Great pics and write up. And great load out. You can tell you put a lot of time and thinking into your INCH loadout.
Thanks man, its appreciated!
(You really need to weigh it. If for nothing else everyone elses reference. When reading this they may want to put together a similar load out. But might end up to far on the heavy side for what they can carry. It also gives us some input into how to heavy this loadout may be. Where you might save some weight. Or where some extra weight may be feasible.)
Good point, As soon as I'm able I will weigh it and post it up for everybody
1) My first loadout had a lot of pouches. They take up a lot of weight. I would reconsider as many of them as you can. But more specifically I would look at the war belt and the chest rig. Do you really need both? It seems like they overlap a lot. I think your strategy is that you can wear one under your jacket while in town(?). While the other is more visible(?). I think you should consider consolidating your gear into one form of chest rig or war belt. They both sort of serve the same purpose. And why take along more web gear than you absolutely have to? Especially ones that sometimes run empty. You could be making room for more essential items like food or ammo.
The battlebelt is an on again, off again idea of mine. Sometimes it seems great, other times like you mentioned its kind of redundant. The idea behind it was to have a less bulky piece of gear that could be worn around camp or scouting. If I had to go to town or approach other folks it covers very nicely by my jacket.. it not as in your face as say donning the fully eqipped chest rig. And If for any reason you have to go sneaky pete the battlebelt allows better movement in a prone position. Pack wise the belt is carried empty (anything used in it is equipped from stuff from the pack of the chest rig). It stuffs comfortably behind my sleeping bag as well. The pack and chest rig are the essential components, I figure if the battlebelt becomes useless I can probably ditch it or trade it for something on the road, lol.
2) Again sort of another "pouch" issue. But have you considered loading your pack up a little more and ditching some of your pouches. I think that pack has some more room at the top. I don't think you would be sacraficing to much to add more inside of it. In exchange for another pouch or two. Say that big pouch on your pack waistbelt. That does not look to comfortable.
Unfortunatley im kinda of anal about pouches, contents and placement.. when backpacking with friends etc, I couldn't stand it when we would have to spend 15 minutes standing around while someone pulled the entire contents of their pack out and didg through a gigantic stuffsack to get their hat out or something. I set mine up so that everything I need is placed in a way that accessible when needed. For example that big pouch on my hip is snivel gear, like hat, gloves, and my goretex jacket..
3) I really like how you've loaded the AR. I think everyone with an inch bag should have a means of packing their long gun. I would also consider some form of concealment though. Say a scabbard or a simple multicam bag. At least make it look like tent poles or something. I also didn't notice any kind of sling. A nice one or two point sling will keep the weight off your arms when carrying it. I also love that your pack lid serves as a patrol pack. And that you've outfitted yourself with a "patrol" or EDC loadout for when your not with your pack. That should be part of every INCH bag IMHO.
I originally had a HSGI M.A.R.S. scabbard mounted there and it worked pretty well, but it really locked the rifle into place (not a bad thing) but it made it impossible to release quickly. With the current setup, the rifle is help in place by the kifaru long pocket.
The Long pocket is packed with my kifaru woobie so it also acts as padding/protection for the firearm. It takes about two seconds to release the dock and lock buckles on the pockets and pull the rifle free. You make a good point though, I may be able to conceal it in some way, I'll have to think on it!
I also do have a VTAC sling on QD swivels. In the combat gunbearer holster (right side carry) the sling flops all over the place and catches on brush, so I can quick release the sling for that mounting position. Good catch though, I totally forgot to include the sling in my list.
5) What is the USGI strobe for? Assuming it's an INCH pack - rescue does not seem like it would be on the menu. I question whether you need this in an INCH pack.
Its for signaling in general.. you can see the thing forever. It also has an IR function, so in theory if I hook up with someone with NV they can spot me in the heat of it, lol. I've used it a couple of times on night hikes where you leave your gear at camp.. pop the strobe and find your way back to camp later easy peasy, lol. I've also used it when others were meeting up with me in an offtrail location at night. I guess that could attract baddies in a tough spot though .
6) First aid kit. I'd ditch the tape and maybe add a little more duct tape. Duct tape is better IMHO, you can make pretty much any bandage out of it. I'd also ditch the bandaids for the same reason. I'd also ditch the cold compress. That's a boo boo item so it's up to you. Who knows you may have a bad knee. I have bad...well...I carry metemucil for a similar reason. LOL!
MY FAK is another point of contention with me, lol.. I used to equip it with less stuff, but it always seemed like what I needed, tape and bandaids basically, were never in the damn kit lol. I just equip it with stuff that I actually use now.. kinda ditched the whole "this is the perfect FAK" idea a while ago. Hell, in reality, all I really need it seems is bandaids and tape, and I only use those when Im bleeding all over my clothes etc.. lol. I should probably ditch the cold compress, that's a good point.
I might consider some bug spray. And some anti-biotics and pain killers for use and for trade. They're worth more than their weight in gold. And you can carry a lot more of them than gold.
7) IMHO you have to many knives. Ditch the folders. And keep the fixed blade and the larger leatherman (although I think you could use a lighter weight leatherman and get away with it. I have the Surge and that thing is a beast!). I don't see the need for that additional weight of the two folders. I'd also ditch the little multitool. And keep the surge in your patrol pack.
