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 Post subject: Z Nation on Syfy
PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:21 pm 
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Looks like Syfy has thrown it's hat in the ring with Z Nation. http://www.syfy.com/znation

I don't know, has Asylum studios stink all over it but I'll give it a watch.

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 Post subject: Re: Z Nation on Syfy
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yeah saw a preview for that one. Hopes are not up high for it, SyFy seems to have a pretty low success rate with TV shows. They have the occasional winner (BSG, Defiance) but this doesn't look to be one of them. I am a little excited for the "Ascension" (http://www.syfy.com/ascension) mini-series though.

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 Post subject: Re: Z Nation on Syfy
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They have some good actors in the mix including Harold Perrineau from 28Weeks Later the the tv prison drama OZ.

The trailer has an odd patina / filter that made me think I was watching a video game.

Lastly it looks like both Walking Dead and ZNation are both using a quest/cure plot.

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The first episode of Z Nation will be on in under 20 minutes.

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 Post subject: Re: Z Nation on Syfy
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I liked it. Fast pace with some badly needed wit and humor compared to that other series.

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 Post subject: Re: Z Nation on Syfy
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Ok, so I just watched it online....... I didn't have high hopes going in, but it turned out alright. There were some entertaining moments, a diverse group of characters, and some of that special SyFy flair. All in all I've watched a hell of a lot worse shows, I think the acting will probably get better but, hey, it's a SyFy show.

I'll say watch it.

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 Post subject: Re: Z Nation on Syfy
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I was skeptical but it was pretty good.


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I'm sad Link died in this episode. The rest are unknowns, which could be a good thing.

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I'm sad Link died in this episode. The rest are unknowns, which could be a good thing.

I guess Harold Perrineau had other acting commitments, but he may appear in flashbacks in other episodes.

I think Tom Everett Scott, the drummer in "That Thing You Do", would take umbrage at being called an unknown.

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I think Tom Everett Scott, the drummer in "That Thing You Do", would take umbrage at being called an unknown.


I take it that's a band?

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 Post subject: Re: Z Nation on Syfy
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Evan the Diplomat wrote:
I think Tom Everett Scott, the drummer in "That Thing You Do", would take umbrage at being called an unknown.


I take it that's a band?

It was Tom Hanks feature film directorial debut.
Had that catchy tune.

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Just watched the first episode on demand and it wasn't as bad as I'd expected. Of course, I expected it to be really, really bad. But it was definitely better than most zombie movies.

Tom Everett Scott - the guy from "That Thing You Do" - had me scratching my head there for a little while. I kept looking at him and wondering why Robert Hays - the guy from the "Airplane!" movies - was in a TV zombie show. Then it clicked...

All in all, not too bad.

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 Post subject: Re: Z Nation on Syfy
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Surprised as well. I was amazed that 80% of the time they actually did what I was yelling from the couch. "Grab that gun!" "Check for more ammo!" You know, the typical stuff you yell at zombie shows. I will give this one a shot for sure.

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 Post subject: Re: Z Nation on Syfy
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How did the baby turn? I didn't see anything get near it.


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We watched the first episode and were also surprised. There were still definitely elements of SyFy there but it was much better than we expected. We'll probably keep watching, at least for awhile. I was kinda hoping Perrineau would look up and say, "W-Walt?", you know, for old times' sake.

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 Post subject: Re: Z Nation on Syfy
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jor-el wrote:
I'm sad Link died in this episode. The rest are unknowns, which could be a good thing.


He had to go back to the island...

I liked the show, my wife not so much, so we shall see if it makes it into our show rotation. I will say for SyFy, I was impressed and I'm glad that they are not pushing another Ghost Hunter type show. There is some potential there, I enjoyed watching Tom Everett Scott in "Saved" but that was only a one season show, and it's been years since that was on.


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 Post subject: Re: Z Nation on Syfy
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How did the baby turn? I didn't see anything get near it.


From blood splatter. Though, they didn't show any blood on the baby's face, clothes, or car seat/carrier. So, one drop of infected blood flew through the air and made contact with mucus membrane in the eyes or nose. As of this point they haven't really talked about the infection or how it's transferred. In some fiction this type of infection is possible, in others it isn't.


I just finished watching the first episode. It was terrible! The plot points are too contrived.

I may watch it because I'm fond of the subject material, but I'm not looking forward to the show insulting my intelligence every step along the way (assuming the rest are like the first episode).

