"Walking Dead" Cable Series

[RickOShea]

[Cherokee John]

So y'all are trying to tell me TV is a lie?

The horror, the horror.....*

*Stolen from "Apocalypse Now" which was stolen from Joseph Conrad's "Heart of Darkness".

It's a vicious cycle.

Well if you want to get technical most western fiction in any form comes from the Greeks. So nothing new has been written since Thespis 534 BC. I don't let it bother me. Gilgamesh had zombies too and that was way back in the 13th century B.C. and the Greeks stole from the Persians, Egyptians and ancient Sumarians.

It's the collective conscious of humans and our art.

(A character in my book uses an Algonquin warclub so I'm going to use this argument with Dogsbane when he sues me. )

[procyon]

If I was Carol, I would let Lizzie live and just leave her. Executing Lizzie puts a mental burden on Carol and gives Lizzie an easy way out.

Never happen.
In the show (at this point) Carol doesn't leave problems for others.
Carol doesn't worry about the mental burden, just doing what has to be done.

Yes, Tyreese forgave Carol, but he just saw Carol put down an 11 year old girl and her sort of surrogate daughter. That is a living hell that Carol will carry for years.

On the 'Death by Tyreese', I agree. Carol was looking for a way out.
But I only think that part of Tyreese's reason for letting her live was that she would suffer more alive than she would from his revenge.
The other part was covered in the conversation before Carol took Lizzie for a walk.
Where they discussed Tyreese leaving with Judith alone and Carol would stays with Lizzie.
Carol told him that he and Judith wouldn't make it alone. And Tyreese knew it.
So if he kills Carol, he has at the least doomed Judith with the same shot - and he can see how dooming a child by your actions has affected Carol.
Nope - he didn't want to let her out of that pain, because it would fall on his shoulders shortly after.

[SksScout]

Nice! You can't stop the signal...

[dogbane]

(A character in my book uses an Algonquin warclub so I'm going to use this argument with Dogsbane when he sues me. )

I'm not the litigious type, however, if you have a zombie tornado, you'll hear from my lawyers.

(War clubs are too cool not to share. I can't imagine the ZPAW without some nicely carved head-bashers.)

King Philip's War Club:

[RickOShea]

Lew is 46 and Norman is 45.......musta been all the moustache wax.

[RickOShea]

[Hoipoloi]

How irresponsible was that to not close the fence when they left?
They were fortunate that it was already closed when they arrived and probably saved a lot of clearing up before staying there. Not a care or thought for those that may want to use that house after them

[ineffableone]

How irresponsible was that to not close the fence when they left?
They were fortunate that it was already closed when they arrived and probably saved a lot of clearing up before staying there. Not a care or thought for those that may want to use that house after them

I have to say I thought the same thing when I saw the episode too. But sort of gave them the pass, considering what they just went through emotionally. Can't really expect them to be overly thoughtful and considerate at that sort of time.

[Browning 35]

Daryl and Beth were supposed to have a first kiss while drinking moonshine, Daryl ruined it with pigs feet breath

[Manimal2878]

Anyone else face/palm on the "Of Mice and Men" moment? Lizzie/Lenny? Look at the bunnies/flowers? One round to the back of the head. Yeah, that's been done before.

Never go to Tvtropes.com. There is literally no story or plot device that hasn't been done a dozen times over some where.

[Manimal2878]

Meh, everything had been done over and over again, ad nauseam.

I'll rewatch a movie sometimes with the "Director's commentary" turned on. You always hear stuff like "here's the Jaws moment in our movie, where our protagonist finally gets a good look at his nemesis". Or, "Here's our Highlander moment where our Hero just strides through the battlefield looking for the biggest, baddest foe to fight". Joss Weedon's commentary on The Avengers was almost a constant stream of how he took "this scene" from "this movie", and so on.

Stories are meant to be same thing over and over again, that's actually kind of the point of them. Before writing that's how you shared history and culture; by telling the same stories over and over around a campfire. How many of us have heard somebody say, "No you tell it, you tell it better" in reference to a joke or story that everybody already knows?


I remember coming across a book once called "The 14 Plots" or something like that. The idea being there are only 14 different core stories everything else that makes a story seem new is just being dressing and story teller flair layered on top.

