.22 pistol for bugging out? Or just rifle

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.22 pistol for bugging out? Or just rifle

Post by specops » Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:09 am

Would you take a .22 pistol for bugging out with a main pistol as well as a .22 rifle? I've been thinking about getting a .22 pistol for bugging out along with my g19, s&w mp 15-22, 12ga, and MBR. Should I get a revolver (ruger single six) or a semi auto (1911-22, mp 22) or a .22 upper for my glock.

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Post by MaconCJ7 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:24 pm

I would get a Ruger MkIII. Accurate and reliable (as reliable as the ammunition anyway). They also have the 22/45 which is a copy of the 1911 grip if that's what you're into. I have no experience with them, so you'll need to do your own research.
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Post by Gregory Merlon » Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:53 pm

Depends on your situation, I think.

How many people are bugging out with to help carry that load, and are you going by foot, or vehicle?

Five guns plus accompanying ammunition would be pretty rough for one person to lug around, let alone other survival supplies. But if you have the means of easily transporting it, by all means.

As far as the exact choice of the options you presented, that would depend greatly on your intended use (trainer for your centerfire handgun, discreet game-getter, etc...)
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Post by maldon007 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:00 pm

Depends hugely on why/when/where/how you are bugging out, and for how long. For most of the realistic reasons I can think of that I might bug out, a CC defensive pistol would be all would take firearm wise... So what are the circumstances you are thinking of?
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Post by specops » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:20 pm

Well I don't plan to bug in at all. I would be bugging out to Colorado/black hills. I could drive a majority of the way if possible, if not i have a place in eastern South Dakota. But i wouldnt be coming back if it was a serious thing( emp, disease, etc). I probably wouldnt make human contact for a long time either. I work out with my bob often so I can carry a lot with it. But my questions would be like if I was out hunting with a large caliber rifle would I have a defensive pistol on me or a .22 pistol or my .22 rifle on my back?

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Post by Sikiguya » Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:14 pm

Gonna go with rifle 4 versatility

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Post by specops » Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:24 pm

Sikiguya wrote:Gonna go with rifle 4 versatility

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So you would hunt with your main rifle then just have the .22 rifle on a sling for small game? Would you carry you regular defense side arm as well then?

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Post by fred.greek » Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:46 pm

If I had to leave, never to be able to return, with just one weapon and "x" pounds of ammo, it would be a .22 LR pistol.

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Post by Belair56 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:39 am

Good Luck finding .22lr now.

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Belair56 wrote:Good Luck finding .22lr now.
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Post by Gregory Merlon » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:03 pm

In this case, between the .22 rifle and the .22 pistol, I'd probably go with a good scoped .22 target pistol (like a Ruger Mk II or a Browning Buckmark, etc). Another long gun on foot would be kind of bulky and unwieldy to me if I didn't have to carry it. But depending on the social circumstances at the time, a full size service pistol might be better too, if actual combat could reasonably be expected.
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Post by Slugg » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:49 am

I wouldn't think 2 pistols is too much to take. I'm not sure what a .22lr pistol can do that a rifle can't, but who knows. If your already carrying a "normal SD sidearm", I don't see it's benefit. But if you do see a benefit and it's greater than the weight of that handgun, then go ahead and tote it. I went is a Chiappa 1911-22 because we already have 1911 and have the holsters already. Along with it being a cheaper alternative for when ammo gets scarce. A single six would be great if you were carrying one in .357 and one in .22. Just make sure you get different grips that are notably different so you don't get confused.
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Post by mr.trooper » Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:20 pm

One of the shorter barreled Ruger MKIIIs with a micro red dot would be awesome for a good many things.

I like the P22 as well, but you wold need one of those goody bridge mounts for any kind of optic... and the trigger sucks for making accurate shots with the irons.
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Post by Kutter_0311 » Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:23 pm

I have a Ruger Mk II and 10/22 in my battery, along with a pair of AK's and G35's.

I'm not carrying all this myself, and my family is not entirely foot-mobile.

If I were to go it alone (or go ahead to reconnoiter an area alone), I would likely OC the AK and Mk II, and CC the G35.
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Post by UndeadInfidel » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:28 pm

mr.trooper wrote:One of the shorter barreled Ruger MKIIIs with a micro red dot would be awesome for a good many things.

