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Re: USB Drives

Post by andygates » Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:22 pm

Nice, but money for old rope. As has been posted already, they're waterproof - the only advantage of the Survivor's waterproof cap is that it keeps the *connector* dry. I can wipe that and flick it out, and the microvault type just need a wipedown as there's no enclosure. ;) Damn hard to kill, too -- they all are. Nature of the beast.

USB sticks rock.
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Re: USB Drives

Post by spanish dog man » Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:26 pm

I keep one in my safe and a duplicate one on me password protected. I have some information on my yahoo page coded so I can access incase of an extreme emergency situation I cna get to these important documents. I think I might order one of those survivor ones they look cool

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Post by poesson » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:31 pm

Berto wrote:Survivor USB Drive Results


Drive is still water tight even after being run over, it has some fairly deep marks in the aluminum which is the only proof I ran over it. This thing rocks!

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Post by Ammonium » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:34 am

poesson wrote:Here's a review about the Survivor in an emergency scenario.

http://www.woodsmonkey.com/index.php?op ... &Itemid=60
I looked and looked, but couldn't find a review of the Survivor anywhere on that page. I did find 20 pages of rambling about various uses for a USB drive. :lol:

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Re: USB Drives

Post by Copperhead » Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:06 pm

+1 for the Ironkey. I Bought one some time back. They aren't cheap, but I think they are worth it. It has been riding in my pocket for almost a year and a half. Run it through the wash and dryer a few times, dropped it down 4 flights of stairs, and generally abused the crap out of it. Still works perfect, and has only a few scratches. The only down side is that they won't work on Macs. Maybe some emulation software could fix that?
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Re: USB Drives

Post by SnakeCharmer » Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:35 pm

Can't have enough flash drives in my opinion. I too have had them go through the was, and dryer. I carry 4, 2 GB USB drives, 1 4 GB USB drive, 1 2 GB Micro SD drive 1 1 GB SD drive 1 converter from Micro to SD and one from Mini to SD. I bought a little case from case logic that I keep in my EDC (Maxpedition Jumbo).

I also have an 8 GB Micro SD in my Cell Phone. I figure if I have electricity I can get the info. Now all I need is a SD to USB converter and I am set.

FYI, I use these just about twice a week, I would not suggest all these for PAW prep, but I find them usefull for many things that I do at work, with friends and at my First Aid Squad.
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Re: USB Drives

Post by TheFreakinBear » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:50 pm

Flash drives are handy as fuck. What you need to do is buy a USB SD card reader and then just start buying a shit ton of SD cards. When SD cards go on sale, they are cheaper than their USB counterparts. After you've bought even just 4, you've paid for the SD card reader. You can currently buy up to 32GBs but those are hard to find even still. I use them to back up survival manuals, important documents, etc and I can fit a lot more of those into a USB flash drive case then I could ever stuff it with flash drives of equivalent 'disk' space.
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Re: USB Drives

Post by ZedR1 » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:53 pm

I kinda want one of these..

http://usb.brando.com.hk/usb-microsd-hc ... 31d15.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: USB Drives

Post by Brendan Sullivan » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:49 am

I commend you on your necropost, TFB. This is one of the items I have been wanting for my loadout for a very long time and have never come forth and just asked what ones are a good buy. I'll be picking up a Corsair Survivor as well as an SD card reader post-haste. I was all ready to have a shitty day and this may turn it around. Damn.

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Re: USB Drives

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Re: USB Drives

Post by KMAC179 » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:04 pm

ironkey.com

best thumb drive on the market. I have two. They have been through hell and back, and still in 1 piece. They have gone through the laundry multiple times, been in the pool (with me) multiple times. Been ran over with the rest of my gear. thrown around, kicked around. and they still work perfectly. They are 100% secure, encrypted to hell. i will never own another flash drive for 1st line use.
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Re: USB Drives

Post by TheFreakinBear » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:29 pm

Yeah and when you fuck up the password, I believe it's 10x, you lose everything. Not worth it. If someone wants to be a dick they just have to start messing with it and your data is toast.
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Re: USB Drives

Post by KMAC179 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:27 am

TheFreakinBear wrote:Yeah and when you fuck up the password, I believe it's 10x, you lose everything. Not worth it. If someone wants to be a dick they just have to start messing with it and your data is toast.
you can set the number of password attempts. I have mine set to 3. However, my data is also backed up online via ironkeys secure system. So my data is never really lost, just, annoyingly moved in the event that anything happens. And thats also why I have two, straight out of the department of redundancy department, IT division of information technology.
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Re: USB Drives

