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So, do you bring BBQ sauce as part of your kit? :P

This reminds me, I need to start my handgun collection, now that I'm old enough. I'm thinkin a .22 revolver would make a good pack gun :P

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Squirrley wrote:
So, do you bring BBQ sauce as part of your kit? :P


Garlic powder makes anything delicious. :D

P.S. A .22 pistol is a great tool for small game and lots of cheap fun for practice. Great choice!

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No BBQ sauce in my kit. I do have some uncooked oats, molasses and some spices so I could whip up something like a BBQ sauce (if you like it texas style that is). Learning to cook is a realatively cheap survival skill to learn... ditch the kitchen and break out the hibachi :)

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Question. It's time to bug out. Do you know where you're going?

If the SHTF Saturday do you have a place picked to bug out too? If you don't your chances of survival are not as good as they should be.

So get a Delorme Gazateer or old maps and go inspect the marked springs, rivers, oasis's and abandoned ranchs. Find a reliable source of water.

Well you've found a reliable water source now look around. Does it look like a party spot. Can you be seen from the main road. Are you out in the open. Are there lots of tire tracks? If so you may want to keep looking.

I'll tell you a little about my Bug out spot.

It is Southwest of Parker AZ. and Northwest of Desert Center, Ca. Thats as near as I'll get.

It's a spring. It is at the bottom of some foothills still in the Arroyo area. No tire tracks in the area. I can hide a truck and trailer so as not to be seen from 20 yards away. A combination of land shape and cammo tarps to hide me from airborn sighting. It's also an easily defended location.

The area is rich in reptiles, quail, rabbits, coyote and deer.

Once I found this spot after searching for a while and none of the above negatives were present. I started looking for positives. Lots of critter tracks around the water . Lots of critter poo in the area. Lots of game trails. Lots of big bushes and some trees. That provides Bldg. material and firewood.

Which reminds me. About fires. Small fires and sit close. A hatfull of fire will cook your food and cut the chill. Don't let your fire give you away. Use dry wood to reduce smoke. If you can have your fire under a tree or ledge to disapate and hide any smoke that you generate.

The other thing I did there was to dig out below the spring to create a pool. Have you guessed my plan? I'm getting dinner used to drinking where I want them to be.

Prepare your place. Prepare your gear and prepare you mindset and you'll do fine.

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Just posted my nascent BOB/FAK that I EDC. Here is the link clicky

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Just saw this the other day while trying to figure out how to tie some knots on the instructables site. It reminded me of this thread, so I thought I'd post it :P

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Squirrley wrote:
So, do you bring BBQ sauce as part of your kit? :P

This reminds me, I need to start my handgun collection, now that I'm old enough. I'm thinkin a .22 revolver would make a good pack gun :P

You know, I actually DO pack BBQ sauce in my BOB. I got a few of those small packets of BBQ sauce and A1 packets to compliment my salt/pepper/crushed red pepper packets. Weight is negligible and makes food tasty.

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Ummm.. I live in Southeast Utah.


Does that count for this?





(if it does count, link is in my sig)

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Ummm.. I live in Southeast Utah.
Does that count for this?
yep. from the original post on page 1:
"So I invite you AZ, CA, NM, NV, UT, TX and international desert folks to share your links and pics here."

I'll add your link to the page 1 directory.

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*points to Sig Line*

FAK is waaay outdated, I have a STOMP II now, Bob is fairly current but I have updated it since. Really don't have a GHB and my EDC isn't anything special.

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Sckitzo wrote:
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FAK is waaay outdated, I have a STOMP II now, Bob is fairly current but I have updated it since. Really don't have a GHB and my EDC isn't anything special.

added yours to the first page list too. :)

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FAK is waaay outdated, I have a STOMP II now, Bob is fairly current but I have updated it since. Really don't have a GHB and my EDC isn't anything special.

added yours to the first page list too. :)


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Ugh. Seeing this thread makes me realize I'm going to need to re-inventory / repost my bag and get some tips on reducing its weight. Given my new permanent foot problems I dont think I can handle 50 lbs. :oops:

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Seeing as i DO qualify for this (i didn't see the "So I invite you AZ, CA, NM, NV, UT, TX and international desert folks to share your links and pics here" deal :oops: )

I'll share some tips that i've learned over the years.

First, carry a SHIT-TON of water. Doesn't matter if you're just going for a day hike, carry AT LEAST 3 to 4 liters of water. With means to get more. (But that's always what's been beat into my head from an early age, so YMMV)

Second, the means to get more involves a filter, tabs, and prefilter. Maybe with a settling bottle/bladder for sediments. The reason behind this is, the water that you DO manage to find out in the hills is not very potable. Image a smallish sandstone pothole with rat, deer, cougar, whatever feces around and in it. Do you really want to drink straight from there? I wouldn't without heavy filtration AND boiling. Even then, i might just move on to find a better source, depending on how badly i need water.

Third, save heavy work for early in the morning and later at night if you can help it. Why? Because the sun beats down on you and dehydrates you faster. But here in the mountainy parts of Utah, it's not so bad.

Also, sunscreen and chapstick are heavenly.

Fourth, make sure you have proper sleeping gear. It might seem like a nice day when it's 80+ outside but at night it gets darn cold. Maybe down in the 40s to 50s? (correct me if i'm wrong people). A ranger roll probably ain't going to cut it (some people it'd work for, just not me though)

Fifth, clean your boots/shoes out periodically when you can. Sand in socks rubbing your feet, not cool.