I like the P22 as well, but you wold need one of those goody bridge mounts for any kind of optic... and the trigger sucks for making accurate shots with the irons.
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Post by Mikeyboy » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:08 pm

If you are already bringing a .22lr rifle for possible small game hunting post SHTF, I think bringing a .22 pistol to do the same thing is overkill if you are traveling alone. One option you did mention, the Glock .22lr slide conversion would be a good idea, because if you run out of 9mm ammo for your Glock 19, you can switch the slides and use your .22 ammo so you can still use your pistol. The Glock conversion slide will take up minimal space and weight compared to a 1911-22 or an M&P 22 and honestly hunting small game with those pistol would be real tough. If you are traveling in a group, the .22 pistol would make more sense over the conversion slide. SHTF you have the Glock 19 while the wife or girlfriend has the M&P .22

One option though with traveling alone with that many guns would be a long barreled .22 pistol INSTEAD of a .22 rifle for hunting. A Ruger single six would be excellent because you can use both .22lr and .22mag. If you have a MBR, a Shotgun, and a M&P 15-22 how are you going to carry them all?

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Post by Al Lipscomb » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:34 pm

I would second the idea of the .22 handgun in place of the .22 rifle. A good .22 rim fire revolver can be very useful for small game hunting. The savings in size and weight will be noticed if you have to go anywhere on foot.
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Post by Kelvar » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:07 pm

specops wrote:Well I don't plan to bug in at all. I would be bugging out to Colorado/black hills. I could drive a majority of the way if possible, if not i have a place in eastern South Dakota. But i wouldnt be coming back if it was a serious thing( emp, disease, etc). I probably wouldnt make human contact for a long time either. I work out with my bob often so I can carry a lot with it. But my questions would be like if I was out hunting with a large caliber rifle would I have a defensive pistol on me or a .22 pistol or my .22 rifle on my back?
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Finally, you say that you plan to bug out to the hills and "wouldn't make human contact for a long time." Please take this with all due respect, but I'd expect someone with those skills to know enough about survival to decide for himself whether he needs a .22 pistol. Perhaps you should try a mock bug out and see how it goes? The best way to learn is by doing, but by being safe in the process. Take a friend, take a cell phone and make sure someone knows where you're going and when you plan to return.

To address the question, though, I agree with maldon007--for most bug out situations, a regular CC pistol (assuming it is legal where you live and that you have the proper license) and a couple of spare magazines should be more than enough. Even in a full blown zombie apocalypse, the most I'd ever take would be a rifle, chest rig w/ spare mags and a pistol w/ spare mags. I'd use the rest of that weight for important things like critical tools and the even more critical water and food.

If you're familiar with the distinction between a BOB and an INCH ("I'm Never Coming Home"), then I'd say no to the .22 pistol for the BOB, but yes for the INCH.
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Post by Dawgboy » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:05 pm

I'll be honest, if I am bugging out alone, and on foot, my Ruger Mark III is the only gun going with me unless its WROL. Even then, read about what happened to obviously armed folks in New Orleans in the Katrina aftermath...

My reasoning on why only the .22 is as such: Easily concealable, can carry a LOT of ammo for it, and have 6 mags ready to go, will drop most small game from "mean ole dogs" on down to a pigeon without destroying dinner, and maybe enough of a deterrent if i *really* needed to deter someone... Certainly not first choice for that... But I think that would be the least likely need for it in a standard Bugout for fire/earthquake in my AO.

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Post by missouri dave » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:44 pm

If the question is a 22 rifle and a 22 pistol, as well as centerfire pistol and rifle, while bugging out on foot the answer is no. Can't see the point in duplication. While bugging out in a vehicle my answer might very well be different.
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Post by Boondock » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:53 pm

For my purposes, a .22 pistol--and no other firearm--would be suitable for a bug out on foot.

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Post by smokestax » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:36 pm

thoughts on which is the best rifle vary, but as far as a .22 hand gun i would choose my ruger .22 single six with the .22 mag option....the mag is a good in between round that you wouldnt have to pack a ton of extra ammo with...just enough for those odd ball jobs that may come along. other than that a g36 and a good marlin 30-30 should be all you need.
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Re: .22 pistol for bugging out? Or just rifle

Post by mough » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:21 am

Is it just me or does it seem like the OP is bugging out with way too many firearms? 2 pistols, 2 rifles, and a shotgun seems a bit... over encumbering to me.

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