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Ok that might be a bit of click bait as I am not suggesting dumping your outdoor/survival rain gear and clothing for Tyvek coveralls. That said I sometime do summer seal coating and when operating the sprayer at times I will wear Tyvek coveralls. The ones on the job didn't have a hood or booties as wore safety glasses and rubber boots but offered good overall protection. A few times kept the suit on when cleaning the equipment and was reasonably dry despite washing everything down occasionally in the rain. Also on the job it felt like a good wind break. So got to thinking if this would be a good survival kit or daypack item for times when packing full rain gear might be inconvenient because of bulk and weight.

According to Dupont Tyvek is highly water resistant and breathable. Those are characteristics of good outdoors fabrics.

http://www.dupont.com/products-and-serv ... ility.html

Naturally I am not going to pack any kit without first field testing during bad conditions. We had two days of late November rain. Temps in the mid 50's going into the 40's. Hard cold torrential rain in a flooded woods. To add spice into the mix wore the dreaded cotton jeans, shirt and socks. Before some yahoo gives me the "cotton kills is a misnomer" you go out in that this environment with such street clothes and see if a google search taken out of context will save your backside. You will be COLD and soaking WET. Do the math.

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Pitched the side walls lower as the wind was picking up.

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Getting squirrelly out there.

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The Tyvek coveralls. I have seen them from 7 to 14 dollars. I got the extra special ones with hood, zipper flap, attached booties and elastic on hoot and wrists. Six and 1/8 ounces. Packs down small. Kinda glad I packed the MSS bivy as well. Good kit.

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I need something to do in the woods to ensure there is enough work to get my dreaded cotton clothing potentially as wet as possible. I am going to attempt a ferro rod fire without edged tools or any means to shield the tinder. I won't even cover it with my body during the attempt. Personally I didn't give myself much of a chance. It was crazy wet.

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I am heading out! The suit is XXL which fit good with plenty of room. The elastic wrist and hood bands didn't feel restricting. Notice the sweet collared shirt!

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I beat through the bush getting wood and tinder. Hiked up and down hills. Forded a flooded feeder brook that was somehow knee deep surprising me. Here is my sad firecraft.

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The more I attempted to fluff the tinder the wetter it actually got. Doesn't help the stuff was soaked to the core from the get go. I made no attempt to shield the tinder or wood. Didn't bring it under the tarp. Had no edged tools. Didn't use the dry tinder inside Strikeforce handle. I wasn't surprised in the least the effort failed. My actual goal was to maintain the maximum exposure wearing the Tyvek coveralls so didn't want to do anything which comprised that such as going under the tarp or making the firecraft easier. What a mess. I should hike back there as left everything in place. Used the pocket rocket under the tarp.

Firecraft failure. Got no shame admitting to it either and undoubtedly will fail again in the future. On a more serious note in such conditions when yea got a tarp, bivy and woobie the effort isn't worth it. Best to just wait the weather out IMHO.

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So how did it work out. Well the Tyvek got dirty for sure. The few thorns I encountered for the most part just brushed off. The same goes for all the sapling underbrush. Not really a problem. It wasn't hard to go up or down hills with either. My feet were dry until I forded that flood water (on the video). So the pants wicked that water up my legs. The shoulders got sweated up as it's hard for any fabric to breath when basically covered in water all the time. The rain never let up for the entire outing. However I was warm and comfortable. It was a fantastic wind break and preformed very well as rain gear. Remember I was just wearing just a cotton shirt, pants and socks during cold November rain. It worked out rather well.

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Walking around the camp at night in the suit cuz I can!

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I washed the suit and will see how it works during a winter storm next. Never actually washed a tyvek suit before however it held up good in the washing machine. Buying another one for my kit! Here is a video of the madness.


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I've heard some call them IM suits during the snowy months. IM = Invisible Man.

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Asymetryczna wrote:
I've heard some call them IM suits during the snowy months. IM = Invisible Man.


As soon as the snow move in you know I will be testing that!

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Great write up!

I use tyvek clothing a lot in work environments. They are useful for a variety of purposes and I do keep several in my emergency stash.

I have never tried to wash them and have viewed them as simply disposable. I keep some in my "NBC" kit along with foul weather gear.

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I enjoy your posts with their numerous great pictures and narrative. Your sharing is much appreciated and always a great read.