Yep, already ditched the small knife and small multitool.. it was kinda overkill. I do like having a folder though, so I will keep that in.
9) I'd trade your metal medic scissors for the flat sheet metal medic shears (can't think of the technical name for them but you get my drift.) They just seem to cut so much more. And stay together when doing that far longer. YMMV.
I have a pair of those, but they are super bulky.. I went this route for size, weight etc
10) What kind of compass is that? Do you have a backup? Even a button compass (or two) will do.
Its a Silva. No backup, a button compass may be just the thing, thansk!
11) You need a couple more Bic lighters IMHO. At least for an INCH bag.
Will do, they are light as well so good idea.
12) Your really light on food gathering tools. I would put more snares, but better yet, some metal traps like conibears or duke foothold traps in depending on your AO. Same with fishing gear as previously mentioned. I would consider hightest braided fishing line. I carry 300yds of 50lb test. And it takes up no room and no weight.
Another member mentioned this as well, so Im definitely going to look into it
13) I could get away with fewer mags. But I'm a weight cutting whore.
Mags are staying, sorry, lol
14) I also love the OPSEC poncho. Those have been on my radar for some time. Glad to hear a positive recommendation. HAve you used it a lot?
I use it all the time, and love it. Acts as a tarp, covers all your gear in a downpour in camp, unsnaps to cover backpacks while hiking.. its just awesome!
15) Does that wood stove stow flat? That looks like it takes up a lot of room if it doesn't. I'd consider a smaller wood stove. Love the idea of a wood stove though. I make them. And keep mine in a fabric pouch to keep the black off of everything. But I guess that's what the pouch is by it eh?
It doesn't fold flat, but is very light.. I use an oversized stuff sack and push it down inside. This gives me room to shove other stuff down inside it to use the empty space while keeping soot off everything.
16) I'd swap out the extra usgi canteen for a 2 liter platypus bottle. To go in your patrol pack. REALLY small and lightweight. And will take up WAY less room than the canteen. Unless it serves another purpose I'm not aware of.
I use it because it fits real nice in the water bottle pouch at the base of my pack. Its a backup to my hydration bladder and I can reach it without taking the pack off.
17) Not sure if this is really an issue. As tent vs tarp is really an AO thing. And I think in your AO you'll be happy with a tarp. But there is a lot of bulk in your shelter system. I'm not sure I wouldn't swap out some of it for a tent. Or at least swap out the woobie and bag for one 0 degree sleeping bag. Or if you really need the woobie. I'd consider a lightweight down jacket before I would consider a woobie. I have one that weighs about 8-10 oz's. And is a HEATER. And probably packs down just as small if not smaller.
Never going to give up my woobie man, not going to happen j/k . Seriously though its my favorite piece of kit, it weighs literally nothing a can pack down to a small ball in a pinch. Its a blanket, ground cloth, poncho liner, bag liner, pillow, and concealment all in one. I'm not a big fan of tents, I gave up on the years ago when I lived in the southwest, been a tarp, bivvy kinda guy ever since.
18) Firearm Maintenance. Oh ya it's an AR. LOL!
(Joking. I'll back off into my corner and cradle my AK now.) Not sure you need that big roll out bag for it. Seems like a little overkill. I'd consider a light weight string pouch or something. Maybe even ziplock to keep the smell out of everything else.
The big reason I like the kitmat is that it makes a nice little tarp to clean firearms on in the field.. all the little gun bits can be velcroed to the mat so you don't lose anything into the leaves, dirt etc..
20) Not sure what the ratings are on your solar chargers. But you should check out the reviews here http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Solar-Cha ... ws/Ratings
" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; And take a look at the Bear Grylls and the Instapark 10. You might be able to kill two birds with one stone here. Less tech stuff to go bad. And you might save some room.
Definitely a good point, I've been wanting to upgrade for a while, but I got these charges at a good price, and they work so I just haven't justified the upgrade yet. Its one of those "if it ain't broke don't fix it" situations where the cash could go to something else I might not have yet.
21) Ditch the field jacket. You already have a 3-4 layer jacket system. Why the M65? It's not waterproof and it doesn't provide much in terms of insulation. I'd stick with your fleece as softshell and your ECWCS as your hard shell. I loved my M65 when I was in the Corps. But unless your mechanized. It's wasted weight IMHO.
But I love my field jacket, lol. You are right, its heavy and not H20 proof, but I just like it, lol.
23) What are your boots? They look good.
USMC RAT boots
24) I'd though in a camp shoe. PReferably flip flops. Lightweight. You need to dry off your feet on a daily basis. That's hard to do just sitting or laying down the whole time. At least with camp flip flops you can move around some without getting your feet dirty or wet again.
Another excellent point, thanks!
A really kick ass loadout, offcamber. I'm envious. Hopefully I'll have my pics up soon. My loadout list is done. But I still have a few things on my purchase list. You put a lot of thought into this. And it shows. Keep up the good work. And keep us up to date as you improve and manage this beast. You've done a great job IMHO.
Thanks Patrick, I appreciate the kind words.. Also thanks for posting in the bug-out gear deal thread, I've purchased a number of things that you posted up there at 50-60% off sometimes.