debris out of the water.
I pack some too.

There is never too much duct tape. But, that's too much. :mrgreen:
I went to the store (Starbucks) and grabbed couple of non-activated gift cards.
Wrapped duct tape over that. Plenty of tape and very compact.
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Re: Mods please delete - I give up

Post by HBAR » Fri May 21, 2010 2:47 pm

CipherNameRaVeN wrote:Looks like a good post, why do you want to delete it?
The P.I.T.A. meter pegged.
I tried to post nore pics and text and the screen wouldn't sit still. It always scrolled away from where I was trying to work.
That, and getting the 850 pixel note. I resize my pics about a half a dozen times each and it says they're still too big when they're shrunk down to the point you can't see any detail.



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Post by ninja-elbow » Fri May 21, 2010 2:51 pm

Yeah, I have that same problem on my laptop at home. It's why you see me do long posts with pictures in chapters :lol:

I like your rig though, nice and small and probably pretty easy to go from behind car seat to your back or even on a bigger pack (as I assume this one can do being Kifaru).

What do you use this rig for? Is it EDCed or in your vehicle? Is this your "day hike" rig?
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Post by CipherNameRaVeN » Fri May 21, 2010 2:56 pm

ninja-elbow wrote:Yeah, I have that same problem on my laptop at home. It's why you see me do long posts with pictures in chapters :lol:
That is so strange. I never have a problem on a PC or laptop. I like the post though. I think you should fix your laptop and continue. :wink:
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Post by TDW586 » Fri May 21, 2010 3:19 pm

It does look like a nice kit, I wouldn't mind seeing the whole thing if you can get your computer to cooperate.
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Post by congochris » Fri May 21, 2010 3:23 pm

when I do long posts with pics, I cheat. I compose the whole post in notepad, and bop back and for to check code if I forgot which smiley I wanted or something.

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Post by HBAR » Fri May 21, 2010 3:24 pm

ninja-elbow wrote:Yeah, I have that same problem on my laptop at home. It's why you see me do long posts with pictures in chapters :lol:

I like your rig though, nice and small and probably pretty easy to go from behind car seat to your back or even on a bigger pack (as I assume this one can do being Kifaru).

What do you use this rig for? Is it EDCed or in your vehicle? Is this your "day hike" rig?
Thanks,

This augments my Marauder, which is still a work in progress. I set up my packs (EMR, Marauder and this E&E) for different contingencies. The E&E carries the stuff that I've found myself wanting at times. (tape, ties, cord) Plus, the equipment for emergencies. (medical, shelter, water, food gatering)

The Marauder is set up for weapons support, trauma, communications, etc.. The EMR is set up as an INCH pack. (clothing, MREs, more trauma)

I normally just carry the E&E everyday but depending on the situation I'll carry it and the Marauder or I'll have all three hooked together.

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Post by HBAR » Fri May 21, 2010 3:30 pm

CipherNameRaVeN wrote:
ninja-elbow wrote:Yeah, I have that same problem on my laptop at home. It's why you see me do long posts with pictures in chapters :lol:
That is so strange. I never have a problem on a PC or laptop. I like the post though. I think you should fix your laptop and continue. :wink:
I swear, I was this close to taking the M4 to this thing.

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Re: Mods please delete - I give up

Post by HBAR » Fri May 21, 2010 3:33 pm

Is there a rule of thumb about what size the pics need to be?

All it says is 850 pixel max. That doesn't tell me anything.

When my blood pressure come's back down I'll see about finishing the first post.

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Post by ninja-elbow » Fri May 21, 2010 3:47 pm

congochris wrote:when I do long posts with pics, I cheat. I compose the whole post in notepad, and bop back and for to check code if I forgot which smiley I wanted or something.
Oooo, I forgot about that one; I've used word before too.

Sorry OP, looks like none of us has figured out the problem, only went around it ... like water. :)
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Re: Kifaru E&E setup and loadout

Post by Woods Walker » Fri May 21, 2010 4:43 pm

I have the same bag but in MC. Tend to pack less within my E&E as it goes on the back of my EMR and don't want to have too much weight outside the pack. I would roll some of that duct tape on a playing card to save bulk.
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Post by congochris » Fri May 21, 2010 4:56 pm

I stick with letting photobucket resize my stuff online to 800x600. 99 times out of 100 the stuff I put on photobucket is for posting on a forum somewhere.

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Re: Kifaru E&E setup and loadout

Post by HBAR » Fri May 21, 2010 7:26 pm

There!

Finally!