This is what archetypes are all about.

I took a movie history class once. There are some scenes, like you say that are in every movie and the directors and people into it know it consciously, but the rest of us know it too, because we've seen it, but we just don't realize it. Find Battleship Potemkin... After watching it think about how many movies use a baby stroller in peril as a plot device. I bet most of us at this point if we see a stroller on the screen we would start to get a certain psychological response before the movie or show even starts to do anything with it and it's because it's almost like a shared memory that something bad is going to happen.

Those of us, young people or the illiterate, had a nice introduction to the concept of putting down a friend that doesn't understand they did wrong. Those of us who recognized the mice and men parallel should have been filled with dread knowing what was coming as soon as they recognized it.

[Bubba Enfield]

How irresponsible was that to not close the fence when they left?
They were fortunate that it was already closed when they arrived and probably saved a lot of clearing up before staying there. Not a care or thought for those that may want to use that house after them

I have to say I thought the same thing when I saw the episode too. But sort of gave them the pass, considering what they just went through emotionally. Can't really expect them to be overly thoughtful and considerate at that sort of time.

I noticed it too, but I thought it looked like she deliberately tossed the fencepost wide, as opposed to just forgetting. It was like she'd rather have the place filled with walkers than have some other group unknowingly take refuge in a place so chock-full of bad juju.

I loved Tyrese's line "The whole world's haunted now."

[Evan the Diplomat]

How irresponsible was that to not close the fence when they left?
They were fortunate that it was already closed when they arrived and probably saved a lot of clearing up before staying there. Not a care or thought for those that may want to use that house after them

I have to say I thought the same thing when I saw the episode too. But sort of gave them the pass, considering what they just went through emotionally. Can't really expect them to be overly thoughtful and considerate at that sort of time.

I noticed it too, but I thought it looked like she deliberately tossed the fencepost wide, as opposed to just forgetting. It was like she'd rather have the place filled with walkers than have some other group unknowingly take refuge in a place so chock-full of bad juju.

I loved Tyrese's line "The whole world's haunted now."

Carol leaving the fence open was the same as Beth and Daryl burning down the moon shiners house. Just trying to erase a bad memory.

[Softscrubb]

My money is on Terminus being a cannibalism center.... good hunters wait for their food to come to them...

[RickOShea]

Well, if anyone is interested, here's a screenshot of "Terminus" from one of the foreign promos:



http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af2 ... -promo.jpg

[Son of Jord]

Mary scares me.



......and WTF is with people carrying big packs by one f-ing shoulder strap?

[ausher]

My wife who never read the comics or know who the hunters are thinks terminus is a bunch of cannibals.


When i saw the bbq grill that looks long enough for a body and animal meat is scarce what else the people of terminus could they be???

[ineffableone]

OK some of them have arrived at Terminus and there is no guards, and lots of gardens, and so far just one person. WTF?

Seems really fishy to me, a bit too good to be true. Especially this far into Zpaw for there to be no sentries guarding the place.

Yep that BBQ screams cannibals. Though that could be miss direction too.


Also interesting hearing Joe's telling of the encounter with Rick. I have to say I really don't like Daryl with Joe and crew. They are not a good influence on him.

[ausher]

Also interesting hearing Joe's telling of the encounter with Rick. I have to say I really don't like Daryl with Joe and crew. They are not a good influence on him.

I hope Daryl didn't give up on beth and looks like Rick pissed off another leader...

[Maverick299]

How did the great Daryl let not one, but two people get within a foot of him without him noticing?

[ineffableone]

Also interesting hearing Joe's telling of the encounter with Rick. I have to say I really don't like Daryl with Joe and crew. They are not a good influence on him.

I hope Daryl didn't give up on beth and looks like Rick pissed off another leader...

Yep, just wait till he gets to Terminus, he will probably piss the leader off there too, he seems good at pissing off other leaders.

[RickOShea]

[Browning 35]

Four seasons into the ZPaw and we're just seeing a super-long Mosin bayonet take a zed in the throat now? All I can say is finally.

Also...don't lie to Jeff Kober/'Joe' and try to frame Daryl with a dead rabbit or you'll end up beaten to death in a ditch with an arrow jammed in the eye.