The quality of the zombie interactions are very much on par with some of the worst zombie movies available. The practical special effects are fine, and the dialog is better than a lot of the rest of the show.


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From blood splatter. Though, they didn't show any blood on the baby's face, clothes, or car seat/carrier. So, one drop of infected blood flew through the air and made contact with mucus membrane in the eyes or nose. As of this point they haven't really talked about the infection or how it's transferred. In some fiction this type of infection is possible, in others it isn't.


So the main character takes out a dozen zombies with a small hammer and gets soaked in zombie blood, but it's the baby 15 feet away with the carrier pointed away from the massacre that gets hit? :shock:


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So the main character takes out a dozen zombies with a small hammer and gets soaked in zombie blood, but it's the baby 15 feet away with the carrier pointed away from the massacre that gets hit? :shock:


Gets turned, then get's speed, strength, reflexes, sensory perception, and coordination all beyond what a baby would be capable of. The zombie baby was more dangerous than any of the adult zombies. At that age a human child doesn't even have object permanence, so the concept of "hiding" would be impossible for its' brain to comprehend.

It's true that adult humans are often depicted in zombie fiction as capable of feats requiring more than human strength. But, most of this can be explained away with the human body's natural protection of joints and ligaments by preventing muscles from straining what the rest of the body is capable of. In a lot of zombie lore the very real notion of a zombie breaking through something (wall, or even glass), that a you or I may have trouble with is something that can scientifically be explained away. However, pretty much everything the show did with the baby was retarded.

The more I think about how stupid everything about the baby was the less interested I am in trying to watch any more of the show.


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Agreed; baby scene kinda ridiculous. Further ridiculous for me would be that a Delta operator experienced not only in modern warfare, but certainly in zombie killin'(given how long he'd survived and somehow kept a KAC PDW fed and maintained), would make such massive tactical blunders while searching for said zombie baby. Seriously, laying down to look under a car? It's a zombie, let it come to you, don't go looking for that bitch.


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SNIP I'm not looking forward to the show insulting my intelligence every step along the way (assuming the rest are like the first episode).

Absent a metaphor on the human condition, any movie about zombies is an insult to your intelligence. The question to ask is was I entertained or engaged for 52 minutes.

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zero11010 wrote:
SNIP I'm not looking forward to the show insulting my intelligence every step along the way (assuming the rest are like the first episode).

Absent a metaphor on the human condition, any movie about zombies is an insult to your intelligence. The question to ask is was I entertained or engaged for 52 minutes.


Hey I thought the baby scene was absolutely the dumbest thing I have seen in a zombie show..... But I'll look past it because this was made by the people who did "sharkanado" sooooooo.... Sit back, relax, and enjoy a zombie show with some flair!

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SJNoftz wrote:
Agreed; baby scene kinda ridiculous. Further ridiculous for me would be that a Delta operator experienced not only in modern warfare, but certainly in zombie killin'(given how long he'd survived and somehow kept a KAC PDW fed and maintained), would make such massive tactical blunders while searching for said zombie baby. Seriously, laying down to look under a car? It's a zombie, let it come to you, don't go looking for that bitch.


The scene that was worse for me was at the beginning. The one with the soldier who was supposed to guard the gate. He sees a dozen zombies pushing at the gate and it's about to come off the hinges. He has his rifle and at least two more mags. Yet he sits there and waits for the zombies to break the gate and rush him. :roll:


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SJNoftz wrote:
Agreed; baby scene kinda ridiculous. Further ridiculous for me would be that a Delta operator experienced not only in modern warfare, but certainly in zombie killin'(given how long he'd survived and somehow kept a KAC PDW fed and maintained), would make such massive tactical blunders while searching for said zombie baby. Seriously, laying down to look under a car? It's a zombie, let it come to you, don't go looking for that bitch.


The scene that was worse for me was at the beginning. The one with the soldier who was supposed to guard the gate. He sees a dozen zombies pushing at the gate and it's about to come off the hinges. He has his rifle and at least two more mags. Yet he sits there and waits for the zombies to break the gate and rush him. :roll:


RIGHT?! No taking out the most aggressive Zs while they pushed at the bars? No falling back to a position further from the gate? They were stationary targets that might as well have been in a shooting gallery, anyone with basic training could be lining up and knocking down targets with ease, let alone a special operations veteran(assuming he was part of HP's Delta team) that probably fires thousands of rounds in training to hone his trade. I call malarkey on that.


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