Done!

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Re: Kifaru E&E setup and loadout

Post by Crazypants » Fri May 21, 2010 8:34 pm

HBAR,

Nice set up! Thanks for going through the headache to make such a detailed post.

I recently busted the piggy bank and picked up a Kifaru Marauder. I plan on getting a couple long pockets for the sides and have been debating between an E&E or a claymore for the back. Since your set up is very similar to mine I'm going to edit in questions as I think of them.

1. How much added weight does your packed E&E add when lashed to your Marauder?

2. I've been concerned a packed E&E would throw the balance of my pack off. Have you experienced this or any other noticeable discomfort when the 2 are combined? I did get the padded Omni Pals belt with my pack. But weight is already proving to be my biggest enemy.

3. I've been looking for a rain pack cover and am surprised Kifaru doesn't make them. Have you or anyone else found anything that works on a Marauder?

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Re: Kifaru E&E setup and loadout

Post by HBAR » Sat May 22, 2010 8:48 am

Crazypants wrote:HBAR,

Nice set up! Thanks for going through the headache to make such a detailed post.

I recently busted the piggy bank and picked up a Kifaru Marauder. I plan on getting a couple long pockets for the sides and have been debating between an E&E or a claymore for the back. Since your set up is very similar to mine I'm going to edit in questions as I think of them.

1. How much added weight does your packed E&E add when lashed to your Marauder?

2. I've been concerned a packed E&E would throw the balance of my pack off. Have you experienced this or any other noticeable discomfort when the 2 are combined? I did get the padded Omni Pals belt with my pack. But weight is already proving to be my biggest enemy.

3. I've been looking for a rain pack cover and am surprised Kifaru doesn't make them. Have you or anyone else found anything that works on a Marauder?

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Re: Kifaru E&E setup and loadout

Post by HBAR » Sat May 22, 2010 8:51 am

Crazypants wrote:HBAR,

Nice set up! Thanks for going through the headache to make such a detailed post.

I recently busted the piggy bank and picked up a Kifaru Marauder. I plan on getting a couple long pockets for the sides and have been debating between an E&E or a claymore for the back. Since your set up is very similar to mine I'm going to edit in questions as I think of them.

1. How much added weight does your packed E&E add when lashed to your Marauder?

2. I've been concerned a packed E&E would throw the balance of my pack off. Have you experienced this or any other noticeable discomfort when the 2 are combined? I did get the padded Omni Pals belt with my pack. But weight is already proving to be my biggest enemy.

3. I've been looking for a rain pack cover and am surprised Kifaru doesn't make them. Have you or anyone else found anything that works on a Marauder?
You're not going to regret the Marauder. I had long pockets on the side of mine for a while - I've changed the setup on it several times. It made me realize that the Marauder is best used in one way:

POCKET MAGNET

I plan on using mine to open up and spread it out on the ground or hang it up on a tree or wall and work out of it. It can even be opened up while I'm wearing it.

The Marauder/E&E combo just adds more versatility to the system - so you can adjust the load to what you need or split it up if you have help.

If and when I ruck up the raingear, lightsticks and sidekick pouch comes out of the E&E and go in my pockets and the BMF goes on my belt. That reduces the weight from 20 pounds to 14 pounds. When it's docked to the Marauder and it's ~ 40 pounds you don't even know it's back there - as long as the weight is distributed evenly. The padded Omni belt helps a lot also. Plus with the extra PALS area on it gives you space for more pouches.

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Re: Kifaru E&E setup and loadout

Post by HBAR » Sat May 22, 2010 8:53 am

This thing is pissing me off!

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Re: Mods please delete - I give up

Post by HBAR » Sat May 22, 2010 9:50 am

CipherNameRaVeN wrote:
whisk.e.rebellion wrote:
AZMedic wrote:I like its small and compact. I forgot what are coffee filters used for?
Last ditch water filtering maybe?

Is this a bug-out bag? No food...but maybe it's because of the OP's connection issues.
That's correct. It's a good way to get debris out of the water.
I pack some too.

There is never too much duct tape. But, that's too much. :mrgreen:
I went to the store (Starbucks) and grabbed couple of non-activated gift cards.
Wrapped duct tape over that. Plenty of tape and very compact.
Coffee filters are for pre-filtering water. Either tied onto the pickup of the Katadyn or I put the pickup in the pot, wrap some filters over the top and dip water into the pot and then pump it through the Katadyn.

I agree, there is never too much duct tape. You guys have obviosly never seen me fix anything before.

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