Post by TheFreakinBear » Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:26 pm

I just don't think for survival purposes they are good enough for the money. For data that I would transfer every day to and from work that might be sensitive then yeah, they're great. Outside of that? I don't think that having my data backed up online after everything has been knocked out is good enough.
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Re: USB Drives

Post by andygates » Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:10 pm

I think there's a good argument for the "dandelion" approach with USB - lots of cheap copies and who cares if you lose a few?
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Re: USB Drives

Post by TheFreakinBear » Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:30 pm

That's what I'm saying about SD Cards with an SD card reader. It replaces your Flashdrive with many smaller cards. I have maybe like 15 of them bad boys and I spent 1/4 to 1/2 the amount of money that I would have to have purchases their Flashdrive counterparts. 2gb SD cards are cheap as hell, typically from MicroCenter. I bought a 16gb SD card from there for like $25. Nooch.
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Re: USB Drives

Post by andygates » Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:39 pm

Which reminds me, there's a test I want to see done with micro SD cards. Can the data survive being swallowed?

Micro SD fits in lots of cameras and the like, so in the case where the Bad Guys want to shut your reportage down, you could swallow the card. Now, I know (because a bored student did it for me) that a micro SD card can be swallowed without damage to the swallower.

But students are too ditzy to remember the next morning, and the data part hasn't been tested...
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Re: USB Drives

Post by TheFreakinBear » Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:45 pm

Andy, that is not only crazy but crazy brilliant! I would just shit into a bag or something somehow after swallowing it.

I wonder if you could somehow laminate it....it would protect it from stomach acid and then you could cut the laminate off later....I'm thinking in terms of long term....not your pill-swallowing short term deal.
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Post by KMAC179 » Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:58 pm

TheFreakinBear wrote:I just don't think for survival purposes they are good enough for the money. For data that I would transfer every day to and from work that might be sensitive then yeah, they're great. Outside of that? I don't think that having my data backed up online after everything has been knocked out is good enough.
Fair enough. I wasnt really referring to a survival situation exclusively, but a regular EDC use. It is just nice piece of mind. I also have tons of cheap thumb drives, and lots of SD cards..somewhere. They are really nice to have, cheaper than flash drives and more storage. just maybe less convenient as you need a card reader to utilize them
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Re: USB Drives

Post by TheFreakinBear » Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:59 pm

Aside from the survival aspect, those iron key flash drives rock man, don't get me wrong!
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Re: USB Drives

Post by spacetyrant » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:56 am

I agree the drive itself is one of the coolest ones I've seen, but I believe you can get pretty much the same functionality in any USB drive with Passpack, TrueCrypt, TOR, and the portable-apps version of Firefox, all of which can be had for free.

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Post by TheFreakinBear » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:24 am

The thing about the IronKey drives is that they are very durable and can withstand a lot. For someone who works for the CIA or where you would rather your information / data destroyed vs. being stolen, they work great. For everyday use or survivalism I don't think they work well because of the whole invalid password attempt thing that would destroy your data. Some asshole can just mess with it and BICKETY BAM - you're done son.
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Post by rotncore » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:20 pm

Nexy wrote:
rotncore wrote:Verbatim makes one that has embedded software that encrypts the data and erases it after 10 failed password guesses, I use that one for security.
Is that one of the Store 'N 'Go Pro or Corp sticks? How secure do you need it, fend off a determined hacker or stop your average criminal? Is the encryption done actually done in hardware? Is the deletion on failed authentication done on a hardware or software level? I can't find Verbatim giving a proper writeup of the tech...

Personally I wouldn't bother with V-Safe, if that's what you're using, use Truecrypt or Passworded (AES Encrypted) RAR files or just ZIP them and encrypt them. More work, but far less likely to be broken and far more compatible. I can't see V-Safe working on anything other than XP or 2000.

Or do it properly and go for IronKey.
http://www.verbatim.com/security/pdfs/USB-Corporate.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hardware based, the Corporate Secure. I use TrueCrypt on my daily use drives (I don't need/want everything encrypted on my EDC), but wanted to point out that options exist for the less technically inclined. TrueCrypt isn't the most user friendly for everyone, and people can get lazy with the mounting steps, negating the security. Ironkey is a good option too, but costs more than free like my Verbatim did.

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Re: USB Drives

Post by Merovech » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:02 pm

This is my review on the ATP toughdrive thumb Drive I have in my BoB...

http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopi ... 14&t=47782" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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