2016 ZS Winter MBO chat thread.

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2016 ZS Winter MBO chat thread.

Post by Woods Walker » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:31 am

Just a chat thread for the 2016 Winter MBO contest which is on till the last day of winter.
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Post by Woods Walker » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:55 am

Well I did my first entry and packing up for a hot tent MBO outing for next week!
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Re: 2016 ZS Winter MBO chat thread.

Post by Asymetryczna » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:51 am

After much anticipation, watched The Revenant last night after standing outside the theater without a coat for as long as I could to fully appreciate the cold weather in the movie. There are several good scenes of creating a spark in less than desired conditions but I suspect that you know it is not that big of a deal when it is the common practice.
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Re: 2016 ZS Winter MBO chat thread.

Post by modustollens » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:15 pm

Have a write up in the works myself; sitting at -23C here at the moment but I have to play hockey this weekend so I may have to get out in the cold next weekend - maybe it will be even colder? Are there extra points for extra cold?

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Re: 2016 ZS Winter MBO chat thread.

Post by Woods Walker » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:58 am

Asymetryczna wrote:After much anticipation, watched The Revenant last night after standing outside the theater without a coat for as long as I could to fully appreciate the cold weather in the movie. There are several good scenes of creating a spark in less than desired conditions but I suspect that you know it is not that big of a deal when it is the common practice.
I don't think what was done in that movie would actually work in terms of traditional flint and steel methodology. The dry grass would not be able to catch a spark from the carbon steel implament and rock. I did see him messing around with black powder but didn't see any quantity to actually catch the spark rather he sprinkled it on the tinder pile before striking and then more after. It just didn't seem right. Here is my dissertation on the topic. Flint and steel without charred materials using stuff gathered within a day is actually very very challenging. With proper charred materials or prepared tinder it's easy, so much so it was used by nearly all peoples who learned of the methodology until the relatively new invention of the match.

Wet chaga and wild rock.



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A Bic lighter is much easier. :lol:
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Post by VTPATRIOT » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:27 pm

I remember when my son did this years back & got a nice patch for his efforts
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Re: 2016 ZS Winter MBO chat thread.

Post by Woods Walker » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:27 pm

VTPATRIOT wrote:I remember when my son did this years back & got a nice patch for his efforts
The boy scouts do flint and steel with charcloth. It's a bit different but the same methodology. Totally fun! :D
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Re: 2016 ZS Winter MBO chat thread.

Post by Woods Walker » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:34 pm

Just got back the other day from another MBO. This time 4 days out. There are guns, heated shelter and even a drone!
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Re: 2016 ZS Winter MBO chat thread.

Post by Asymetryczna » Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:08 pm

I watched for powder as well, or something. I like the idea that it only takes a single spark to get a fire going but I didn't see the spark nor tinder other than a clump of grass in the movie. Plus, imagine how much time it took to train that bear. Thanks for posting the vids. It is a vital skill. "Anyone got a lighter?" is a question that will not be answered for long...time being relative and all....
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Re: 2016 ZS Winter MBO chat thread.

Post by VTPATRIOT » Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:09 pm

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VTPATRIOT wrote:I remember when my son did this years back & got a nice patch for his efforts
The boy scouts do flint and steel with charcloth. It's a bit different but the same methodology. Totally fun! :D
Ah how soon you forgot WW, my son was I think 13 then when he participated on his own in this event here on ZS in 2011
he survived & received his ZS mock bugout patch for doing so, see my avatar
he is still out & about every weekend
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