So I started writing on the subject of cops and uniforms. But strayed into the "after all the uniforms are gone" territory. And wrote some on the use of camo. Which I think is sorely underrated in the prepper community. And many falsehoods seem to proliferate. I've been reading a lot of Selco too. So if I come off a little grizzled. That's why. lol.:
I also think if we were in a continental wide or world wide PAW that eventually cops would become a target and eventually remove their uniforms. They'll be targets - one for their gear. And two, I'm sure quite a few criminals would don whatever uniforms they can. And take advantage. MEaning posing as cops to take advantage. I can see the pendulum swing in the direction of not knowing who to trust. And cops removing their uniforms. As it no longer conveys help. Or even necessarily the good guys. In the end I don't think it will help the police officer or anyone else to don uniforms. And they're uniforms will be so taken advantage of no one will trust them. And they (meaning their uniforms) will become meaningless.
This may not be the case in a small tight knit community. And especially if the LEO can afford to stay within the communities borders and doesn't have to venture out. But I'd guess a venture out sooner or later would have to happen.
And you'd be best dressed in camo - rather than a uniform. So that you can hide in plain sight in a rural area (if a rural area is where your at - it should be. As we've discussed in this thread previously. Cities are no place to be in a PAW.). And for those grey men out there. At this point your carrying the most sought after tool in the world - a long gun. There's no hiding that. Let me repeat. There is no hiding a long gun. You can't break or fold it down and carry it in your backpack. Because you need it at a moments notice. And if you don't have a long gun. You better find one. Because if any one rule existed in firearms it would be that long guns are greater than pistols. Period. Not that pistols are useless. Your just not gonna get into a gunfight in a rural area with pistol that will beat a rifle. The distances are just to great. And the rifle calibers just to lethal.
So you're carrying it for everyone to see from far away. And you can see a man with a long gun from far away. Even without optics. So you might as well go combat ready. And if you don't think camo works. Ask a sniper. I can hide within feet of you with the proper camo. And from several tens of yards with even "decent" camo. I've literally stumbled across guys in camo before. Simply because they were so well hidden. ANd if you think different colors of earth tones is going to work - your wrong. And I think most cops know this. Especially if given a military background.
Think bowhunter. They might stand out in downtown LA. But in the woods they disappear with a decent dose of camo. (For those that don't know. Bowhunters are the ones that most use camo during hunting. They have to sneak up close to get a good shot.) So camo is essential. I have a camo oversuit that's made of 3d leaves (like a poor mans ghillie suit - overalls and a head cover with eye cut outs - I own because I had to use it for PI work. And it's very hasty and packs in a small footprint. PRobably the size but not the weight of a small tent. But it goes on in less than a minute. And your fully camo. That I've used to disappear in the woods within the 1 minute it takes to don. I've had cars almost literally drive over me. Because they couldn't see me. At night and during the day. I'm not saying it's the super wonderful technicolor dreamcoat that makes you literally disappear. But for the sake of someone taking your ass in an ambush. You might as well wear bells if your not wearing camo clothing, camo facepaint and everything else on you matching that camo. Even if you mix camo. Your going to stick out. If you've had any training in the military's more specialized forces you know how to spot this. It just sticks out. Like a sore thumb. And can be seen from far away.
So if you don't have it on already. Even decent camo clothing and camo face paint can work wonders. I've been attacked in exercises from less than a 100 yards. By men in nothing more than proper camo clothing and face paint. And you can't tell there there except for their muzzle flash.
And I'm not even talking about a slow stalk from a sniper in a real ghillie suit. Ghillie suits are heavy, cumbersome and difficult to move in. Effective. But difficult to live in. I'm talking same camo clothing, same camo face paint, same camo paint on your firearms and other items viewable. And it doesn't have to cost a lot. In fact in most of America good old Woodland will do. And it's the cheapest camo out there. Harder to find more modern items in that color. But even multicam or commercial patterns can be found for cheap. I personally stick to multicam. As you can find EVERYTHING in that camo pattern. Not so for woodland or commercial camos. Another reason I carry the hasty ghillie suit. Even if my on body camo is good. The suit helps seal that extra couple hundred yards. That may save your life by being able to remain hidden.