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They also hold some of the spray paints well. A man could create patterns and colors that confuse the eye into seeing something other than the shape of a man, if he could be still. This might displease your Realtree friends.

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Woods Walker wrote:
Asymetryczna wrote:
I've heard some call them IM suits during the snowy months. IM = Invisible Man.

As soon as the snow move in you know I will be testing that!

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They also hold some of the spray paints well. A man could create patterns and colors that confuse the eye ...

Screw that, invisibility cloak or GTFO. Another great post and out-of-the-box thinking, Woods. :clap:

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Asymetryczna wrote:
They also hold some of the spray paints well. A man could create patterns and colors that confuse the eye into seeing something other than the shape of a man, if he could be still. This might displease your Realtree friends.


Hmm... I wonder how Tyvek would do when soaked in some Rit Dye??

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They also hold some of the spray paints well. A man could create patterns and colors that confuse the eye into seeing something other than the shape of a man, if he could be still. This might displease your Realtree friends.


Hmm... I wonder how Tyvek would do when soaked in some Rit Dye??

Won't take at all. This comes up on Backpackinglight every once in a while. Think the only thing other than spray paint that works well is acrylic ink.


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They sell raincoats made out of Tyvek at Walmart. Not nearly that cheap though. Tyvek is not as good as Goretex but very functional.

A Tyvek suit as backup clothes in case your clothes get saturated is a pretty sound idea. It would be nice if the suits came in colors other than white.

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Did this years ago winter camping in Maine. The ones we had lasted maybe 5 days in the woods before they were pretty shredded. But during that time they worked pretty well.

if you get a rip or tear you can patch it with duct tape too!!


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I modded a suit several sizes too large into a long overwhite parka. Nice thing about tyvek is you can do most mods with tyvek tape, no sewing required. I used most of one leg to expand the hood to fit over winter hoods.
Since all "seams" are "taped" you don't even have to worry about sealing them when you are done :clap:

I've wondered about wearing a tyvek suit under a more durable layer (for instance, baselayer->tyvek suit->nomex coveralls) not sure how great having a waterlogged layer over the moisture barrier would be, but it might keep your base layers a little drier.

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If they were camo, i'd consider it. But if I need the BOB, it's highly likely that armed people will be a threat, so I aint wearing something white


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If they were camo, i'd consider it. But if I need the BOB, it's highly likely that armed people will be a threat, so I aint wearing something white


too lazy to dig up a US source, but they are out there:

http://www.sba.co.uk/product/tyvek-protech-classic-type-5-6-disposable-coveralls-green-s621001

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If they were camo, i'd consider it. But if I need the BOB, it's highly likely that armed people will be a threat, so I aint wearing something white


I should take a photo of me wearing this in the winter woods. Wonder how it will looks. Going to do that ASAP.

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https://www.amazon.com/Tyvek-Disposable ... ralls&th=1


Seems like great snow camo.

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white stands out really nice on a background of trees. best have grey/black streaks across it. i"ve worn tyvek actually working, altho it was 30 years ago and you soon sweat your butt off inside such suits. While tougher than paper, they do tear fairly easily if caught on something sharp-cornered and they are noisy. You can help the noise factor by washing and tumble-drying them, with the dryer set on "fragile".


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Tyvek has long been a popular shelter and poncho material in the ultralight community. It is cheap plentiful and easy to work with. We like to get large sections of housewrap on the cheap. You can buy Retail quality Dri Duck Tyvek rain suits from Frogg Toggs in handy earth tone colors like tan and green.

A word of caution, House wrap Tyvek is incredibly noisy. So we often spend hours wrinkling it by hand and running it through the washing machine, and then in the dryer on very low heat with a pair of old tennis shoes to soften it up.

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All the fucking snow melted! LOL! Once that changes will take those photos.

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Very interesting idea... How loud was it?

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Always good to see a Woods Walker post!

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Tyvek has long been a popular shelter and poncho material in the ultralight community. It is cheap plentiful and easy to work with. We like to get large sections of housewrap on the cheap. You can buy Retail quality Dri Duck Tyvek rain suits from Frogg Toggs in handy earth tone colors like tan and green.

Just poked my head in at these - I always carry a no-name Walmart poncho in my backpack but I think these might replace it!

Also I noticed they offered custom logos on orders of 25 or more - ZS group buy potential?

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Very interesting idea... How loud was it?


Probably about as loud as Gortex ECWS but seemed less so after a trip through the wash.

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