Sixth, watch where you put your hands and feet. If you don't, you might just find a snake or spider latched onto you. Also, be wary of bears and mountain lions. Make some noise as you walk just in case.



Hope i contributed :)

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if you're new to the desert y'all might find the info in this thread helpful:
Surviving in Arizona back country

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Well my reply comes 8 years later, lol. This is going to be long-winded, so bear with me, this is my first "real" post. I'm just going to go straight down the list, so here goes. Tips-We live in the desert. Water is life. Carry it, and means to get more. I have a vacuum tumbler, extra water bottle, and 3 gallons of drinking water in my truck, just for me during my every day commute. Here in the desert, people can, and have died in as little as a day without water. We have all seen reports of illegal immigrants crossing the border only to be found dead due to dehydration. E-tools are a must. Someone earlier disregarded them as not necessary, and people's opinions are fine, but I have used my E-tool more times than I can count, from digging catholes and vehicle recovery to covering firepits. Thankfully I have never needed to dig for water, but it's comforting to know that we have the means. Heat kills. The overhead intensity of the sun more than anything. We can survive the ambient heat if we are in shade, but the overhead UV radiation really kills. Cover your exposed skin as much as possible, wear a hat and sunglasses, and use sunscreen if you are going to be out in the sun for more than 10 minutes. Those tips are enough to keep us all alive. Let's be smart as collective please. Water is our first priority more than anything. Heat is bad, but you can at least drink hot water, you can't drink water if you don't have any. You can use your E-tool to find water. Like how all 3 of those things tie together pretty well? :wink:

EDC-Vacuum tumbler filled with ice water, minimalist HellBent Holsters Combat Wallet, my Smartphone(which has $50 cash hidden behind the case for emergencies), a Cold Steel Finn Wolf folder, truck keys with NiteIze Doohickey, Keybar with all my other keys, a Surefire E1L Outdoorsman flashlight, non-marring leather belt, and a Ruger LCP with the built-in Viridian laser and a spare 10-rd magazine.

GHB-Ogio Fugitive-This bag was actually given to me, but feels very well built, rugged, and doesn't stick out like a sore thumb with the "tacticool" crowd. I live only about a 5 minute drive from work, so my GHB is relatively small, but useful if I have to make the brisk 20 minute walk home. Inside my GHB is a spare set of clothes(I'm a mechanic, so my clothes do get soaked in oil/dirty/torn/sweaty from time to time, so the spare set of clothes is useful on the day to day basis as well), an Adventure Medical "Whitetail" kit with an additional QuickClot pack I added to it, a LifeStraw, an extra water bottle, a Surefire E2D LED Defender, a Metolius locking climbing carabiner and a BLACKHAWK! non-locking carabiner(both high-load capacity), an LED headlamp, a balaclava, and a few little odds and ends not worth mentioning. My GHB also functions as a diaper bag for my kids during day/weekend trips, so it also houses diapers, wipes, extra set of clothes for both kids, snack items, personal information for both kids, and a few toys such as a fidget spinner, matchbox cars, etc. My son is autistic, so he also has a stuffed dragon "backpack" that has a small ID and information, and a leash that I can dummy-cord to me, my pack, or I can hold. We routinely drive 100 miles or so round trip from home, so on those days, we also have a small cooler that is filled with ice packs, frozen and liquid water bottles.

Vehicle-Has all your normal roadside equipment(jumper cables, oil, water, etc), a second, more complete GHB Duffel (with clothes, LifeStraw, fire kit, etc), a 5lb. fire extinguisher, extra boots for me, 3 gallons of extra drinking water, fire kit, a heavy duty emergency reflective blanket(not the thin emergency style, but the real thick sewn military grade style), and a folding E-tool(someone mentioned keeping an E-tool in their BOB or GHB, I keep mine in the vehicle for roadside emergencies, but since I am always close to my vehicle, I can grab it and throw it in my pack when I need it).

BOB AND EVAC-More complete version of the GHB, it is a Camelbak MotherLode in Army ACU, with the NBCR bladder. Contains an Ontario Kukri, 4 Mountain House freeze dried meals, has a seperate military surplus canteen(with the NBCR gas mask drinking adapter cap steel canteen "kidney cup" chapstick, water purifier tablets, and a small knife, all contained in the artificial wool lined ACU cover), 2 lifestraws, a Sawyer Mini in-line water purifier kit(includes the filter, backflush syringe, collapsible water bottle) a Sawyer Bite/Sting Extractor kit, a collapsible camp pillow, a 3-season sleeping bag, 3 separate fire kits, 3 emergency ponchos, a crank NOAA radio, signal mirror, and probably more that I can't think of right now. In a TEOTWAKI scenario, I will be laden down with an assault vest(still working on getting a plate carrier), long gun, sidearm, and I have a takedown .410 shotgun that will go inside the MotherLode. My wife will have a long gun, sidearm, and she will have the Fugitive pack. She will take on kid in her car, I will take one kid in my truck and we will head North, staying to the smaller State Routes and streets.

If I missed anything, or if anyone has any comments or questions, feel free to let me know. Thanks for letting me put my $0.02 in!


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