I see this argument so many times on prepping forums. "I'm going to wear carharts so I don't stick out." "I use various earth tones to camoflauge me. You can't even tell I'm there from a few hundred feet away. It's really more about movement." Movement is important. But these strategies will not work. Wear earth tones and I and any other military trained (or even observant person) will see you far in advance of your coming. WAY to many people on here and other forums think earth tones are going to save them in the mountains in a PAW full of bad guys. They aren't. They're going to stick out like a sore thumb. And they will pay for it. Your not sneaking up on a deer. Your sneaking up on or trying to go unnoticed by - man. That's a big difference. Men will see you. Trust me. Hunters will see you. Anyone who's ever been in the military will see you. That's a lot of people.
Most people are good natured. And kind people. I've been reading a lot of Selco. And I was in the MArine Corps in a sniper platoon. So A) I know what I'm talking about. But B) it may come across hard cause reading Selco makes you hard. LOL!
But being kind and helping people out is going to be the most tricky thing in the world during a true PAW. A true breakdown of our continent. It may not even be worth it. Depending on the situation and your control of it. It's best to stay hidden. Observe what's going on around you. And make the safest decisions for you and your family or compatriots can. I'm a helper by nature. And I'd like to expand my community with as many valuable members as possible. But determining someone's value or "values" is hard to do.
I think what most people don't realize is that the good aren't going to necessarily inherit the earth. Bad people are going to prevail. (There is always going to be a need to hide during a PAW.) Because they can take advantage of others good nature. And most people are good natured. What we take for granted now. Is very different in a PAW. In a PAW the only thing you can take for granted is death. And maybe that's where like minds exist. Someplace between a LEO, a military person and a Selco. It might as well be guerilla warfare. Where your hiding from people you don't know are bad guys. They're not wearing uniforms or little stickers that say I'm the bad buy. They are just gonna be bad guys. Or girls. Or...?
How do you tell the difference? By keeping your distance. Until they prove they aren't out to kill you. How do you do that? By being able to observe. And the only way you can do that is with camo. Cover and concealment. If you don't know the difference. Train with someone that does. Because in the end they aren't coming for all your neat gear. There coming because your carrying the one most sought after object in a war - and that's a long gun. Your not gonna hide it. So you might as well take along any other combat related item that might help you. Cause wearing a Carhartt jacket isn't going to hide the fact that your carrying an M16. And where's your mags and your ammo? Where are those hidden? And why are you hiding them? Your carrying around an M16 which might as well be a big flag that says "I have stuff worth killing me over.". For these simple facts - grey man does not work for me in a PAW. Yes. It will work in a refugee type scenario. Where maybe everyone is walking to the same border or tent city or what have you. Or your trying to get out of a city. And chaos reigns and everyone is out for everyone elses stuff. But again, if you've got stuff worth killing you over the first thing better be a gun. That's what's going to help you survive after the tent city and after the border crossing. Or wherever you end up - outside of cities. Because cities are no place to be in a PAW. Not to mention that gun might help you get out of the city.
So wear good camo. Train with it. Go hike out to a half mile of your buddy. And try to walk or crawl to where he is. And see if he can see you. You'll be surprised how quickly you become apparent.
Don't worry about grey man. If you think there's a chance that this is going to become a PAW. Because if it does. That means your in the woods. And you need a long gun to survive this. And there's no hiding a long gun. But you can hide it and yourself with camo. The right way. Yes you can hide it under your big Carhartt jacket. But then you won't be hidden in the woods. You'll stand out like a big tan deer. Know how many deer got found and killed last year by man? a lot.
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why would we let them have ideas?" Josef Stalin